Sorry: I don't have a clue what happened. Deleting one at time.

It appears that along with the drawing (a 646K TIFF file) you posted two
more TIFF files 64MB and 47MB in size (which I haven't looked at so I
don't really know if they *are* TIFFs). There may be more - I just
looked what came though Easynews' decoder.

Sorry - but deleting won't help very much as most news servers don't
honor cancels.

--
I recommend Macs to my friends, and Windows machines
to those whom I don't mind billing by the hour

Asterix wrote:
It appears that along with the drawing (a 646K TIFF file) you posted two
more TIFF files 64MB and 47MB in size (which I haven't looked at so I
don't really know if they *are* TIFFs). There may be more - I just
looked what came though Easynews' decoder.

Sorry - but deleting won't help very much as most news servers don't
honor cancels.



Asterix:

Thanks for your remarks.

I managed to clear out all the bad message files. They were part of
overly large raster files, and either Verizon DSL or Mozilla Thunderbird
wouldn't transmit them and corrupted them. Prior to posting, however,
the files displayed properly in MicroStation V7 CAD and Irfanview.

I managed to stop the writing process for the corrupt files by rebooting
the locked machine. Otherwise, I might still be here deleting.

I wanted the larger file to be posted in order to gain the higher
resolution for text legibility. I'll have to find a new way to make the
..tif files. Possibly PDFs for that purpose.

I know nothing regarding other news servers - sorry if there were problems.

Ralph Hertle

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:58:31 GMT, Ralph Hertle
wrote:

I know nothing regarding other news servers - sorry if there were problems.


Any deletions of news articles were local to your computer. Verizon's
news servers do not honor cancel messages. This has been a policy on
many news servers for nearly two years since there were cancel-bot
wars deleting articles and generally making a mess of things until all
the news administrators simply reconfigured their servers to ignore
cancel messages. All 2263 of the posts still exist on Verizon's
servers.

Ralph Hertle wrote:
Asterix wrote:

It appears that along with the drawing (a 646K TIFF file) you posted two
more TIFF files 64MB and 47MB in size (which I haven't looked at so I
don't really know if they *are* TIFFs). There may be more - I just
looked what came though Easynews' decoder.

Sorry - but deleting won't help very much as most news servers don't
honor cancels.



Asterix:

Thanks for your remarks.

I managed to clear out all the bad message files. They were part of
overly large raster files, and either Verizon DSL or Mozilla Thunderbird
wouldn't transmit them and corrupted them. Prior to posting, however,
the files displayed properly in MicroStation V7 CAD and Irfanview.

I managed to stop the writing process for the corrupt files by rebooting
the locked machine. Otherwise, I might still be here deleting.

I wanted the larger file to be posted in order to gain the higher
resolution for text legibility. I'll have to find a new way to make the
.tif files. Possibly PDFs for that purpose.

I know nothing regarding other news servers - sorry if there were problems.

Ralph Hertle


NEVER POST TIF
You will get hate mail forever for that.

Your huge post knocked 3 months of other folks real posts off my server.
Anything sent prior to your post was deleted as was nearly all but the
last couple hundred files of your post. The rest exceeded the allocated
disk space the server has for this group. Don't hog the server for
yourself and knocks others off.

Post JPG and keep the post size under 1 meg. If over say about 500k put
a note in the subject file that it is a large file.

I live in the woods where high speed is unavailable and even satellite
is slow and expensive (Only twice dialup speed) It takes me 3 minutes
just to download a 1 meg file. A typical TIF is far larger than that
and no way I'd ever even try.

JPG has all the resolution you need. News posts are actually sent and
received as 7 bit files with parity. So they are quite a bit larger
than the same file posted on the net. Don't make things worse by
posting TIF PLEASE. I'll just build a kill file filter for your posts
as will most others. But the worst part is that your large files may,
indeed this one did, knock someone else off my server before I get a
chance to see it. I can't do a thing about that except add to my
already high internet cost by subscribing to a pay news feed.

If you just must a TIF available post it to the net then give us the URL.

Rick


--
Correct domain name is arvig and it is net not com. Prefix is correct.
Third character is a zero rather than a capital "Oh".

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:24:54 GMT, (Asterix)
wrote:


It appears that along with the drawing (a 646K TIFF file) you posted two
more TIFF files 64MB and 47MB in size (which I haven't looked at so I
don't really know if they *are* TIFFs). There may be more - I just
looked what came though Easynews' decoder.

Sorry - but deleting won't help very much as most news servers don't
honor cancels.

I opened the first of the two large files and saw a tiff of very high
resolution. I didn't see a small file.
--
This message has been brought to you by solar and wind power. Who needs the national grid?
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com

The average person over 50 will have spent 5 years waiting in lines.

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:58:31 GMT, Ralph Hertle
wrote:

Asterix wrote:
It appears that along with the drawing (a 646K TIFF file) you posted two
more TIFF files 64MB and 47MB in size (which I haven't looked at so I
don't really know if they *are* TIFFs). There may be more - I just
looked what came though Easynews' decoder.

Sorry - but deleting won't help very much as most news servers don't
honor cancels.



Asterix:

Thanks for your remarks.

I managed to clear out all the bad message files. They were part of
overly large raster files, and either Verizon DSL or Mozilla Thunderbird
wouldn't transmit them and corrupted them. Prior to posting, however,
the files displayed properly in MicroStation V7 CAD and Irfanview.

The big files you posted were not corrupted. I can view them just
fine.

I managed to stop the writing process for the corrupt files by rebooting
the locked machine. Otherwise, I might still be here deleting.

I wanted the larger file to be posted in order to gain the higher
resolution for text legibility. I'll have to find a new way to make the
.tif files. Possibly PDFs for that purpose.

I know nothing regarding other news servers - sorry if there were problems.

Ralph Hertle
--
This message has been brought to you by solar and wind power. Who needs the national grid?
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com

Lawyers should never ask a Southern grandma a question if they aren't prepared for the answer.
In a trial, a Southern small-town prosecuting attorney called his first witness, a grand motherly, elderly woman to the stand.
He approached her and asked, "Mrs. Jones, do you know me?"
She responded, "Why, yes, I do know you, Mr. Williams.
I've known you since you were a young boy, and frankly, you've been a big disappointment to me.
You lie, you cheat on your wife, and you manipulate people and talk about them behind their backs.
You think you're a big shot when you haven't the brains to realize you never will amount to anything more than a two-bit paper pusher Yes, I know you."
The lawyer was stunned!
Not knowing what else to do, he pointed across the room and asked, "Mrs. Jones, do you know the defence attorney?"
She again replied, "Why, yes, I do. I've known Mr. Bradley since he was a youngster, too.
He's lazy, bigoted, and he has a drinking problem.
He can't build a normal relationship with anyone and his law practice is one of the worst in the entire state.
Not to mention he cheated on his wife with three different women.
One of them was your wife. Yes, I know him."
The defense attorney almost died.
The judge asked both counselors to approach the bench and, in a very quiet voice, said, "If either of you idiots asks her if she knows me, I'll send you to the electric chair."

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:12:49 GMT, Geoff wrote:

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:58:31 GMT, Ralph Hertle
wrote:

I know nothing regarding other news servers - sorry if there were problems.


Any deletions of news articles were local to your computer. Verizon's
news servers do not honor cancel messages.

I saw the cancel messages, but my newsserver just shows the cancel
messages, it doesn't do anything upon reading them.

This has been a policy on
many news servers for nearly two years since there were cancel-bot
wars deleting articles and generally making a mess of things until all
the news administrators simply reconfigured their servers to ignore
cancel messages. All 2263 of the posts still exist on Verizon's
servers.
--
This message has been brought to you by solar and wind power. Who needs the national grid?
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com

How do you embarrass an archeologist?
Give him a used tampon and ask him which period it came from.

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:20:22 -0600, Rick Johnson
wrote:



Ralph Hertle wrote:
Asterix wrote:

It appears that along with the drawing (a 646K TIFF file) you posted two
more TIFF files 64MB and 47MB in size (which I haven't looked at so I
don't really know if they *are* TIFFs). There may be more - I just
looked what came though Easynews' decoder.

Sorry - but deleting won't help very much as most news servers don't
honor cancels.



Asterix:

Thanks for your remarks.

I managed to clear out all the bad message files. They were part of
overly large raster files, and either Verizon DSL or Mozilla Thunderbird
wouldn't transmit them and corrupted them. Prior to posting, however,
the files displayed properly in MicroStation V7 CAD and Irfanview.

I managed to stop the writing process for the corrupt files by rebooting
the locked machine. Otherwise, I might still be here deleting.

I wanted the larger file to be posted in order to gain the higher
resolution for text legibility. I'll have to find a new way to make the
.tif files. Possibly PDFs for that purpose.

I know nothing regarding other news servers - sorry if there were problems.

Ralph Hertle


NEVER POST TIF
You will get hate mail forever for that.

Your huge post knocked 3 months of other folks real posts off my server.
Anything sent prior to your post was deleted as was nearly all but the
last couple hundred files of your post. The rest exceeded the allocated
disk space the server has for this group. Don't hog the server for
yourself and knocks others off.

Get yourself a proper server. Mine keeps the last x days of posts,
where x is different for text, binary, and multipart binary. X does
not change just cause there happens to be more posts that day in a
particular group. What an insane way of doing things!

Post JPG and keep the post size under 1 meg. If over say about 500k put
a note in the subject file that it is a large file.

But yes, jpg is just as good as tif.

I live in the woods where high speed is unavailable and even satellite
is slow and expensive (Only twice dialup speed) It takes me 3 minutes
just to download a 1 meg file. A typical TIF is far larger than that
and no way I'd ever even try.

What is the distance from your phone exchange to your house? They can
send it a long long way nowadays. It gets longer every year with new
technology.

JPG has all the resolution you need. News posts are actually sent and
received as 7 bit files with parity. So they are quite a bit larger
than the same file posted on the net.

Not if you use yenc. And most servers do 8 bit now.

Don't make things worse by
posting TIF PLEASE. I'll just build a kill file filter for your posts
as will most others. But the worst part is that your large files may,
indeed this one did, knock someone else off my server before I get a
chance to see it. I can't do a thing about that except add to my
already high internet cost by subscribing to a pay news feed.

Oh you're on a freebie one. That explains it. How can you put up
with such rubbish? Do you have a telescope? I bet it cost billions
of times more than a news subscription. Mine starts at $6 a month.

If you just must a TIF available post it to the net then give us the URL.
--
This message has been brought to you by solar and wind power. Who needs the national grid?
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com

Don't take life so seriously, it's not permanent.

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:20:22 -0600, Rick Johnson
wrote:



Ralph Hertle wrote:

Asterix wrote:


It appears that along with the drawing (a 646K TIFF file) you posted two
more TIFF files 64MB and 47MB in size (which I haven't looked at so I
don't really know if they *are* TIFFs). There may be more - I just
looked what came though Easynews' decoder.

Sorry - but deleting won't help very much as most news servers don't
honor cancels.



Asterix:

Thanks for your remarks.

I managed to clear out all the bad message files. They were part of
overly large raster files, and either Verizon DSL or Mozilla Thunderbird
wouldn't transmit them and corrupted them. Prior to posting, however,
the files displayed properly in MicroStation V7 CAD and Irfanview.

I managed to stop the writing process for the corrupt files by rebooting
the locked machine. Otherwise, I might still be here deleting.

I wanted the larger file to be posted in order to gain the higher
resolution for text legibility. I'll have to find a new way to make the
.tif files. Possibly PDFs for that purpose.

I know nothing regarding other news servers - sorry if there were problems.

Ralph Hertle


NEVER POST TIF
You will get hate mail forever for that.

Your huge post knocked 3 months of other folks real posts off my server.
Anything sent prior to your post was deleted as was nearly all but the
last couple hundred files of your post. The rest exceeded the allocated
disk space the server has for this group. Don't hog the server for
yourself and knocks others off.


Get yourself a proper server. Mine keeps the last x days of posts,
where x is different for text, binary, and multipart binary. X does
not change just cause there happens to be more posts that day in a
particular group. What an insane way of doing things!


Post JPG and keep the post size under 1 meg. If over say about 500k put
a note in the subject file that it is a large file.


But yes, jpg is just as good as tif.


I live in the woods where high speed is unavailable and even satellite
is slow and expensive (Only twice dialup speed) It takes me 3 minutes
just to download a 1 meg file. A typical TIF is far larger than that
and no way I'd ever even try.


What is the distance from your phone exchange to your house? They can
send it a long long way nowadays. It gets longer every year with new
technology.


JPG has all the resolution you need. News posts are actually sent and
received as 7 bit files with parity. So they are quite a bit larger
than the same file posted on the net.


Not if you use yenc. And most servers do 8 bit now.


Don't make things worse by
posting TIF PLEASE. I'll just build a kill file filter for your posts
as will most others. But the worst part is that your large files may,
indeed this one did, knock someone else off my server before I get a
chance to see it. I can't do a thing about that except add to my
already high internet cost by subscribing to a pay news feed.


Oh you're on a freebie one. That explains it. How can you put up
with such rubbish? Do you have a telescope? I bet it cost billions
of times more than a news subscription. Mine starts at $6 a month.


If you just must a TIF available post it to the net then give us the URL.

If you ever even looked at this news group before posting to find out
what goes on here you'd know if I had a telescope and you'd know not to
post large TIF files.

I put up with it because it is ALL THAT IS AVAILABLE TO ME. Considering
the circumstances it isn't rubbish at all. There is no alternative
that doesn't cost over $100 per month. With only 19 official year
around residents in my 36 square mile township, of which only 8 actually
are here for December through February, getting anything beyond dialup
is amazing considering their capital costs per customer! I know of only
one other that they serve in this township and I know everyone here.

I have a choice of this one service that's not dialup and it is only
twice dialup speed. It's a small locally owned mom and pop operation.
They normally don't carry ANY image alt sites at all but I got them to
carry this one under the rules you find so stupid. It was that or a pay
service. Pay news services are available but I'm already at my budget
limit. This one normally holds 6 months of this group, it went back to
mid June until your post wiped everything out. So the "stupid rules"
work quite well giving a retention period far beyond most ISP news
servers, even the pay ones, for a non text news group -- until someone
hogs the available server space that is.

Rick
--
Correct domain name is arvig and it is net not com. Prefix is correct.
Third character is a zero rather than a capital "Oh".