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Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:31:45 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
On Jan 31, 9:11*am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:11:36 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: ok to make it clear you believe that if anyone dies in space its best to not attempt recovery of their body? the challenger bodies and crew compartment were in deep water off the coast...... but its ok to recover gus grissoms mercury capsule that sunk so long ago in very deep water? Do you have problems with common sense? *Which is easier? *Recovering a body from the moon or one in water off the coast of FL? *Really, Bob, you need to think a bit deeper sometimes. It's clear that Bob is out of his depth. Jeff -- "the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer really look at the efforts today to recover remains from korea or second world war. why spend time and money the 2nd world war familys who knew the victims have probably mostly died of old age.... Jesus, Bob! You really are denser than osmium, aren't you? |
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Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
On Jan 31, 10:50*am, Dean wrote:
On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:31:45 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: On Jan 31, 9:11*am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:11:36 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: ok to make it clear you believe that if anyone dies in space its best to not attempt recovery of their body? the challenger bodies and crew compartment were in deep water off the coast...... but its ok to recover gus grissoms mercury capsule that sunk so long ago in very deep water? Do you have problems with common sense? *Which is easier? *Recovering a body from the moon or one in water off the coast of FL? *Really, Bob, you need to think a bit deeper sometimes. It's clear that Bob is out of his depth. Jeff -- "the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer really look at the efforts today to recover remains from korea or second world war. why spend time and money the 2nd world war familys who knew the victims have probably mostly died of old age.... Jesus, Bob! *You really are denser than osmium, aren't you? well heres a connected issue, if nasa decides a crew is doomed to die, should the crew be told? say the columbia crew, should they have been informed before re entry if nasa was certain of their dying? |
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Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
On Feb 1, 5:01*am, bob haller wrote:
On Jan 31, 10:50*am, Dean wrote: On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:31:45 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: On Jan 31, 9:11*am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:11:36 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: ok to make it clear you believe that if anyone dies in space its best to not attempt recovery of their body? the challenger bodies and crew compartment were in deep water off the coast...... but its ok to recover gus grissoms mercury capsule that sunk so long ago in very deep water? Do you have problems with common sense? *Which is easier? *Recovering a body from the moon or one in water off the coast of FL? *Really, Bob, you need to think a bit deeper sometimes. It's clear that Bob is out of his depth. Jeff -- "the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer really look at the efforts today to recover remains from korea or second world war. why spend time and money the 2nd world war familys who knew the victims have probably mostly died of old age.... Jesus, Bob! *You really are denser than osmium, aren't you? well heres a connected issue, if nasa decides a crew is doomed to die, should the crew be told? say the columbia crew, should they have been informed before re entry if nasa was certain of their dying? Should they have been told about the Phantom Works of TRW/Raytheon and Boeing testing out their nifty ABL capability of targeting an incoming LEO item, from an operationally cloaked altitude of 40,000+ feet? http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices...ips/index.html http://www.lb.boeing.com/defense-spa...N_ABL_074.html http://www.gizmag.com/boeing-airborn...missile/12567/ http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread298256/pg1 BP Deep Horizon helipad platform hole: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/0...-scene-photos/ http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/924...orm990x669.jpg |
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Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
On Friday, February 1, 2013 8:01:31 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
On Jan 31, 10:50*am, Dean wrote: On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:31:45 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: On Jan 31, 9:11*am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:11:36 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: ok to make it clear you believe that if anyone dies in space its best to not attempt recovery of their body? the challenger bodies and crew compartment were in deep water off the coast...... but its ok to recover gus grissoms mercury capsule that sunk so long ago in very deep water? Do you have problems with common sense? *Which is easier? *Recovering a body from the moon or one in water off the coast of FL? *Really, Bob, you need to think a bit deeper sometimes. It's clear that Bob is out of his depth. Jeff -- "the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer really look at the efforts today to recover remains from korea or second world war. why spend time and money the 2nd world war familys who knew the victims have probably mostly died of old age.... Jesus, Bob! *You really are denser than osmium, aren't you? well heres a connected issue, if nasa decides a crew is doomed to die, should the crew be told? say the columbia crew, should they have been informed before re entry if nasa was certain of their dying? I have no doubt that NASA would tell a crew just that. Those crews know very well the risks involved. As for Columbia, if NASA knew, do you really think they would have let them re-enter? |
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Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
On Friday, February 1, 2013 9:00:00 AM UTC-5, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 1, 5:01*am, bob haller wrote: On Jan 31, 10:50*am, Dean wrote: On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:31:45 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: On Jan 31, 9:11*am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:11:36 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: ok to make it clear you believe that if anyone dies in space its best to not attempt recovery of their body? the challenger bodies and crew compartment were in deep water off the coast...... but its ok to recover gus grissoms mercury capsule that sunk so long ago in very deep water? Do you have problems with common sense? *Which is easier? *Recovering a body from the moon or one in water off the coast of FL? *Really, Bob, you need to think a bit deeper sometimes. It's clear that Bob is out of his depth. Jeff -- "the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer really look at the efforts today to recover remains from korea or second world war. why spend time and money the 2nd world war familys who knew the victims have probably mostly died of old age.... Jesus, Bob! *You really are denser than osmium, aren't you? well heres a connected issue, if nasa decides a crew is doomed to die, should the crew be told? say the columbia crew, should they have been informed before re entry if nasa was certain of their dying? Should they have been told about the Phantom Works of TRW/Raytheon and Boeing testing out their nifty ABL capability of targeting an incoming LEO item, from an operationally cloaked altitude of 40,000+ feet? http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices...ips/index.html http://www.lb.boeing.com/defense-spa...N_ABL_074.html http://www.gizmag.com/boeing-airborn...missile/12567/ http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread298256/pg1 BP Deep Horizon helipad platform hole: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/0...-scene-photos/ http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/924...orm990x669.jpg The conspirowhacko speaks again. LOL |
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Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
On Feb 1, 6:00*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 1, 5:01*am, bob haller wrote: On Jan 31, 10:50*am, Dean wrote: On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:31:45 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: On Jan 31, 9:11*am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:11:36 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: ok to make it clear you believe that if anyone dies in space its best to not attempt recovery of their body? the challenger bodies and crew compartment were in deep water off the coast...... but its ok to recover gus grissoms mercury capsule that sunk so long ago in very deep water? Do you have problems with common sense? *Which is easier? *Recovering a body from the moon or one in water off the coast of FL? *Really, Bob, you need to think a bit deeper sometimes. It's clear that Bob is out of his depth. Jeff -- "the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer really look at the efforts today to recover remains from korea or second world war. why spend time and money the 2nd world war familys who knew the victims have probably mostly died of old age.... Jesus, Bob! *You really are denser than osmium, aren't you? well heres a connected issue, if nasa decides a crew is doomed to die, should the crew be told? say the columbia crew, should they have been informed before re entry if nasa was certain of their dying? Should they have been told about the Phantom Works of TRW/Raytheon and Boeing testing out their nifty ABL capability of targeting an incoming LEO item, from an operationally cloaked altitude of 40,000+ feet? *http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices...itary/abl/pics.... *http://www.lb.boeing.com/defense-spa...s-clips/SMF071.... *http://www.gizmag.com/boeing-airborn...missile/12567/ *http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread298256/pg1 *BP Deep Horizon helipad platform hole: *http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/0...explosion-on-t.... *http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/924...orm990x669.jpg The extra amount of thermal sensors incorporated within the underside of Columbia, of which Boeing Phantom Works always had a direct satellite link to, made for an ideal test target in order to fully verify in real time, as to the effective heating caused by their ABL. DoD contracts always require such demonstrated proof before moving on with additional R&D funding. These DoD contracts are worth billions, and to pass up an opportunity of using Columbia as representing a savings of at least 100 million, should have been a wee bit too tempting to pass up. Of course If Columbia hadn’t been previously damaged, the ABL test could have been relatively harmless. |
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Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
On Feb 1, 5:01*am, bob haller wrote:
On Jan 31, 10:50*am, Dean wrote: On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:31:45 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: On Jan 31, 9:11*am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:11:36 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: ok to make it clear you believe that if anyone dies in space its best to not attempt recovery of their body? the challenger bodies and crew compartment were in deep water off the coast...... but its ok to recover gus grissoms mercury capsule that sunk so long ago in very deep water? Do you have problems with common sense? *Which is easier? *Recovering a body from the moon or one in water off the coast of FL? *Really, Bob, you need to think a bit deeper sometimes. It's clear that Bob is out of his depth. Jeff -- "the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer really look at the efforts today to recover remains from korea or second world war. why spend time and money the 2nd world war familys who knew the victims have probably mostly died of old age.... Jesus, Bob! *You really are denser than osmium, aren't you? well heres a connected issue, if nasa decides a crew is doomed to die, should the crew be told? say the columbia crew, should they have been informed before re entry if nasa was certain of their dying? Should they have been told about the Boeing Phantom Works of TRW/ Raytheon testing out their nifty ABL capability of targeting an incoming LEO item, from an operationally cloaked altitude of 40,000+ feet? http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices...itary/abl/pics... http://www.lb.boeing.com/defense-spa...s-clips/SMF071... http://www.gizmag.com/boeing-airborn...missile/12567/ http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread298256/pg1 BP Deep Horizon helipad platform hole: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/0...explosion-on-t... http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/924...orm990x669.jpg The extra amount of thermal sensors incorporated within the underside of Columbia, of which Boeing Phantom Works always had a direct satellite link to, made for an ideal test target in order to fully verify in real time, as to the effective heating caused by their ABL. DoD contracts always require such demonstrated proof before moving on with additional R&D funding. These DoD contracts are worth billions, and to pass up an opportunity of using Columbia as representing a savings of at least 100 million to Boeing, should have been a wee bit too tempting to pass up. Of course If Columbia hadn’t been previously damaged, the ABL test could have been relatively harmless. No doubt whenever our DoD screws up, we don’t always get to see or hear about it unless it was being live covered by some media group(s) in charge of Pentagon and DoD hype, or as having been otherwise leaked. |
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Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
On Friday, February 1, 2013 9:27:53 AM UTC-5, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 1, 5:01*am, bob haller wrote: On Jan 31, 10:50*am, Dean wrote: On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:31:45 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: On Jan 31, 9:11*am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:11:36 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: ok to make it clear you believe that if anyone dies in space its best to not attempt recovery of their body? the challenger bodies and crew compartment were in deep water off the coast...... but its ok to recover gus grissoms mercury capsule that sunk so long ago in very deep water? Do you have problems with common sense? *Which is easier? *Recovering a body from the moon or one in water off the coast of FL? *Really, Bob, you need to think a bit deeper sometimes. It's clear that Bob is out of his depth. Jeff -- "the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer really look at the efforts today to recover remains from korea or second world war. why spend time and money the 2nd world war familys who knew the victims have probably mostly died of old age.... Jesus, Bob! *You really are denser than osmium, aren't you? well heres a connected issue, if nasa decides a crew is doomed to die, should the crew be told? say the columbia crew, should they have been informed before re entry if nasa was certain of their dying? Should they have been told about the Boeing Phantom Works of TRW/ Raytheon testing out their nifty ABL capability of targeting an incoming LEO item, from an operationally cloaked altitude of 40,000+ feet? http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices...itary/abl/pics... http://www.lb.boeing.com/defense-spa...s-clips/SMF071... http://www.gizmag.com/boeing-airborn...missile/12567/ http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread298256/pg1 BP Deep Horizon helipad platform hole: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/0...explosion-on-t... http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/924...orm990x669.jpg The extra amount of thermal sensors incorporated within the underside of Columbia, of which Boeing Phantom Works always had a direct satellite link to, made for an ideal test target in order to fully verify in real time, as to the effective heating caused by their ABL. DoD contracts always require such demonstrated proof before moving on with additional R&D funding. These DoD contracts are worth billions, and to pass up an opportunity of using Columbia as representing a savings of at least 100 million to Boeing, should have been a wee bit too tempting to pass up. Of course If Columbia hadn’t been previously damaged, the ABL test could have been relatively harmless. No doubt whenever our DoD screws up, we don’t always get to see or hear about it unless it was being live covered by some media group(s) in charge of Pentagon and DoD hype, or as having been otherwise leaked. Can you please speak simply without the extraneous crap? So you are claiming the ABL shot down Columbia now? |
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Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
On Feb 1, 8:40*am, Dean wrote:
On Friday, February 1, 2013 9:27:53 AM UTC-5, Brad Guth wrote: On Feb 1, 5:01*am, bob haller wrote: On Jan 31, 10:50*am, Dean wrote: On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:31:45 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: On Jan 31, 9:11*am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:11:36 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: ok to make it clear you believe that if anyone dies in space its best to not attempt recovery of their body? the challenger bodies and crew compartment were in deep water off the coast...... but its ok to recover gus grissoms mercury capsule that sunk so long ago in very deep water? Do you have problems with common sense? *Which is easier? *Recovering a body from the moon or one in water off the coast of FL? *Really, Bob, you need to think a bit deeper sometimes. It's clear that Bob is out of his depth. Jeff -- "the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer really look at the efforts today to recover remains from korea or second world war. why spend time and money the 2nd world war familys who knew the victims have probably mostly died of old age.... Jesus, Bob! *You really are denser than osmium, aren't you? well heres a connected issue, if nasa decides a crew is doomed to die, should the crew be told? say the columbia crew, should they have been informed before re entry if nasa was certain of their dying? Should they have been told about the Boeing Phantom Works of TRW/ Raytheon testing out their nifty ABL capability of targeting an incoming LEO item, from an operationally cloaked altitude of 40,000+ feet? *http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices...itary/abl/pics... *http://www.lb.boeing.com/defense-spa...s-clips/SMF071... *http://www.gizmag.com/boeing-airborn...missile/12567/ *http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread298256/pg1 *BP Deep Horizon helipad platform hole: *http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/0...explosion-on-t... *http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/924...orm990x669.jpg *The extra amount of thermal sensors incorporated within the underside of Columbia, of which Boeing Phantom Works always had a direct satellite link to, made for an ideal test target in order to fully verify in real time, as to the effective heating caused by their ABL. DoD contracts always require such demonstrated proof before moving on with additional R&D funding. *These DoD contracts are worth billions, and to pass up an opportunity of using Columbia as representing a savings of at least 100 million to Boeing, should have been a wee bit too tempting to pass up. *Of course If Columbia hadn’t been previously damaged, the ABL test could have been relatively harmless. No doubt whenever our DoD screws up, we don’t always get to see or hear about it unless it was being live covered by some media group(s) in charge of Pentagon and DoD hype, or as having been otherwise leaked. Can you please speak simply without the extraneous crap? *So you are claiming the ABL shot down Columbia now? Not just now, but from the very get go, suggesting that the Phantom Works team took full advantage of the opportunity, which probably didn't go towards helping to prevent or moderate the demise of Columbia. Not one protective tile on Columbia was optional, meaning that each and every one of those tiles was essential for a safe reentry. Adding even a minor pilot beam of ABL energy for obtaining those subsequent thermal readings and confirming their tracking stability testing probably didn't terminate Columbia, but it sure as hell wasn't helping. |
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Apollo 13, what if the SMs tank had exploded after the LM hadbeen on the surface
On Friday, February 1, 2013 3:46:04 PM UTC-5, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 1, 8:40*am, Dean wrote: On Friday, February 1, 2013 9:27:53 AM UTC-5, Brad Guth wrote: On Feb 1, 5:01*am, bob haller wrote: On Jan 31, 10:50*am, Dean wrote: On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:31:45 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: On Jan 31, 9:11*am, Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:11:36 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote: ok to make it clear you believe that if anyone dies in space its best to not attempt recovery of their body? the challenger bodies and crew compartment were in deep water off the coast...... but its ok to recover gus grissoms mercury capsule that sunk so long ago in very deep water? Do you have problems with common sense? *Which is easier? *Recovering a body from the moon or one in water off the coast of FL? *Really, Bob, you need to think a bit deeper sometimes. It's clear that Bob is out of his depth. Jeff -- "the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer really look at the efforts today to recover remains from korea or second world war. why spend time and money the 2nd world war familys who knew the victims have probably mostly died of old age.... Jesus, Bob! *You really are denser than osmium, aren't you? well heres a connected issue, if nasa decides a crew is doomed to die, should the crew be told? say the columbia crew, should they have been informed before re entry if nasa was certain of their dying? Should they have been told about the Boeing Phantom Works of TRW/ Raytheon testing out their nifty ABL capability of targeting an incoming LEO item, from an operationally cloaked altitude of 40,000+ feet? *http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices...itary/abl/pics... *http://www.lb.boeing.com/defense-spa...s-clips/SMF071... *http://www.gizmag.com/boeing-airborn...missile/12567/ *http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread298256/pg1 *BP Deep Horizon helipad platform hole: *http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/0...explosion-on-t... *http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/924...orm990x669.jpg *The extra amount of thermal sensors incorporated within the underside of Columbia, of which Boeing Phantom Works always had a direct satellite link to, made for an ideal test target in order to fully verify in real time, as to the effective heating caused by their ABL. DoD contracts always require such demonstrated proof before moving on with additional R&D funding. *These DoD contracts are worth billions, and to pass up an opportunity of using Columbia as representing a savings of at least 100 million to Boeing, should have been a wee bit too tempting to pass up. *Of course If Columbia hadn’t been previously damaged, the ABL test could have been relatively harmless. No doubt whenever our DoD screws up, we don’t always get to see or hear about it unless it was being live covered by some media group(s) in charge of Pentagon and DoD hype, or as having been otherwise leaked. Can you please speak simply without the extraneous crap? *So you are claiming the ABL shot down Columbia now? Not just now, but from the very get go, suggesting that the Phantom Works team took full advantage of the opportunity, which probably didn't go towards helping to prevent or moderate the demise of Columbia. Not one protective tile on Columbia was optional, meaning that each and every one of those tiles was essential for a safe reentry. Adding even a minor pilot beam of ABL energy for obtaining those subsequent thermal readings and confirming their tracking stability testing probably didn't terminate Columbia, but it sure as hell wasn't helping. Oh dear lord! How do you conspirowhackos come up with this stuff? |
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