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Old June 19th 07, 04:49 AM posted to alt.talk.creationism,sci.physics,sci.math,alt.atheism,sci.astro
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Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007

JERUSALEM (AP) -- Three-century-old manuscripts by Isaac Newton
calculating the exact date of the apocalypse, detailing the precise
dimensions of the ancient temple in Jerusalem and interpreting
passages of the Bible -- exhibited this week for the first time -- lay
bare the little-known religious intensity of a man many consider
history's greatest scientist.

Newton, who died 280 years ago, is known for laying much of the
groundwork for modern physics, astronomy, math and optics. But in a
new Jerusalem exhibit, he appears as a scholar of deep faith who also
found time to write on Jewish law -- even penning a few phrases in
careful Hebrew letters -- and combing the Old Testament's Book of
Daniel for clues about the world's end.

The documents, purchased by a Jewish scholar at a Sotheby's auction in
London in 1936, have been kept in safes at Israel's national library
in Jerusalem since 1969. Available for decades only to a small number
of scholars, they have never before been shown to the public.

In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.

"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner," Newton
wrote. However, he added, "This I mention not to assert when the time
of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of
fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by
doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their
predictions fail."

In another document, Newton interpreted biblical prophecies to mean
that the Jews would return to the Holy Land before the world ends. The
end of days will see "the ruin of the wicked nations, the end of
weeping and of all troubles, the return of the Jews captivity and
their setting up a flourishing and everlasting Kingdom," he posited.

The exhibit also includes treatises on daily practice in the Jewish
temple in Jerusalem. In one document, Newton discussed the exact
dimensions of the temple -- its plans mirrored the arrangement of the
cosmos, he believed -- and sketched it. Another paper contains words
in Hebrew, including a sentence taken from the Jewish prayerbook.

Yemima Ben-Menahem, one of the exhibit's curators, said the papers
show Newton's conviction that important knowledge was hiding in
ancient texts.

"He believed there was wisdom in the world that got lost. He thought
it was coded, and that by studying things like the dimensions of the
temple, he could decode it," she said.

The Newton papers, Ben-Menahem said, also complicate the idea that
science is diametrically opposed to religion. "These documents show a
scientist guided by religious fervor, by a desire to see God's actions
in the world," she said.

More prosaic documents on display show Newton keeping track of his
income and expenses while a scholar at Cambridge and later, as master
of the Royal Mint, negotiating with a group of miners from Devon and
Cornwall about the price of the tin they supplied to Queen Anne.

The archives of Hebrew University in Jerusalem include a 1940 letter
from Albert Einstein to Abraham Shalom Yahuda, the collector who
purchased the papers a year earlier.

Newton's religious writings, Einstein wrote, provide "a variety of
sketches and ongoing changes that give us a most interesting look into
the mental laboratory of this unique thinker."

Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science....ap/index.html

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666 wrote:
Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007

JERUSALEM (AP) -- Three-century-old manuscripts by Isaac Newton
calculating the exact date of the apocalypse, detailing the precise
dimensions of the ancient temple in Jerusalem and interpreting
passages of the Bible -- exhibited this week for the first time -- lay
bare the little-known religious intensity of a man many consider
history's greatest scientist.

Newton, who died 280 years ago, is known for laying much of the
groundwork for modern physics, astronomy, math and optics. But in a
new Jerusalem exhibit, he appears as a scholar of deep faith who also
found time to write on Jewish law -- even penning a few phrases in
careful Hebrew letters -- and combing the Old Testament's Book of
Daniel for clues about the world's end.

The documents, purchased by a Jewish scholar at a Sotheby's auction in
London in 1936, have been kept in safes at Israel's national library
in Jerusalem since 1969. Available for decades only to a small number
of scholars, they have never before been shown to the public.

In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.

"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner," Newton
wrote. However, he added, "This I mention not to assert when the time
of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of
fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by
doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their
predictions fail."


Just another open-ended projection: the year 2060 or later, no time
certain or even a time frame!

It's all baloney.

RCL
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Rich Corinthian Leather writes:

666 wrote:
Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007

JERUSALEM (AP) -- Three-century-old manuscripts by Isaac Newton
calculating the exact date of the apocalypse, detailing the precise
dimensions of the ancient temple in Jerusalem and interpreting
passages of the Bible -- exhibited this week for the first time -- lay
bare the little-known religious intensity of a man many consider
history's greatest scientist.

Newton, who died 280 years ago, is known for laying much of the
groundwork for modern physics, astronomy, math and optics. But in a
new Jerusalem exhibit, he appears as a scholar of deep faith who also
found time to write on Jewish law -- even penning a few phrases in
careful Hebrew letters -- and combing the Old Testament's Book of
Daniel for clues about the world's end.

The documents, purchased by a Jewish scholar at a Sotheby's auction in
London in 1936, have been kept in safes at Israel's national library
in Jerusalem since 1969. Available for decades only to a small number
of scholars, they have never before been shown to the public.

In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.


He's right so far...

"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner," Newton
wrote. However, he added, "This I mention not to assert when the time
of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of
fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by
doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their
predictions fail."


Just another open-ended projection: the year 2060 or later, no time
certain or even a time frame!

It's all baloney.


And what if he had predicted a precise date in 2060? Would you have
said it wasn't baloney?
--
Robert Israel
Department of Mathematics
http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel
University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2
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"666"
Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science....ap/index.html


Newton wrote many more pages on religion than he did on science. One title:
"On the Eleventh Horn of the Beast Seen by the Prophet Daniel". Pretty weird
it sounds to us, but in a sense it is inevitable that Newton would surprise
us, since he was absolutely the only one of his kind.
Newton wrote rather little on science after the age of 35, although he lived
to be 85.
I like how one person summed up Newton, more or less like so: he was not
really the first of the great modern scientists, but rather the last of the
medeival wonder-workers.
LH


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On Jun 18, 11:16?pm, Robert Israel
wrote:
Rich Corinthian Leather writes:





666 wrote:
Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007


JERUSALEM (AP) -- Three-century-old manuscripts by Isaac Newton
calculating the exact date of the apocalypse, detailing the precise
dimensions of the ancient temple in Jerusalem and interpreting
passages of the Bible -- exhibited this week for the first time -- lay
bare the little-known religious intensity of a man many consider
history's greatest scientist.


Newton, who died 280 years ago, is known for laying much of the
groundwork for modern physics, astronomy, math and optics. But in a
new Jerusalem exhibit, he appears as a scholar of deep faith who also
found time to write on Jewish law -- even penning a few phrases in
careful Hebrew letters -- and combing the Old Testament's Book of
Daniel for clues about the world's end.


The documents, purchased by a Jewish scholar at a Sotheby's auction in
London in 1936, have been kept in safes at Israel's national library
in Jerusalem since 1969. Available for decades only to a small number
of scholars, they have never before been shown to the public.


In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.


He's right so far...


How do you know? What if the End Times
have already started? They're going to
last a thousand years so there's still
plenty of time for the rivers to turn
to blood. What if the Rapture has
already taken place and God simply
removed all memory of it from your mind?

Of course, if you're still here, it
means you aren't one of the Elect.


"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner," Newton
wrote. However, he added, "This I mention not to assert when the time
of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of
fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by
doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their
predictions fail."


Just another open-ended projection: the year 2060 or later, no time
certain or even a time frame!


It's all baloney.


And what if he had predicted a precise date in 2060? Would you have
said it wasn't baloney?


Sure. Newton was a heretic, he used
the book of Daniel instead of Revelations
(which everyone knows superceeded all
prior prophesies).

So everything Newton had to say was baloney.

--
Robert Israel
Department of Mathematics http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel
University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2


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On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:49:34 -0700, 666 wrote:

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alt.atheism. You ain't.
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Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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On Jun 18, 11:03 pm, Rich Corinthian Leather
wrote:
Just another open-ended projection: the year 2060 or later, no time
certain or even a time frame!


That's not open-ended. What is states is precise: namely that the
world will NOT end before 2060.

It's all baloney.


Both it and you are wrong. It's not wrong because it's "baloney", but
because we're already close to having the **** hit the fan,
particularly with everybody and their sibling getting nukes;
extremists of all ideologies and religions coming to full bloom; men
the world over losing their sense of direction (e.g. women are now the
majority in college-level education worldwide filling the vacuum left
behind by males who have dropped out, in some places (like the Middle
East) thoroughly dominating the ranks of the sciences and majority of
fields; they are becoming and have become the majority of the ranks of
the managers and professions throughout the developed world (including
the US) with males nowhere to be found (e.g. take a look at the early
morning newscasts in the US); suicides (particularly amongst males)
have risen prominently worldwide since the early to mid 20th century
to the point that the WHO has now sounded the alarm bells;
testosterone poisoning has apparently pervaded the political landscape
amidst the rise of the collective insanity and atativism of this half
of the human race)

If the **** hits the fan, there's no way this will linger all the way
out to 2060. Everything is already coming to a head now. Half the
human race is already suffering all the symptoms, collectively, of
cabin fever or restlessness of the same sort that afflicts someone
who's been cooped up for too long, without an exit -- the Rapa Nui
Syndrome or Easter Island Syndome is already upon us. Eventually, the
other half will succumb, as well. Women are not taking over, but
merely filling in the vacuum left behind by the faltering half of the
human race. But they, too, will eventually falter.

The threshold that the world succeeds (or fails) to get through is
already upon us. There's no way the world will end without it
happening no later than 2020.

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On Jun 18, 9:49 pm, 666 wrote:
Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007

JERUSALEM (AP) -- Three-century-old manuscripts by Isaac Newton
calculating the exact date of the apocalypse, detailing the precise
dimensions of the ancient temple in Jerusalem and interpreting
passages of the Bible -- exhibited this week for the first time -- lay
bare the little-known religious intensity of a man many consider
history's greatest scientist.

Newton, who died 280 years ago, is known for laying much of the
groundwork for modern physics, astronomy, math and optics. But in a
new Jerusalem exhibit, he appears as a scholar of deep faith who also
found time to write on Jewish law -- even penning a few phrases in
careful Hebrew letters -- and combing the Old Testament's Book of
Daniel for clues about the world's end.

The documents, purchased by a Jewish scholar at a Sotheby's auction in
London in 1936, have been kept in safes at Israel's national library
in Jerusalem since 1969. Available for decades only to a small number
of scholars, they have never before been shown to the public.

In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.

"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner," Newton
wrote. However, he added, "This I mention not to assert when the time
of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of
fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by
doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their
predictions fail."

In another document, Newton interpreted biblical prophecies to mean
that the Jews would return to the Holy Land before the world ends. The
end of days will see "the ruin of the wicked nations, the end of
weeping and of all troubles, the return of the Jews captivity and
their setting up a flourishing and everlasting Kingdom," he posited.

The exhibit also includes treatises on daily practice in the Jewish
temple in Jerusalem. In one document, Newton discussed the exact
dimensions of the temple -- its plans mirrored the arrangement of the
cosmos, he believed -- and sketched it. Another paper contains words
in Hebrew, including a sentence taken from the Jewish prayerbook.

Yemima Ben-Menahem, one of the exhibit's curators, said the papers
show Newton's conviction that important knowledge was hiding in
ancient texts.

"He believed there was wisdom in the world that got lost. He thought
it was coded, and that by studying things like the dimensions of the
temple, he could decode it," she said.

The Newton papers, Ben-Menahem said, also complicate the idea that
science is diametrically opposed to religion. "These documents show a
scientist guided by religious fervor, by a desire to see God's actions
in the world," she said.

More prosaic documents on display show Newton keeping track of his
income and expenses while a scholar at Cambridge and later, as master
of the Royal Mint, negotiating with a group of miners from Devon and
Cornwall about the price of the tin they supplied to Queen Anne.

The archives of Hebrew University in Jerusalem include a 1940 letter
from Albert Einstein to Abraham Shalom Yahuda, the collector who
purchased the papers a year earlier.

Newton's religious writings, Einstein wrote, provide "a variety of
sketches and ongoing changes that give us a most interesting look into
the mental laboratory of this unique thinker."

Find this article at:http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science....ap/index.html


Well, the only way we'll know for sure whether or not
Newton was right is when 2060 rolls around...

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On Jun 19, 3:15 pm, wrote:
On Jun 18, 11:03 pm, Rich Corinthian Leather

wrote:
Just another open-ended projection: the year 2060 or later, no time
certain or even a time frame!


That's not open-ended. What is states is precise: namely that the
world will NOT end before 2060.

It's all baloney.


Both it and you are wrong. It's not wrong because it's "baloney", but
because we're already close to having the **** hit the fan,
particularly with everybody and their sibling getting nukes;
extremists of all ideologies and religions coming to full bloom; men
the world over losing their sense of direction (e.g. women are now the
majority in college-level education worldwide filling the vacuum left
behind by males who have dropped out, in some places (like the Middle
East) thoroughly dominating the ranks of the sciences and majority of
fields; they are becoming and have become the majority of the ranks of
the managers and professions throughout the developed world (including
the US) with males nowhere to be found (e.g. take a look at the early
morning newscasts in the US); suicides (particularly amongst males)
have risen prominently worldwide since the early to mid 20th century
to the point that the WHO has now sounded the alarm bells;
testosterone poisoning has apparently pervaded the political landscape
amidst the rise of the collective insanity and atativism of this half
of the human race)

If the **** hits the fan, there's no way this will linger all the way
out to 2060. Everything is already coming to a head now. Half the
human race is already suffering all the symptoms, collectively, of
cabin fever or restlessness of the same sort that afflicts someone
who's been cooped up for too long, without an exit -- the Rapa Nui
Syndrome or Easter Island Syndome is already upon us. Eventually, the
other half will succumb, as well. Women are not taking over, but
merely filling in the vacuum left behind by the faltering half of the
human race. But they, too, will eventually falter.

The threshold that the world succeeds (or fails) to get through is
already upon us. There's no way the world will end without it
happening no later than 2020.


Well, the world is about to hit rock bottom soon, yes, but I believe
that things will change then -- and we will begin to have peace. But
what sort of crap we must go through to get there I have no idea.

However, I don't think the world will end as in "bang, it's over", but
rather the present world that we know of will end, and something new
will replace it.

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On Jun 18, 11:09 pm, "Larry Hammick" wrote:
"666"

Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science....ap/index.html


Newton wrote many more pages on religion than he did on science. One title:
"On the Eleventh Horn of the Beast Seen by the Prophet Daniel". Pretty weird
it sounds to us, but in a sense it is inevitable that Newton would surprise
us, since he was absolutely the only one of his kind.
Newton wrote rather little on science after the age of 35, although he lived
to be 85.
I like how one person summed up Newton, more or less like so: he was not
really the first of the great modern scientists, but rather the last of the
medeival wonder-workers.
LH


You seem to think that scientists cannot be involved with
religion, that they must be cold, hard atheists with no
religion at all. Newton's theories *are* science, and
they are the basis for all the rest of physics, which has
been built on them. His religious belief does not change
their scientific validity and usefulness.

 




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