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Old December 21st 03, 10:58 PM
Roy Tony
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I'm new to this group.
I'd like to point out an error in the January 2004 issue of Discover
Magazine (Vol, 25 No. 01) titled Columbia and the year of Flight. The
article says the last words radioed by Rick D. Husband was 'Roger, uh'
This is incorrect.

The actual words spoken were, 'Roger, uh buh'. I remember hearing these
exatct words when news media first played it after the Columbia
disater. A clip of it is available on the Net.

It looks like he said, "Roger," and then though about something for a
second during which caused him to say the next word: 'uh' or 'err'. Right
after 'uh' or 'err', we hear him say "bu..." or "buh...". Although there
is little space between the words 'uh' and 'buh' there are nevertheless
two different words. I've come across several newspapers and magazines
that have made this same mistake.

With a tragedies such as these I think it's important every tiny details
is correct.

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Old December 22nd 03, 01:03 AM
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Roy Tony wrote:

I'm new to this group.
I'd like to point out an error in the January 2004 issue of Discover
Magazine (Vol, 25 No. 01) titled Columbia and the year of Flight. The
article says the last words radioed by Rick D. Husband was 'Roger, uh'
This is incorrect.

The actual words spoken were, 'Roger, uh buh'. I remember hearing these
exatct words when news media first played it after the Columbia
disater. A clip of it is available on the Net.

It looks like he said, "Roger," and then though about something for a
second during which caused him to say the next word: 'uh' or 'err'. Right
after 'uh' or 'err', we hear him say "bu..." or "buh...". Although there
is little space between the words 'uh' and 'buh' there are nevertheless
two different words. I've come across several newspapers and magazines
that have made this same mistake.

With a tragedies such as these I think it's important every tiny details
is correct.


Well, this throws the whole situation into a completely different
light! Hey, conspiracy theorists, where are you when we need you!

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Old December 22nd 03, 04:09 AM
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Default error in Discover Magazine

Roy Tony writes:

I'm new to this group.
I'd like to point out an error in the January 2004 issue of Discover
Magazine (Vol, 25 No. 01) titled Columbia and the year of Flight. The
article says the last words radioed by Rick D. Husband was 'Roger, uh'
This is incorrect.

The actual words spoken were, 'Roger, uh buh'. I remember hearing these
exatct words when news media first played it after the Columbia
disater. A clip of it is available on the Net.

It looks like he said, "Roger," and then though about something for a
second during which caused him to say the next word: 'uh' or 'err'. Right
after 'uh' or 'err', we hear him say "bu..." or "buh...". Although there
is little space between the words 'uh' and 'buh' there are nevertheless
two different words. I've come across several newspapers and magazines
that have made this same mistake.

With a tragedies such as these I think it's important every tiny details
is correct.


Well, if you want to be excrutiatingly correct, you should say it SOUNDS
like, not it LOOKS like, and we don't know what were the last words he
RADIOED, only what was received, and "bu" or "buh" aren't WORDS in the
language he was speaking.

Anyway, welcome to the group.
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Old December 23rd 03, 01:30 AM
Andrew Gray
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Default error in Discover Magazine

In article , Chris Jones wrote:

With a tragedies such as these I think it's important every tiny details
is correct.


Well, if you want to be excrutiatingly correct, you should say it SOUNDS
like, not it LOOKS like, and we don't know what were the last words he
RADIOED, only what was received, and "bu" or "buh" aren't WORDS in the
language he was speaking.


However, "bu" or "buh" can reasonably be assumed to be word fragments -
it's certainly not a common thing to say - whilst "uh" is almost
certainly just "filler" (y'know, um, mouth makes noise whilst brain
functions)

The CAIB report has "Roger, [cut off in mid word]...", FWIW.

I don't see there being any significant problem with a slight blurring
over what exact syllable was the last one downlinked; we know he said
"Roger", paused, and was beginning to say something else. "Roger, uh,"
gets this through just as well as "Roger, uh, bu-", without having to
deviate on a brief explanation of "buh".

YMMV. I don't feel it detracts from the overall accuracy of the document
in any way that's worth getting het up over :-)

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Old January 1st 04, 06:17 AM
Roy Tony
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Default error in Discover Magazine


It seems it's very easy to make mistakes on such short bits of
conversations. Even this website:

http://home.mindspring.com/~t.whicker/

didn't correctly type out what was Houston actualy said. The website left
out the word 'we'. For example near the bottom there's a 1 minute raw
audio where we hear Houston saying "and Columbia, Houston, we see your
tire pressure messages and WE did not copy your last.." is more correct.

At least the 'Roger, uh, buh' is correct.

Roy Tony wrote:
I'm new to this group.
I'd like to point out an error in the January 2004 issue of Discover
Magazine (Vol, 25 No. 01) titled Columbia and the year of Flight. The
article says the last words radioed by Rick D. Husband was 'Roger, uh'
This is incorrect.


The actual words spoken were, 'Roger, uh buh'. I remember hearing these
exatct words when news media first played it after the Columbia
disater. A clip of it is available on the Net.


It looks like he said, "Roger," and then though about something for a
second during which caused him to say the next word: 'uh' or 'err'. Right
after 'uh' or 'err', we hear him say "bu..." or "buh...". Although there
is little space between the words 'uh' and 'buh' there are nevertheless
two different words. I've come across several newspapers and magazines
that have made this same mistake.


With a tragedies such as these I think it's important every tiny details
is correct.


--
Tony
Vancouver Canada.


--
Tony

 




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