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The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago - the planets were born from the solar wind of the red giant sun.
Hi, The sun energy source is not fusion. The sun and other stars are heated by magnetic fields from the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy. With this idea it is possible to trace the formation of the solar system. The sun and stars formed separately. First the sun formed and then after some time the planets formed. Red giants are not dieing stars. Stars fluctuate all the time from being a red giant to being a regular star. The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago as evident from meteorite age. The solar planets formed from the strong solar wind of the red giant sun. For more details read the article: http://www.philica.com/display_artic...article_id=210 http://www.pixelphase.com/sun/solarsystem.pdf Abstract How the solar system formed, is a puzzle that challenged scientists for many centuries. The current accepted theory is the Solar Nebula Hypothesis originated by Kant and Laplace in the 18th century. In reference 1 it was suggested that the sun energy source is not fusion but magnetic fields from the center of the galaxy. The Solar nebula Hypothesis cannot coexist with a sun powered by magnetic fields. As shown on reference 4, those magnetic fields create mass that slowly increase the mass of the sun. The sun is growing not from dust from the interstellar space but from synthesis of new particles in the sun interior. The sun and the planets formed separately, the sun came first and then the planets follow. In the standard solar model stars are turned into red giants when the hydrogen in their core is depleted and the energy production stop. Stars do not work on fusion, but on magnetic fields, so they turn into a red giant when their energy supply from the magnetic field is stopped. Stars that have a very long Maunder minimum, for tens of million of years, in which their stellar cycle is weak, will turn into a red giant. The exoplanet search programs found that stars with planets have higher metallicity compared to stars without planets. The metallicity of a star depends on its mass. Massive stars have higher pressure and temperature in their core that increase the fusion rate of heavy elements. Stars with planet, that show higher metallicity, had higher mass in the past that created the high metallicity. They went through a significant mass loss that decreased their mass but did not change the high metallicity. Those stars significant mass loss occur when they turned into red giants. Red giants have strong stellar wind that disperses the star outer layers into interstellar space. This stellar wind creates comets that form planets around the star. The high metallicity of the sun indicates that it was a red giant. The solar planets where born from the solar wind of the red giant sun. The solar system shows many evidences in support of an ancient red giant sun. The energy calculation in reference 4 suggests that stars are slowly growing by converting the energy from the magnetic fields to mass. The gradual mass increase indicates that more massive stars are also older, so according to the standard solar model there is a mix up between older and younger stars. Older stars are not the smaller stars like red dwarfs but the heavier stars like blue giants. The idea that stars are slowly growing from small sizes, and the fact that the latest exoplanet search programs found large number of exoplanets, leads to the conclusion that stars originate from planets. The development steps leading to the creation of stars from planets include: growth of the planet by cold accretion of comets and asteroids; separation of the planet from the star; magnetic ignition of the planet when it reaches the size of a brown dwarf; and growth of the star by conversion of the energy from the magnetic fields to mass. Regards, Dan Bar-Zohar |
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The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago - the planets wereborn from the solar wind of the red giant sun.
On 11/12/10 10:02 AM, Dan BarZohar wrote:
Hi Sam, The pp-chain and the standard solar model are theory not observation or evidence. The sun convert energy to mass, this conversion produce both electron neutrino and muon neutrino. http://www.philica.com/display_artic...article_id=126 It is very easy to disprove the solar nebula hypothesis and because of that it was abandoned at the beginning of the 20th century. Can you find any evidence in the solar systems that disprove the idea that the solar planet were born from the solar wind of the red giant sun. Regards, Dan Bar Zohar Observables include: o neutrino energies coming from the core of the sun o solar luminosity as a function of wavelength o solar mass o solar vibrational data (from Doppler) o solar surface activity o cratering record on solid solar system bodies o meteorite chemistry and ages o observation of solar disks in stellar nurseries Just to name a few. There are no observations of red giant phase occurring before a star becomes a main sequence star. |
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The sun was a red giant 4.6 billion years ago - the planets wereborn from the solar wind of the red giant sun.
On Nov 12, 8:04*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 11/12/10 10:02 AM, Dan BarZohar wrote: Hi Sam, The pp-chain and the standard solar model are theory not observation or evidence. The sun convert energy to mass, this conversion produce both electron neutrino and muon neutrino. http://www.philica.com/display_artic...article_id=126 It is very easy to disprove the solar nebula hypothesis and because of that it was abandoned at the beginning of the 20th century. Can you find any evidence in the solar systems that disprove the idea that the solar planet were born from the solar wind of the red giant sun. Regards, Dan Bar Zohar * *Observables include: * * *o neutrino energies coming from the core of the sun * * *o solar luminosity as a function of wavelength * * *o solar mass * * *o solar vibrational data (from Doppler) * * *o solar surface activity * * *o cratering record on solid solar system bodies * * *o meteorite chemistry and ages * * *o observation of solar disks in stellar nurseries * *Just to name a few. * *There are no observations of red giant phase occurring before * *a star becomes a main sequence star. o neutrino energies coming from the core of the sun The neutrinos from the sun are the result of conversion of energy to mass. The muon neutrino are not a result of neutrino oscillation but are produced inside the sun by reaction of the second family of the standard particle model. o solar luminosity as a function of wavelength The sun luminosity is a black body radiation and it cannot identify the energy source of the sun. The heat and the energy source could be magnetic fields and the sun will still produce the same luminosity. o solar mass The sun mass is from conversion of energy to mass see calculation. http://www.philica.com/display_artic...article_id=208 o solar vibrational data (from Doppler) Helioseismology show that there are plasma belts iside the sun those plasma belt are are created by the magnetic fields of the solar cycle. http://www.philica.com/display_artic...article_id=149 o solar surface activity All the sun surface activity is magnetic so it makes sense that the sun is powered by magnetic fields. o cratering record on solid solar system bodies The cratering on the moon, mars and mercury is from falling comets and asteroids. 4.6 billions years ago the sun was a red giant. Red giants have strong stellar wind. The stellar wind is condensing far from the star or sun near the Kuiper belt and it forms comets. The comets then fall to the planets and produce craters. o meteorite chemistry and ages The abundance of the meteorites and chondrules fit perfectly the sun abundance, because the meteorites, asteroids and comets were created from the solar wind. The meteorites have an age of 4.6 billion years because they were created by the red giant sun at that time. Meteorites also carry short lived isotopes and those can only be created by a red giant sun. If the short lived isotopes were from external source they would decay before reaching the solar system. o observation of solar disks in stellar nurseries Those are debris disk from collisions of planets and asteroids or bow shocks from collisions of stellar winds of two stars. Protoplanetary disks of blue giants were never found despite an extensive search. There are no observations of red giant phase occurring before a star becomes a main sequence star. It takes millions of years. Some of the red giants are variable and there luminosity change very fast. Regards, Dan Bar Zohar |
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