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Old October 30th 14, 02:05 PM posted to sci.astro
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Den torsdagen den 30:e oktober 2014 kl. 08:08:32 UTC+1 skrev Poutnik:
Dne 10/30/2014 v 12:59 AM napsal(a):


Well i am pretty sure that Ison was not antimatter because then in would had exploded already after entering the solar system.

But yet this object managed to plunge straight thru the sun?
How to explain it without using some exceptional exotic matter with stronger bonds then those we are aquainted with?
And the way it entered in a straight course set for the sun must be related to its mass?
It did not graze the sun it went straight thru it.

And that is weird.

No, it did not manage it.
What may happend was some surface visual effects,
rotating together with the Sun.

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Does the heliosphere have a charge if so is it a positive or negative charge?

And if so what is responsible for that charge?

If heliopshpere had a barrier or grid at the heliopause made up of positrons that would mean that any outgoing/incoming object would be ripped of its electrons to be annihilated by the positrons and depending upon the energy of the incoming proton there would be emitted alpha, beta and gamma coming in from that grid.

To me it seem if the *things* that travel thru space really was photons the light would all be mixed up, i mean if they really travelled for millions of light years from billions of sources would there not be interference.

Just a big blur making it impossible to see anything?

Isn't it more plausible that they travel like high energy particles "protons" and that our recorded wavelengths really from protons interacting with a positron grid/barrier at the heliopause? So the light we pick up is created locally? And the wavelength we pick up depend upon the energy of the particles that bombard the heliosphere?

That would explain the negative pressure and expansion of vaccua if it is only protons and high energy particles that have enough mass to pass by the heliosphere?

Thus dark matter really dark matter, once you pass the heliosphere the only light you pick up is from the protons that try to rip the pants of you.
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Old October 30th 14, 06:12 PM posted to sci.astro
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On 10/30/2014 02:05 PM, wrote:


Does the heliosphere have a charge if so is it a positive or negative charge?

And if so what is responsible for that charge?

If heliopshpere had a barrier or grid at the heliopause made up of positrons that would mean that any outgoing/incoming object would be ripped of its electrons to be annihilated by the positrons and depending upon the energy of the incoming proton there would be emitted alpha, beta and gamma coming in from that grid.

To me it seem if the *things* that travel thru space really was photons the light would all be mixed up, i mean if they really travelled for millions of light years from billions of sources would there not be interference.

Just a big blur making it impossible to see anything?

Isn't it more plausible that they travel like high energy particles "protons" and that our recorded wavelengths really from protons interacting with a positron grid/barrier at the heliopause? So the light we pick up is created locally? And the wavelength we pick up depend upon the energy of the particles that bombard the heliosphere?

That would explain the negative pressure and expansion of vaccua if it is only protons and high energy particles that have enough mass to pass by the heliosphere?

Thus dark matter really dark matter, once you pass the heliosphere the only light you pick up is from the protons that try to rip the pants of you.


Such ideas are easily refuted by observations.

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Old October 30th 14, 07:11 PM posted to sci.astro
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Den torsdagen den 30:e oktober 2014 kl. 18:45:04 UTC+1 skrev Sjouke Burry:
On 30.10.14 10:54, wrote:
Den torsdagen den 30:e oktober 2014 kl. 08:04:42 UTC+1 skrev Poutnik:
Dne 10/30/2014 v 12:49 AM
napsal(a):

If you bombarded a ball of bismuth with positrons what would happen would it explode or transmute?

There would be ongoing annihilation of electrons.
It would soon start attract electrons from other matter.
There can happen lightning discharge, leading to explosion.
The same can happen, if you bombard isolated matter by electrons.

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But if we suppose there are no free electrons or matter in the region the matter is occupying, only positron bombardment?

What would happen if you isolate it? It can not discharge? But it can transmute.

There would be nothing to bombard.
Without electrons and neutrons, no force in the world would
keep a bunch of protons together.
And if you employed neutrons, free neutrons have a half-life
of about 15 minutes,so that would also explode.
Only a neutron star or black hole can assert enough force
to keep those stable.
And those stars would not fit inside your lab.


I am quite certain ison was neither a blackhole nore a neutron star, so howto explain how it survived not grazing but plunging thru the sun?

The only thing that could explain it would be that it was a very dense matter totally different from the once we experience.

I realise that physic have not explanation for how that matter is hold together but yet it were.

How much mass would an object of protons need for the gravitational pull to overwin the repulsion from the electrons?

If earth would be stripped instaneous from all its elecrtons it would be alot of smaller. But would the mass be enough to keep the protons together?

The gravitational pull would also be alot stronger since more matter occupy a smaller space. Would the volume be bigger then 1 cubic km, what would the gravitation be upon the surface of that cubic km of protons?
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Old October 30th 14, 07:14 PM posted to sci.astro
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Den torsdagen den 30:e oktober 2014 kl. 18:12:40 UTC+1 skrev Poutnik:
On 10/30/2014 02:05 PM, wrote:


Does the heliosphere have a charge if so is it a positive or negative charge?

And if so what is responsible for that charge?

If heliopshpere had a barrier or grid at the heliopause made up of positrons that would mean that any outgoing/incoming object would be ripped of its electrons to be annihilated by the positrons and depending upon the energy of the incoming proton there would be emitted alpha, beta and gamma coming in from that grid.

To me it seem if the *things* that travel thru space really was photons the light would all be mixed up, i mean if they really travelled for millions of light years from billions of sources would there not be interference..

Just a big blur making it impossible to see anything?

Isn't it more plausible that they travel like high energy particles "protons" and that our recorded wavelengths really from protons interacting with a positron grid/barrier at the heliopause? So the light we pick up is created locally? And the wavelength we pick up depend upon the energy of the particles that bombard the heliosphere?

That would explain the negative pressure and expansion of vaccua if it is only protons and high energy particles that have enough mass to pass by the heliosphere?

Thus dark matter really dark matter, once you pass the heliosphere the only light you pick up is from the protons that try to rip the pants of you..


Such ideas are easily refuted by observations.

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Observations of what?
 




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