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Our future as a species - Fermi Paradox revisted - Where they all
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:31:01 -0600, in a place far, far away, "Jim
Davis" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: "Rand Simberg" wrote... Do you have any eivdence that there is a sufficient market for trips to the moon? Of course, but there's no point in presenting it to you, because you don't accept evidence--you demand *proof*, which of course no one has, or will have, until it actually occurs. Could you present it to the rest of us? I've done so on numerous occasions. You didn't find it compelling, which is fine, since I'm not asking you for money. -- simberg.interglobal.org * 310 372-7963 (CA) 307 739-1296 (Jackson Hole) interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org "Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..." Swap the first . and @ and throw out the ".trash" to email me. Here's my email address for autospammers: |
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Our future as a species - Fermi Paradox revisted - Where they all
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:19:10 +1100, in a place far, far away, Stephen
Souter made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: I've been told that one of the reasons many Americans do not visit Australia is because they are put off by the long plane flight just to get there. Instead they prefer to visit some place closer like Europe. That is true. It is also true that many Americans *do* visit Australia, so once again, you have no useful point, since no one claimed that everyone will want to go to the moon. I was responding to a comment (which you have conveniently snipped) that "people will go to" the Moon ("because it *is* the Moon, and not merely a place that 'looks like' the Moon") once the "cheap enough" point is reached. And that comment remains reasonable, and not in any way repudiated by anything with which you've chosen to pollute Usenet. I merely pointed out that it may not necessarily be that simple. Other factors may deter some people from going who might otherwise could afford to have gone and might have gone. Since no one sensible ever claimed otherwise (cite?), your point remains pointless. If you find that not "useful", then my apologies. I never claimed to be able to open a closed mind. No one with any sense ever claimed that you made such an idiotic claim. So once again, you waste bandwidth. -- simberg.interglobal.org * 310 372-7963 (CA) 307 739-1296 (Jackson Hole) interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org "Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..." Swap the first . and @ and throw out the ".trash" to email me. Here's my email address for autospammers: |
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Our future as a species - Fermi Paradox revisted - Where they all
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h (Rand Simberg) wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:19:10 +1100, in a place far, far away, Stephen Souter made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: If you find that not "useful", then my apologies. I never claimed to be able to open a closed mind. No one with any sense ever claimed that you made such an idiotic claim. So once again, you waste bandwidth. Rand, you have a mind like a steel trap. I thought you'd at least recognise sarcasm in the flesh. -- Stephen Souter http://www.edfac.usyd.edu.au/staff/souters/ |
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Our future as a species - Fermi Paradox revisted - Where they all
"Rand Simberg" wrote in message ... On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:31:01 -0600, in a place far, far away, "Jim Davis" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: "Rand Simberg" wrote... Do you have any eivdence that there is a sufficient market for trips to the moon? Of course, but there's no point in presenting it to you, because you don't accept evidence--you demand *proof*, which of course no one has, or will have, until it actually occurs. I have done no such thing. Please refrain from lying. Could you present it to the rest of us? I've done so on numerous occasions. You didn't find it compelling, which is fine, since I'm not asking you for money. You know you keep saying this, but repeating it doesn't make it true. You have not presented any evidence concerning the size of the market for travel to the moon. You have *referred* to some private and confidential studies which you claim show that there is a mass market for travel to LEO - but as you will not actually share that information, we cannot decide for ourselves how good it is. |
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Our future as a species - Fermi Paradox revisted - Where they all
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:12:03 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
"Dave" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: "Rand Simberg" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:31:01 -0600, in a place far, far away, "Jim Davis" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: "Rand Simberg" wrote... Do you have any eivdence that there is a sufficient market for trips to the moon? Of course, but there's no point in presenting it to you, because you don't accept evidence--you demand *proof*, which of course no one has, or will have, until it actually occurs. I have done no such thing. Please refrain from lying. It's not a lie. It's a reasonably interpretation of all your responses in this matter. -- simberg.interglobal.org * 310 372-7963 (CA) 307 739-1296 (Jackson Hole) interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org "Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..." Swap the first . and @ and throw out the ".trash" to email me. Here's my email address for autospammers: |
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Our future as a species - Fermi Paradox revisted - Where they all
"Rand Simberg" wrote in message ... On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:12:03 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away, "Dave" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: "Rand Simberg" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:31:01 -0600, in a place far, far away, "Jim Davis" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: "Rand Simberg" wrote... Do you have any eivdence that there is a sufficient market for trips to the moon? Of course, but there's no point in presenting it to you, because you don't accept evidence--you demand *proof*, which of course no one has, or will have, until it actually occurs. I have done no such thing. Please refrain from lying. It's not a lie. It's a reasonably interpretation of all your responses in this matter. No, actually it is no such thing. It is you chosing to answer the questions you would like to have been asked. Please post some evidence supporting your stance of a mass market other than the fact that you and a number of people you have met want to do it. Selection effects are well documented and should not be mistaken for a mass market - lots and lots of people have lost money because they have not recognised that. |
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Our future as a species - Fermi Paradox revisted - Where they all
Selection effects are well documented and should not be mistaken for a mass
market - lots and lots of people have lost money because they have not recognised that. Yes. Excactly. Here's the process for getting reasonably accurate market number. 1) Identify your target demographic - this is usually a function of how much the item will cost, what kind of person would be interested, etc. etc. 2) Do a survey that figures out how many of those people say they would be interested in the product 3) Calculate a range of between two and five percent of that number. That's the approximate size of your market. |
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