Heavy matter!

On 10/30/2014 07:11 PM, wrote:

I am quite certain ison was neither a blackhole nore a neutron star, so howto explain how it survived not grazing but plunging thru the sun?

Where is the observartion it was "plunging thru the Sun?"

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"Travelling at more than 200 miles per second, Ison passed 730,000 miles
above the sun's 6,000C surface on Thursday evening. This would have
heated the comet to almost 3,000°C, enough to vaporise rock as well as ice."

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...nter-sun-earth
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"Shortly after Comet ISON's discovery, the media reported that it might
become brighter than the full moon. However, as events transpired, it
never became bright enough to be readily visible to the naked eye.
Furthermore, it broke apart as it passed close to the Sun. Reports on 28
November 2013 (the day of perihelion passage)[11][12] indicated that
Comet ISON had partially or completely disintegrated due to the Sun's
heat and tidal forces. However, later that day CIOC (NASA Comet ISON
Observing Campaign) members discovered a coma-like feature, suggesting a
small fragment of it may have survived perihelion.[11][12][13][14][15]
On 29 November 2013, the coma dimmed to an apparent magnitude of 5.[16]
By the end of 30 November 2013, the coma had further faded to below
naked-eye visibility at magnitude 7.[17] On 1 December, the coma
continued to fade even further as it finished traversing the Solar and
Heliospheric Observatory's view.[18][19] On 2 December 2013, the CIOC
announced that Comet ISON had fully disintegrated.[20][21] The Hubble
Space Telescope failed to detect fragments of ISON on 18 December
2013.[22] On 8 May 2014, a detailed examination of the disintegration
was published, suggesting that the comet fully disintegrated hours
before perihelion.[23]"
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_ISON



The only thing that could explain it would be that it was a very dense matter totally different from the once we experience.


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Poutnik

A wise man guards words he says,
as they may say about him more, than he says about the subject.

Den torsdagen den 30:e oktober 2014 kl. 19:28:30 UTC+1 skrev Poutnik:
On 10/30/2014 07:11 PM, wrote:

I am quite certain ison was neither a blackhole nore a neutron star, so howto explain how it survived not grazing but plunging thru the sun?

Where is the observartion it was "plunging thru the Sun?"

------------
"Travelling at more than 200 miles per second, Ison passed 730,000 miles
above the sun's 6,000C surface on Thursday evening. This would have
heated the comet to almost 3,000°C, enough to vaporise rock as well as ice."

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...nter-sun-earth
------------------------

..........
"Shortly after Comet ISON's discovery, the media reported that it might
become brighter than the full moon. However, as events transpired, it
never became bright enough to be readily visible to the naked eye.
Furthermore, it broke apart as it passed close to the Sun. Reports on 28
November 2013 (the day of perihelion passage)[11][12] indicated that
Comet ISON had partially or completely disintegrated due to the Sun's
heat and tidal forces. However, later that day CIOC (NASA Comet ISON
Observing Campaign) members discovered a coma-like feature, suggesting a
small fragment of it may have survived perihelion.[11][12][13][14][15]
On 29 November 2013, the coma dimmed to an apparent magnitude of 5.[16]
By the end of 30 November 2013, the coma had further faded to below
naked-eye visibility at magnitude 7.[17] On 1 December, the coma
continued to fade even further as it finished traversing the Solar and
Heliospheric Observatory's view.[18][19] On 2 December 2013, the CIOC
announced that Comet ISON had fully disintegrated.[20][21] The Hubble
Space Telescope failed to detect fragments of ISON on 18 December
2013.[22] On 8 May 2014, a detailed examination of the disintegration
was published, suggesting that the comet fully disintegrated hours
before perihelion.[23]"
...........


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_ISON



The only thing that could explain it would be that it was a very dense matter totally different from the once we experience.


--
Poutnik

A wise man guards words he says,
as they may say about him more, than he says about the subject.

Well there is no photo from the angle it hit or from where it leaved, and since NASA use a dimmer over the solardisc one just can't absolute know.

But i would say it is pretty clear from the photography that it not just gently grace the corona of the sun nor passing in orbit. I would say it shows it plunge staight thru parts of sun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcROVqmF9SY

Dne 10/30/2014 v 7:52 PM napsal(a):


Well there is no photo from the angle it hit or from where it leaved, and since NASA use a dimmer over the solardisc one just can't absolute know.

But i would say it is pretty clear from the photography that it not just gently grace the corona of the sun nor passing in orbit. I would say it shows it plunge staight thru parts of sun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcROVqmF9SY

Your confidence to your conclusions is admirable... :-)

So if I shield you by obstacle before your house,
and then you appear on the backyard,
you can say you have passed through the walls. :-)

Ison perihelium was measured.

--
Poutnik

Dne 10/30/2014 v 8:47 PM Poutnik napsal(a):
Dne 10/30/2014 v 7:52 PM napsal(a):


Well there is no photo from the angle it hit or from where it leaved, and since NASA use a dimmer over the solardisc one just can't absolute know.

But i would say it is pretty clear from the photography that it not just gently grace the corona of the sun nor passing in orbit. I would say it shows it plunge staight thru parts of sun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcROVqmF9SY


Ison perihelium was measured.

It passed about 0,75 Sun diameter above the Sun.

Orbit

"Comet ISON came to perihelion (closest approach to the Sun) on 28
November 2013 at a distance of 0.0124 AU (1,860,000 km; 1,150,000 mi)
from the center point of the Sun.[2] Accounting for the solar radius of
695,500 km (432,200 mi), Comet ISON passed approximately 1,165,000 km
(724,000 mi) above the Sun's surface.[29]"

--
Poutnik

Den torsdagen den 30:e oktober 2014 kl. 20:47:40 UTC+1 skrev Poutnik:
Dne 10/30/2014 v 7:52 PM napsal(a):


Well there is no photo from the angle it hit or from where it leaved, and since NASA use a dimmer over the solardisc one just can't absolute know.

But i would say it is pretty clear from the photography that it not just gently grace the corona of the sun nor passing in orbit. I would say it shows it plunge staight thru parts of sun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcROVqmF9SY

Your confidence to your conclusions is admirable... :-)

So if I shield you by obstacle before your house,
and then you appear on the backyard,
you can say you have passed through the walls. :-)

Ison perihelium was measured.

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Poutnik

Certainly if i come out pushing debris to the right and left and have gained mass. Stopped by for a quicksnack in the refrigerator.