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Are All Galaxies Being Pulled Down Into a Time Vortex???
On Mar 3, 12:22*pm, China Blue Clay wrote:
In article , *Brad Guth wrote: On Mar 3, 8:51*am, China Blue Clay wrote: What the **** is a 'Time Vortex'? -- My name is Indigo Montoya. \\ * * * *Annoying Usenet one post at a time. You flamed my father. * * * \' * * * * At least I can stay in character. Prepare to be spanked. * * // * * * * * * * When you look into the void, Stop posting that! * * * *`/ *the void looks into you, and fulfills you. Going into an event horizon is where time slows way the hell down. *If that's not sufficiently gravity vortex worthy, then perhaps nothing is. That's not vortex. That is perceived relativistic dilation for an observer away from the event horizon. The person going through the horizon sees no dilation, no helical structure, no loop the looping of timing. Are you suggesting that a BH singularity or that of its EH offers normal time? Everybody sees the normal passage of time in their own reference frame. Even when tidal forces grind them into fatou dust, their time ticks away normally. -- My name is Indigo Montoya. \\ * * * *Annoying Usenet one post at a time. You flamed my father. * * * \' * * * * At least I can stay in character. Prepare to be spanked. * * // * * * * * * * When you look into the void, Stop posting that! * * * *`/ *the void looks into you, and fulfills you. That's a cop-out, and you know it. Increased gravity as we know it makes our time tick slower as we know it. Perhaps the aether mass as representing 96.5% the mass of our universe has to be taken into account. |
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Are All Galaxies Being Pulled Down Into a Time Vortex???
On Mar 3, 2:00*pm, China Blue Clay wrote:
In article , *Brad Guth wrote: On Mar 3, 12:22*pm, China Blue Clay wrote: In article , *Brad Guth wrote: On Mar 3, 8:51*am, China Blue Clay wrote: What the **** is a 'Time Vortex'? -- My name is Indigo Montoya. \\ * * * *Annoying Usenet one post at a time. You flamed my father. * * * \' * * * * At least I can stay in character. Prepare to be spanked. * * // * * * * * * * When you look into the void, Stop posting that! * * * *`/ *the void looks into you, and fulfills you. Going into an event horizon is where time slows way the hell down. *If that's not sufficiently gravity vortex worthy, then perhaps nothing is. That's not vortex. That is perceived relativistic dilation for an observer away from the event horizon. The person going through the horizon sees no dilation, no helical structure, no loop the looping of timing. Are you suggesting that a BH singularity or that of its EH offers normal time? Everybody sees the normal passage of time in their own reference frame. Even when tidal forces grind them into fatou dust, their time ticks away normally. -- My name is Indigo Montoya. \\ * * * *Annoying Usenet one post at a time. You flamed my father. * * * \' * * * * At least I can stay in character. Prepare to be spanked. * * // * * * * * * * When you look into the void, Stop posting that! * * * *`/ *the void looks into you, and fulfills you. That's a cop-out, and you know it. Increased gravity as we know it makes our time tick slower as we know it. Where did you earn your doctorate in stupidity? If your clock clicks slower, your awareness of the click will slow equally, and you will perceive your clock ticking away at the same rate. -- My name is Indigo Montoya. \\ * * * *Annoying Usenet one post at a time. You flamed my father. * * * \' * * * * At least I can stay in character. Prepare to be spanked. * * // * * * * * * * When you look into the void, Stop posting that! * * * *`/ *the void looks into you, and fulfills you. Apparently my "doctorate in stupidity" came from the same school as your doctorate in anti-comprehension. In other words, what the hell are you going on about? |
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Are All Galaxies Being Pulled Down Into a Time Vortex???
On 3/3/13 3:48 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
On Mar 3, 11:25 am, Sam Wormley wrote: On 3/3/13 12:56 PM, Brad Guth wrote: Going into an event horizon is where time slows way the hell down. Whether time slow or not depends on the perspective of the observer. You forgot to study relativity theory, didn't you Brad! :-o How is that relative? Are you suggesting that increased gravity makes time go faster? Whether time slow or not depends on the perspective of the observer. You forgot to study relativity theory, didn't you Brad! :-o |
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Are All Galaxies Being Pulled Down Into a Time Vortex???
On Mar 3, 4:54*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 3/3/13 3:48 PM, Brad Guth wrote: On Mar 3, 11:25 am, Sam Wormley wrote: On 3/3/13 12:56 PM, Brad Guth wrote: Going into an event horizon is where time slows way the hell down. * * Whether time slow or not depends on the perspective of the observer. * * You forgot to study relativity theory, didn't you Brad! :-o How is that relative? Are you suggesting that increased gravity makes time go faster? * *Whether time slow or not depends on the perspective of the observer. |
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Are All Galaxies Being Pulled Down Into a Time Vortex???
On 03/03/2013 4:48 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
On Mar 3, 11:25 am, Sam wrote: On 3/3/13 12:56 PM, Brad Guth wrote: Going into an event horizon is where time slows way the hell down. Whether time slow or not depends on the perspective of the observer. You forgot to study relativity theory, didn't you Brad! :-o How is that relative? Are you suggesting that increased gravity makes time go faster? Increased gravity makes time go slower, as per General Relativity. But that's not really the point: if the speed of time changes, then we'll never notice it's changed because we'll be inside it, and it'll seem just as fast as it always has. The only way we can tell it's changed is by comparing ourselves to other galaxies much farther away from us. This might actually explain Dark Energy, and why things appear to be speeding up away from us faster. If our local universe is slowing down in time, then the distant universe would look like it's speeding up in time. Yousuf Khan |
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Are All Galaxies Being Pulled Down Into a Time Vortex???
On Mar 3, 7:23*pm, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 03/03/2013 4:48 PM, Brad Guth wrote: On Mar 3, 11:25 am, Sam *wrote: On 3/3/13 12:56 PM, Brad Guth wrote: Going into an event horizon is where time slows way the hell down. * * Whether time slow or not depends on the perspective of the observer. * * You forgot to study relativity theory, didn't you Brad! :-o How is that relative? Are you suggesting that increased gravity makes time go faster? Increased gravity makes time go slower, as per General Relativity. But that's not really the point: if the speed of time changes, then we'll never notice it's changed because we'll be inside it, and it'll seem just as fast as it always has. The only way we can tell it's changed is by comparing ourselves to other galaxies much farther away from us. This might actually explain Dark Energy, and why things appear to be speeding up away from us faster. If our local universe is slowing down in time, then the distant universe would look like it's speeding up in time. * * * * Yousuf Khan If a million galaxies were inside of a super massive black hole event horizon, then all time as we outsiders see it would be extremely slow or perhaps near zero for those BH/EH sequestered galaxies. In other words, a billion years in our time might only be one year of age for those galaxies inside of the EH. Perhaps the BH/EH could represent the egg that gives birth via polar jets spewing aether that condenses into ordinary matter and into the realm of fast time as we know it. |
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Are All Galaxies Being Pulled Down Into a Time Vortex???
On 04/03/2013 1:23 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
On Mar 3, 7:23 pm, Yousuf wrote: On 03/03/2013 4:48 PM, Brad Guth wrote: Are you suggesting that increased gravity makes time go faster? Increased gravity makes time go slower, as per General Relativity. But that's not really the point: if the speed of time changes, then we'll never notice it's changed because we'll be inside it, and it'll seem just as fast as it always has. The only way we can tell it's changed is by comparing ourselves to other galaxies much farther away from us. This might actually explain Dark Energy, and why things appear to be speeding up away from us faster. If our local universe is slowing down in time, then the distant universe would look like it's speeding up in time. Yousuf Khan If a million galaxies were inside of a super massive black hole event horizon, then all time as we outsiders see it would be extremely slow or perhaps near zero for those BH/EH sequestered galaxies. If we are inside the event horizon of a BH, then the event horizon would be the edge of the universe: meaning somewhere near the CMB is our event horizon. So all galaxies that are in the visible universe are inside this event horizon, no matter how far away they are. However, the fact that galaxies that are more nearby seem to be moving much slower than galaxies that are farther away would indicate that we are all part of the blackhole's singularity. Every location inside the blackhole is its singularity. In other words, a billion years in our time might only be one year of age for those galaxies inside of the EH. Perhaps the BH/EH could represent the egg that gives birth via polar jets spewing aether that condenses into ordinary matter and into the realm of fast time as we know it. I have no idea what you're talking about. But if we're inside a BH, we wouldn't even perceive any galaxies outside of it, they would be causally disconnected from us. Yousuf Khan |
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Are All Galaxies Being Pulled Down Into a Time Vortex???
On Mar 4, 2:45*am, China Blue Clay wrote:
In article , *Brad Guth wrote: If a million galaxies were inside of a super massive black hole event horizon, then all time as we outsiders see it would be extremely slow or perhaps near zero for those BH/EH sequestered galaxies. There is no privileged frame of reference. The traveller would not see her time slowing down. The observations of the traveller and outsider are equally valid, and different, in their own frame of reference. The remains of the traveller would approach the singularity very quickly from the traveller's point of view. Perhaps not once past entering the EH, because time as we know it stops for the observer as well as the traveler. Are you suggesting black holes are cosmic passageways? |
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Are All Galaxies Being Pulled Down Into a Time Vortex???
On Mar 3, 10:23*pm, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 03/03/2013 4:48 PM, Brad Guth wrote: On Mar 3, 11:25 am, Sam *wrote: On 3/3/13 12:56 PM, Brad Guth wrote: Going into an event horizon is where time slows way the hell down. * * Whether time slow or not depends on the perspective of the observer. * * You forgot to study relativity theory, didn't you Brad! :-o How is that relative? Are you suggesting that increased gravity makes time go faster? Increased gravity makes time go slower, as per General Relativity. But that's not really the point: if the speed of time changes, then we'll never notice it's changed because we'll be inside it, and it'll seem just as fast as it always has. The only way we can tell it's changed is by comparing ourselves to other galaxies much farther away from us. This might actually explain Dark Energy, and why things appear to be speeding up away from us faster. If our local universe is slowing down in time, then the distant universe would look like it's speeding up in time. * * * * Yousuf Khan The Hubble constant (H) relates to an object's speed w.r.t. distance, but in reality is a measure of stretched space. One estimate is 61 km per sec per megaparsec for distant phenomenon. Typically, 50 km per sec per megaparsec is used for the value of redshift at the Coma Cluster of galaxies. This is indicative of quantized redshift. The uncertainty of time multiplied by the uncertainty of the energy is closely approximated to Planck's constant 'h' divided by 2p. the uncertainty principle permits these virtual particle events to occur as long as they are completed within an extraordinarily brief period of time, which is of the order of 10^-23 seconds. The redshift is quantised in fundamental steps of 2.68 km/s across the cosmos. The prime definition of the redshift, 'z', involves two measured quantities. They comprise the observed change in wavelength 'D' of a given spectral line when compared with the laboratory standard 'W'. The ratio of these quantities [D/W = z] is a dimensionless number that measures the redshift. However, it is customarily converted to a velocity by multiplying it by the current speed of light, 'c'. The redshift so defined is then 'cz', and it is this cz which is changing in steps of 2.68 kilometres per second. Since the laboratory standard wavelength 'W' is unaltered, it then follows that as [z = D/W] is systematically increasing in discrete jumps with distance, then D must be increasing in discrete jumps also. D is the difference between the observed wavelength of a given spectral line and the laboratory standard. This suggests that emitted wavelengths are becoming longer in quantum jumps with increasing distance (or with look-back time). During the time between jumps, the emitted wavelengths remain unchanged from the value attained at the last jump. To find the number of quantized shifted light years between the observer and another point in the universe, the distance between shell boundaries will be constant because of the unique behaviour which is described by equations derived from the observational data. This distance between shell boundaries is about 138,000 light years and marks the distance between successive redshift jumps of 2.73 km/s. |
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Are All Galaxies Being Pulled Down Into a Time Vortex???
On Mar 3, 11:49*pm, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 04/03/2013 1:23 AM, Brad Guth wrote: On Mar 3, 7:23 pm, Yousuf *wrote: On 03/03/2013 4:48 PM, Brad Guth wrote: Are you suggesting that increased gravity makes time go faster? Increased gravity makes time go slower, as per General Relativity. But that's not really the point: if the speed of time changes, then we'll never notice it's changed because we'll be inside it, and it'll seem just as fast as it always has. The only way we can tell it's changed is by comparing ourselves to other galaxies much farther away from us. This might actually explain Dark Energy, and why things appear to be speeding up away from us faster. If our local universe is slowing down in time, then the distant universe would look like it's speeding up in time. * * * * *Yousuf Khan If a million galaxies were inside of a super massive black hole event horizon, then all time as we outsiders see it would be extremely slow or perhaps near zero for those BH/EH sequestered galaxies. If we are inside the event horizon of a BH, then the event horizon would be the edge of the universe: meaning somewhere near the CMB is our event horizon. So all galaxies that are in the visible universe are inside this event horizon, no matter how far away they are. However, the fact that galaxies that are more nearby seem to be moving much slower than galaxies that are farther away would indicate that we are all part of the blackhole's singularity. Every location inside the blackhole is its singularity. In other words, a billion years in our time might only be one year of age for those galaxies inside of the EH. *Perhaps the BH/EH could represent the egg that gives birth via polar jets spewing aether that condenses into ordinary matter and into the realm of fast time as we know it. I have no idea what you're talking about. But if we're inside a BH, we wouldn't even perceive any galaxies outside of it, they would be causally disconnected from us. * * * * Yousuf Khan Exactly why there could easily be a whole universe inside of a super massive black hole. |
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