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The Moon Has Helium!
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:12:16 PM UTC-4, Brad Guth wrote:
On Sep 10, 5:13*am, Dean wrote: On Sunday, September 9, 2012 10:42:36 PM UTC-4, Brad Guth wrote: On Sep 9, 11:18*am, Dean wrote: You are certifiably insane. Your inability to contribute any sort of deductive science as to the geology and metallicity of our moon, is proof positive that you and others of your kind feel like you are being put at risk by way of my topics and replies. No, your topics consist of cutting and pasting technical statements to generate an apparently educated personna. You've had your arguments shot down so many times that the flames are continuous. At least my flames are honestly independent and without ulterior motives, whereas I bet your flames have a status-quo stench about them. Can you tell us what sort of minerals or raw elements make any of these colors? The moon is not monochromatic nor inert: Moon’s natural surface colors are those of all the perfectly natural minerals as they unavoidably react to the visible and UV spectrum, as only better viewed with having their natural color/hue saturation cranked up, as otherwise there’s no false or artificial colors added. Define "raw element"? |
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On Sep 12, 5:35*am, Dean wrote:
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:12:16 PM UTC-4, Brad Guth wrote: On Sep 10, 5:13*am, Dean wrote: On Sunday, September 9, 2012 10:42:36 PM UTC-4, Brad Guth wrote: On Sep 9, 11:18*am, Dean wrote: You are certifiably insane. Your inability to contribute any sort of deductive science as to the geology and metallicity of our moon, is proof positive that you and others of your kind feel like you are being put at risk by way of my topics and replies. No, your topics consist of cutting and pasting technical statements to generate an apparently educated personna. You've had your arguments shot down so many times that the flames are continuous. At least my flames are honestly independent and without ulterior motives, whereas I bet your flames have a status-quo stench about them. Can you tell us what sort of minerals or raw elements make any of these colors? The moon is not monochromatic nor inert: Moon’s natural *surface colors are those of all the perfectly natural minerals as they unavoidably react to the visible and UV spectrum, as only better viewed with having their natural color/hue saturation cranked up, as otherwise there’s no false or artificial colors added. Define "raw element"? Helium, uranium, thorium, radium, titanium, iron, sodium and so on. |
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On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:12:10 PM UTC-4, Brad Guth wrote:
On Sep 12, 5:35*am, Dean wrote: On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:12:16 PM UTC-4, Brad Guth wrote: On Sep 10, 5:13*am, Dean wrote: On Sunday, September 9, 2012 10:42:36 PM UTC-4, Brad Guth wrote: On Sep 9, 11:18*am, Dean wrote: You are certifiably insane. Your inability to contribute any sort of deductive science as to the geology and metallicity of our moon, is proof positive that you and others of your kind feel like you are being put at risk by way of my topics and replies. No, your topics consist of cutting and pasting technical statements to generate an apparently educated personna. You've had your arguments shot down so many times that the flames are continuous. At least my flames are honestly independent and without ulterior motives, whereas I bet your flames have a status-quo stench about them. Can you tell us what sort of minerals or raw elements make any of these colors? The moon is not monochromatic nor inert: Moon’s natural *surface colors are those of all the perfectly natural minerals as they unavoidably react to the visible and UV spectrum, as only better viewed with having their natural color/hue saturation cranked up, as otherwise there’s no false or artificial colors added. Define "raw element"? Helium, uranium, thorium, radium, titanium, iron, sodium and so on. Other than helium, I doubt if any of those are present in raw form. |
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On Sep 13, 5:16*am, Dean wrote:
On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:12:10 PM UTC-4, Brad Guth wrote: On Sep 12, 5:35*am, Dean wrote: On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:12:16 PM UTC-4, Brad Guth wrote: On Sep 10, 5:13*am, Dean wrote: On Sunday, September 9, 2012 10:42:36 PM UTC-4, Brad Guth wrote: On Sep 9, 11:18*am, Dean wrote: You are certifiably insane. Your inability to contribute any sort of deductive science as to the geology and metallicity of our moon, is proof positive that you and others of your kind feel like you are being put at risk by way of my topics and replies. No, your topics consist of cutting and pasting technical statements to generate an apparently educated personna. You've had your arguments shot down so many times that the flames are continuous. At least my flames are honestly independent and without ulterior motives, whereas I bet your flames have a status-quo stench about them. Can you tell us what sort of minerals or raw elements make any of these colors? The moon is not monochromatic nor inert: Moon’s natural *surface colors are those of all the perfectly natural minerals as they unavoidably react to the visible and UV spectrum, as only better viewed with having their natural color/hue saturation cranked up, as otherwise there’s no false or artificial colors added. Define "raw element"? Helium, uranium, thorium, radium, titanium, iron, sodium and so on. Other than helium, I doubt if any of those are present in raw form. Those raw geology colors of our physically dark moon would suggest otherwise. Are you suggesting that visible plus UV illumination doesn't yield any secondary/recoil colors of what sort of minerals are there to behold? The moon is not monochromatic nor inert: Moon’s natural surface colors are those of all the perfectly natural minerals as they unavoidably react to the visible and UV spectrum, as only better viewed with having their natural color/hue saturation cranked up, as otherwise there’s no false or artificial colors added. http://spaceweather.com/submissions/...1346444660.jpg http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod200...4dnmol44vuaf43 |
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All of those elements are highly reactive and will not exist in "raw" uncombined forms.
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On Sep 14, 6:56*pm, Dean wrote:
All of those elements are highly reactive and will not exist in "raw" uncombined forms. That's all good to know. If there are not minerals and elements of natural moon geology and deposits (because the Apollo moon was inert and monochromatic), then tell us what those combined reactive elements represent by their creating such natural colors. For example, does that naked surface of our moon have any cobalt? If there's no cobalt, then what's creating its gamma? What sort of He outflux (kg/sec) are you suggesting about our naked moon? http://spaceweather.com/submissions/...1346444660.jpg http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod200...4dnmol44vuaf43 |
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On Sep 14, 6:56*pm, Dean wrote:
All of those elements are highly reactive and will not exist in "raw" uncombined forms. That's all good to know. Actually our moon appears to offer any number of raw elements that are reactive enough to offer their respective color by way of being illuminated by those photons of natural and UV enhancement. The ionized sodium is certainly one such element that's detected as a sparse cloud all the way out to 9r, plus otherwise our moon offers an impressive solar wind blown comet like tail of 900,000 km worth of its sodium. No doubt it's helium gets blown and/or dispersed much easier and a whole lot further than sodium. However, If there are not minerals and elements of any natural moon geology and deposits (because the Apollo moon was so unusually inert and monochromatic), then tell us what those combined reactive elements represent by way of their creating such natural colors that are easily recorded. For example, does that naked and physically dark surface of our moon have any cobalt? If there's no cobalt, then what's creating its gamma? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Moon_egret.jpg What sort of He outflux (kg/sec) are you suggesting about our naked moon? http://spaceweather.com/submissions/...izadeh-fac_134... http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod200...Licchelli-Satu... It doesn't seem to offer any shortage of thorium: http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/325400/enlarge http://forum.worldwindcentral.com/sh...ad.php?t=20094 Why is our Apollo moon so much less solar wind and cosmic radiation worthy than our Van Allen belts? Is the extremely high electrostatic charge keeping those solar wind charged and cosmic radiation particles from being attracted to its gravity, that's offering several trillion fold greater attraction than the same volume of Van Allen belt has to offer? http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” |
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Every 19 months the planet Venus passes extremely nearby, and gets
ignored each and every time, perhaps because it couldn't even be seen by any of our colorblind Apollo missions, much less recorded on Kodak film that survived the worse environmental trauma and demonstrated terrific dynamic range for everything else. So, like it or not, we're apparently stuck with exploiting our limited and depleted terrestrial resources for the foreseeable future, even if it means our having to survive and pay for WW3 and WW4. When ‘Big Energy’ as often with multiple offshore protected corporations that get to run as many accounting hide and seek books as they like, manage to screw up or cause death and enormous environmental damage, the only ones ever having to pay for everything (no matters what they’re telling us) are those of us energy and product consumers. According to the redneck and FUD-master likes of Hagar and his company of ZNR oligarch friends, only deregulation will fix all of that, just like their ENRON had everything all fixed up until pesky state attorney generals and a few private energy consumers had just about enough of being screwed over. This is not to say that our government has been accomplishing even 10% of what it claims to have authority over, and in some instances having directly made situations a whole lot worse and often behind closed doors so that only generations from now will ever get any chance of knowing the whole truth and nothing but the truth. This is why the honest all-inclusive cost of extracting and process minerals and rare elements is always a whole lot more costly and otherwise packing loads of Karma, than we’re being told of by our peers. By allowing some of us to go off-world for obtaining at least a few of these most depleted and/or restricted minerals and rare elements would greatly alleviate the local trauma and spendy Karma that we’re otherwise stuck with. Of course terrestrial use of solar, wind, geothermal, hydroelectric and even failsafe thorium derived energy potential is always a given, but that too is tree-hugger restricted and otherwise politicized to death, in part because of the mainstream status-quo policies set up and enforced by oligarchs plus the always “not in my backyard” mindset that our government of this supposed republic does little if anything to eliminate. What sort of weird geology shows us such physically dark minerals and raw element colors/hues from a great distance, but then turns monochromatic, becomes highly reflective and inert upon close and totally objective inspections? Going off-world doesn’t even have to represent an extremely nearby and geologically active planet like Venus, because we have an enormous moon that’s loaded with most of everything worth going after. The moon is not actually monochromatic nor inert: Moon’s natural surface colors are those of all the perfectly natural minerals as they unavoidably react to the visible and UV spectrum, as only better viewed with having their natural color/hue saturation cranked up, as otherwise there’s no false or artificial colors added. http://spaceweather.com/submissions/...1346444660.jpg http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod200...4dnmol44vuaf43 Oddly the NASA/Apollo era and their rad-hard Kodak version of our physically dark and paramagnetic moon is apparently the one and only off-world location that becomes more inert as well as more reflective and monochromatic by the closer you get to it, and any planet other than Earth simply can’t be recorded within the same FOV as having the horizon of that naked moon (regardless of the FOV direction or use of any given lens, as well as not even possible when using the world’s best film and optics along with a polarized optical filter to reduce the local surface glare doesn’t seem to help). Obviously our mainstream peers have always insisted that the regular laws of physics do not apply to that of Venus or even our moon, and any natural geology colors are simply intentionally introduced as false or fake colors because of our Apollo era was that of a purely monochromatic and inert moon that had nothing of any value to offer, including not even carbonado or bedrock of any common dark basalt. BTW; be certain to never get that physically dark moon in the same FOV as Saturn, Jupiter or especially Venus or even Mercury, because according to our NASA/Apollo era they’ll hardly show up and there will be nothing of any color or hue saturation to work with. Oddly the only color on the moon is supposedly that which astronauts brought along, and apparently none of that was the least bit UV reactive or even capable of reflecting our bluish planetshine that offers upwards of 50 times brighter illumination than any moonlight here on Earth, and from that Apollo era there’s still no telling what the planetshine illuminated temperature or any other nighttime environment consideration is on the cool surface of our naked moon, that is other than its abundance of gamma and X-rays. Outside of our natural human visual perceptions of its dynamic range as well as colors, there’s radar assisted imaging and of course those methods via laser ranging and always X-ray and gamma spectrometry of any given surface that becomes quite reliably viewable regardless of day or night, cloudy or clear via such imaging technology, that which only redneck bigots and FUD-masters claim is inadmissible. Besides merely following my deductive interpretations, do reconsider bothering yourself to take another subjective and open mindset look- see, and then honestly and deductively interpret this hot terrain of Venus for yourself, as to what some of those highly unusual patterns could possibly represent, as offering anything other than the random geology happenstance of hot rocks that only so happen to look exactly like complex infrastructure. “Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...79402364691314 This is not to say that 99.9999% of the Venus surface doesn’t look perfectly natural (at least it does to me), just like the surface of Earth might look if having to use the exact same SAR-C imaging methods and its limited resolution. After all, a millionth of that hot Venus surface area is still 4.6e8 m2, or 460 km2, and this most complex area of “Guth Venus” (100 x 100 pixels or 506 km2) that still includes mostly natural geology, isn’t involving but a fraction more than a millionth of the Venus surface area, and yet it seems as though highly developed and to a large enough scale that by rights should make for deductively interpreting those patterns as rather easy, for even a dysfunctional 5th grader. It can also be suggested and reasonably argued that initially (4+ billion years ago) our sun was 25% cooler than nowadays, thereby making Venus quite naked Goldilocks approved. But this doesn’t fully explain as to why such a large sale of a community or mining operation was established, and as to why Venus has been radiating such a large amount of its geothermal core energy and as having been creating all of that unprotected atmosphere that has to be continually renewed due to the lack of any geomagnetic field, 10% less gravity and being closer to the sun. Other thumbnail images, including “mgn_c115s095_1.gif” (225 m/pixel) http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif BTW; there's still no American flags on Venus, but there have been USSR/Russian flags on multiple landers that got their landers situated there decades before us. So, perhaps we’ll have to concede and otherwise accept that Venus and all of its natural resources belongs to Russia. http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” |
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On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:23:58 AM UTC-4, Brad Guth wrote:
Every 19 months the planet Venus passes extremely nearby, and gets ignored each and every time, perhaps because it couldn't even be seen by any of our colorblind Apollo missions, much less recorded on Kodak film that survived the worse environmental trauma and demonstrated terrific dynamic range for everything else. So, like it or not, we're apparently stuck with exploiting our limited and depleted terrestrial resources for the foreseeable future, even if it means our having to survive and pay for WW3 and WW4. When ‘Big Energy’ as often with multiple offshore protected corporations that get to run as many accounting hide and seek books as they like, manage to screw up or cause death and enormous environmental damage, the only ones ever having to pay for everything (no matters what they’re telling us) are those of us energy and product consumers. According to the redneck and FUD-master likes of Hagar and his company of ZNR oligarch friends, only deregulation will fix all of that, just like their ENRON had everything all fixed up until pesky state attorney generals and a few private energy consumers had just about enough of being screwed over. This is not to say that our government has been accomplishing even 10% of what it claims to have authority over, and in some instances having directly made situations a whole lot worse and often behind closed doors so that only generations from now will ever get any chance of knowing the whole truth and nothing but the truth. This is why the honest all-inclusive cost of extracting and process minerals and rare elements is always a whole lot more costly and otherwise packing loads of Karma, than we’re being told of by our peers. By allowing some of us to go off-world for obtaining at least a few of these most depleted and/or restricted minerals and rare elements would greatly alleviate the local trauma and spendy Karma that we’re otherwise stuck with. Of course terrestrial use of solar, wind, geothermal, hydroelectric and even failsafe thorium derived energy potential is always a given, but that too is tree-hugger restricted and otherwise politicized to death, in part because of the mainstream status-quo policies set up and enforced by oligarchs plus the always “not in my backyard” mindset that our government of this supposed republic does little if anything to eliminate. What sort of weird geology shows us such physically dark minerals and raw element colors/hues from a great distance, but then turns monochromatic, becomes highly reflective and inert upon close and totally objective inspections? Going off-world doesn’t even have to represent an extremely nearby and geologically active planet like Venus, because we have an enormous moon that’s loaded with most of everything worth going after. The moon is not actually monochromatic nor inert: Moon’s natural surface colors are those of all the perfectly natural minerals as they unavoidably react to the visible and UV spectrum, as only better viewed with having their natural color/hue saturation cranked up, as otherwise there’s no false or artificial colors added. http://spaceweather.com/submissions/...1346444660.jpg http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod200...4dnmol44vuaf43 Oddly the NASA/Apollo era and their rad-hard Kodak version of our physically dark and paramagnetic moon is apparently the one and only off-world location that becomes more inert as well as more reflective and monochromatic by the closer you get to it, and any planet other than Earth simply can’t be recorded within the same FOV as having the horizon of that naked moon (regardless of the FOV direction or use of any given lens, as well as not even possible when using the world’s best film and optics along with a polarized optical filter to reduce the local surface glare doesn’t seem to help). Obviously our mainstream peers have always insisted that the regular laws of physics do not apply to that of Venus or even our moon, and any natural geology colors are simply intentionally introduced as false or fake colors because of our Apollo era was that of a purely monochromatic and inert moon that had nothing of any value to offer, including not even carbonado or bedrock of any common dark basalt. BTW; be certain to never get that physically dark moon in the same FOV as Saturn, Jupiter or especially Venus or even Mercury, because according to our NASA/Apollo era they’ll hardly show up and there will be nothing of any color or hue saturation to work with. Oddly the only color on the moon is supposedly that which astronauts brought along, and apparently none of that was the least bit UV reactive or even capable of reflecting our bluish planetshine that offers upwards of 50 times brighter illumination than any moonlight here on Earth, and from that Apollo era there’s still no telling what the planetshine illuminated temperature or any other nighttime environment consideration is on the cool surface of our naked moon, that is other than its abundance of gamma and X-rays. Outside of our natural human visual perceptions of its dynamic range as well as colors, there’s radar assisted imaging and of course those methods via laser ranging and always X-ray and gamma spectrometry of any given surface that becomes quite reliably viewable regardless of day or night, cloudy or clear via such imaging technology, that which only redneck bigots and FUD-masters claim is inadmissible. Besides merely following my deductive interpretations, do reconsider bothering yourself to take another subjective and open mindset look- see, and then honestly and deductively interpret this hot terrain of Venus for yourself, as to what some of those highly unusual patterns could possibly represent, as offering anything other than the random geology happenstance of hot rocks that only so happen to look exactly like complex infrastructure. “Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...79402364691314 This is not to say that 99.9999% of the Venus surface doesn’t look perfectly natural (at least it does to me), just like the surface of Earth might look if having to use the exact same SAR-C imaging methods and its limited resolution. After all, a millionth of that hot Venus surface area is still 4.6e8 m2, or 460 km2, and this most complex area of “Guth Venus” (100 x 100 pixels or 506 km2) that still includes mostly natural geology, isn’t involving but a fraction more than a millionth of the Venus surface area, and yet it seems as though highly developed and to a large enough scale that by rights should make for deductively interpreting those patterns as rather easy, for even a dysfunctional 5th grader. It can also be suggested and reasonably argued that initially (4+ billion years ago) our sun was 25% cooler than nowadays, thereby making Venus quite naked Goldilocks approved. But this doesn’t fully explain as to why such a large sale of a community or mining operation was established, and as to why Venus has been radiating such a large amount of its geothermal core energy and as having been creating all of that unprotected atmosphere that has to be continually renewed due to the lack of any geomagnetic field, 10% less gravity and being closer to the sun. Other thumbnail images, including “mgn_c115s095_1.gif” (225 m/pixel) http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif BTW; there's still no American flags on Venus, but there have been USSR/Russian flags on multiple landers that got their landers situated there decades before us. So, perhaps we’ll have to concede and otherwise accept that Venus and all of its natural resources belongs to Russia. http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” Look, you'd do everyone a favor if you'd clip 95% of your writing and just state clearly what you are proposing. If I parse away 95%, I suspect you are advocating the immediate exploitation of Venus (and its not "extremely" nearby) for it's mineral resources? And please elaborate without using your excessive adverbs and adjectives on just how you propose to get those minerals off Venus? It still has 90% of terrestial gravity and how difficult is it to lift 1 lb of material off Earth? Now, compound that by having to work in a hellishly hot, corrosive, high pressure environment. No, go right ahead and use your typical FUD argument. But you know damned well that its not FUD, its more common sense which apparently you lack entirely. |
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On Sep 18, 11:14*am, Dean wrote:
On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:23:58 AM UTC-4, Brad Guth wrote: Every 19 months the planet Venus passes extremely nearby, and gets ignored each and every time, perhaps because it couldn't even be seen by any of our colorblind Apollo missions, much less recorded on Kodak film that survived the worse environmental trauma and demonstrated terrific dynamic range for everything else. *So, like it or not, we're apparently stuck with exploiting our limited and depleted terrestrial resources for the foreseeable future, even if it means our having to survive and pay for WW3 and WW4. When ‘Big Energy’ as often with multiple offshore protected corporations that get to run as many accounting hide and seek books as they like, manage to screw up or cause death and enormous environmental damage, the only ones ever having to pay for everything (no matters what they’re telling us) are those of us energy and product consumers. According to the redneck and FUD-master likes of Hagar and his company of ZNR oligarch friends, only deregulation will fix all of that, just like their ENRON had everything all fixed up until pesky state attorney generals and a few private energy consumers had just about enough of being screwed over. This is not to say that our government has been accomplishing even 10% of what it claims to have authority over, and in some instances having directly made situations a whole lot worse and often behind closed doors so that only generations from now will ever get any chance of knowing the whole truth and nothing but the truth. This is why the honest all-inclusive cost of extracting and process minerals and rare elements is always a whole lot more costly and otherwise packing loads of Karma, than we’re being told of by our peers. *By allowing some of us to go off-world for obtaining at least a few of these most depleted and/or restricted minerals and rare elements would greatly alleviate the local trauma and spendy Karma that we’re otherwise stuck with. *Of course terrestrial use of solar, wind, geothermal, hydroelectric and even failsafe thorium derived energy potential is always a given, but that too is tree-hugger restricted and otherwise politicized to death, in part because of the mainstream status-quo policies set up and enforced by oligarchs plus the always “not in my backyard” mindset that our government of this supposed republic does little if anything to eliminate. What sort of weird geology shows us such physically dark minerals and raw element colors/hues from a great distance, but then turns monochromatic, becomes highly reflective and inert upon close and totally objective inspections? Going off-world doesn’t even have to represent an extremely nearby and geologically active planet like Venus, because we have an enormous moon that’s loaded with most of everything worth going after. The moon is not actually monochromatic nor inert: Moon’s natural *surface colors are those of all the perfectly natural minerals as they unavoidably react to the visible and UV spectrum, as only better viewed with having their natural color/hue saturation cranked up, as otherwise there’s no false or artificial colors added. *http://spaceweather.com/submissions/...izadeh-fac_134... *http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod200...Licchelli-Satu... *Oddly the NASA/Apollo era and their rad-hard Kodak version of our physically dark and paramagnetic moon is apparently the one and only off-world location that becomes more inert as well as more reflective and monochromatic by the closer you get to it, and any planet other than Earth simply can’t be recorded within the same FOV as having the horizon of that naked moon (regardless of the FOV direction or use of any given lens, as well as not even possible when using the world’s best film and optics along with a polarized optical filter to reduce the local surface glare doesn’t seem to help). Obviously our mainstream peers have always insisted that the regular laws of physics do not apply to that of Venus or even our moon, and any natural geology colors are simply intentionally introduced as false or fake colors because of our Apollo era was that of a purely monochromatic and inert moon that had nothing of any value to offer, including not even carbonado or bedrock of any common dark basalt. BTW; *be certain to never get that physically dark moon in the same FOV as Saturn, Jupiter or especially Venus or even Mercury, because according to our NASA/Apollo era they’ll hardly show up and there will be nothing of any color or hue saturation to work with. *Oddly the only color on the moon is supposedly that which astronauts brought along, and apparently none of that was the least bit UV reactive or even capable of reflecting our bluish planetshine that offers upwards of 50 times brighter illumination than any moonlight here on Earth, and from that Apollo era there’s still no telling what the planetshine illuminated temperature or any other nighttime environment consideration is on the cool surface of our naked moon, that is other than its abundance of gamma and X-rays. Outside of our natural human visual perceptions of its dynamic range as well as colors, there’s radar assisted imaging and of course those methods via laser ranging and always X-ray and gamma spectrometry of any given surface that becomes quite reliably viewable regardless of day or night, cloudy or clear via such imaging technology, that which only redneck bigots and FUD-masters claim is inadmissible. Besides merely following my deductive interpretations, do reconsider bothering yourself to take another subjective and open mindset look- see, and then honestly and deductively interpret this hot terrain of Venus for yourself, as to what some of those highly unusual patterns could possibly represent, as offering anything other than the random geology happenstance of hot rocks that only so happen to look exactly like complex infrastructure. “Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow... *This is not to say that 99.9999% of the Venus surface doesn’t look perfectly natural (at least it does to me), just like the surface of Earth might look if having to use the exact same SAR-C imaging methods and its limited resolution. *After all, a millionth of that hot Venus surface area is still 4.6e8 m2, or 460 km2, and this most complex area of “Guth Venus” (100 x 100 pixels or 506 km2) that still includes mostly natural geology, isn’t involving but a fraction more than a millionth of the Venus surface area, and yet it seems as though highly developed and to a large enough scale that by rights should make for deductively interpreting those patterns as rather easy, for even a dysfunctional 5th grader. It can also be suggested and reasonably argued that initially (4+ billion years ago) our sun was 25% cooler than nowadays, thereby making Venus quite naked Goldilocks approved. *But this doesn’t fully explain as to why such a large sale of a community or mining operation was established, and as to why Venus has been radiating such a large amount of its geothermal core energy and as having been creating all of that unprotected atmosphere that has to be continually renewed due to the lack of any geomagnetic field, 10% less gravity and being closer to the sun. *Other thumbnail images, including “mgn_c115s095_1.gif” (225 m/pixel) *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html *Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1 *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif * BTW; *there's still no American flags on Venus, but there have been USSR/Russian flags on multiple landers that got their landers situated there decades before us. *So, perhaps we’ll have to concede and otherwise accept that Venus and all of its natural resources belongs to Russia. *http://groups.google.com/groups/search *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” Look, you'd do everyone a favor if you'd clip 95% of your writing and just state clearly what you are proposing. *If I parse away 95%, I suspect you are advocating the immediate exploitation of Venus (and its not "extremely" nearby) for it's mineral resources? *And please elaborate without using your excessive adverbs and adjectives on just how you propose to get those minerals off Venus? *It still has 90% of terrestial gravity and how difficult is it to lift 1 lb of material off Earth? *Now, compound that by having to work in a hellishly hot, corrosive, high pressure environment. No, go right ahead and use your typical FUD argument. *But you know damned well that its not FUD, its more common sense which apparently you lack entirely. Obviously reading comprehension isn't one of your better skills. We should do the moon first, using as many TBMs as possible to dig into its thick and very protective crust, but also immediately send off multiple probes to further investigate the extremely nearby (110 LD) planet Venus. Personally I'd also do my LSE-CM/ISS, but that one takes real expertise, though not nearly as much as relocating our moon as per keeping it within a halo of Earth L1. How's that? |
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