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The Roads To War And Economic Collapse
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
Prisonplanet.com November 24, 2011 November 23, 2011: The day before the Thanksgiving holiday brought three extraordinary news items. One was the report on the Republican presidential campaign debate. One was the Russian President’s statement about his country’s response to Washington’s missile bases surrounding his country. And one was the failure of a German government bond auction. As the presstitute media will not inform us of what any of this means, let me try. With the exception of Ron Paul, the only candidate in either party qualified to be the president of the US, the rest of the Republican candidates are even worse than Obama, a president who had the country behind him but sold out the American people to special interests. No newly elected president in memory, neither John F. Kennedy nor Ronald Reagan, had the extraordinary response to his election as Barack Obama. A record-breaking number of people braved the cold to witness his swearing in ceremony. The mall was filled for miles distant from the Capitol with Americans who could not see the ceremony except as televised on giant screens. Obama had convinced the electorate that he would end the wars, stop the violation of law by the US government, end the regime of illegal torture, close the torture prison of Guantanamo, and attend to the real needs of the American people rather than stuff the pockets of the military/security complex with taxpayers’ money. Once in office, Obama renewed and extended the Bush/Cheney/neoconservative wars. He validated the Bush regime’s assaults on the US Constitution. He left Wall Street in charge of US economic policy, he absolved the Bush regime of its crimes, and he assigned to the American people the financial cost necessary to preserve the economic welfare of the mega-rich. One would think such a totally failed president would be easy to defeat. Given an historic opportunity, the Republican Party has put before the electorate the most amazingly stupid and vile col- lection of prospects, with the exception of Ron Paul who does not have the party’s support, that Americans have ever seen. In the November 22 presidential “debate,” the candidates, with the exception of Ron Paul, revealed themselves as a collection of ignorant warmongers who support the police state. Gingrich and Cain said that Muslims “want to kill us all” and that “all of us will be in danger for the rest of out lives.” Bachmann said that the American puppet state, Pakistan, is “more than an existential threat.” Bachmann has no idea what is “more than an existential threat.” However, it sounded heavy, like an intellectual thing to say for the candidate who previously declared the long-defunct Soviet Union to be today’s threat to the US. Unfortunately for Americans and the world, the US electorate lacks the intelligence and awareness of their plight as denizens of a police state to elect Ron Paul, the last defender together with Rep. Dennis Kucinich of the US Constitution. Nevertheless, there would be a silver lining in one of the Republican morons being elected president of the “world’s only superpower.” Once the rest of the world realized that a war-crazed idiot had his or her finger on the nuclear button, the rest of the world would organize and close down the Washington horror before it destroys life on earth. Any sentient American who watched or read about the Republican presidential debate must wonder what there is to be thankful for as the national holiday approaches. The Russian government, which prefers to use its resources for the economy rather than for the military, has decided that it has been taking too many risks in the name of peace. The day before Thanksgiving, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said, in a televised address to the Russian people, that if Washington goes ahead with its planned missile bases surrounding Russia, Russia will respond with new nuclear missiles of its own, which will target the Amerikan bases and European capital cities. The President of Russia said that the Russian government has asked Washington for legally binding guarantees that the American missile bases are not intended as a threat to Russia, but that Washington has refused to give such guarantees. Medvedev’s statement is perplexing. What does he mean “if Washington goes ahead?” The American missile and radar bases are already in place. Russia is already surrounded. Is Medvedev just now aware of what is already in place? Russia’s and China’s slow response to Washington’s aggression can only be understood in the context of the two countries experience with communism. The sufferings of Russians and Chinese under communism was extreme, and the thinking part of those populations saw America as the ideal of political life. This delusion still controls the mentality of progressive thinkers in Russia and China. It might prove to be a disaster for Russia and China that the countries have citizens who are aligned with the US. Belief in Washington’s trustworthiness even pervades the Russian government, which apparently, according to Medvedev’s statement, would be reassured by a “legally binding guarantee” from Washington. After the massive lies told by Washington in the 21st century–”weapons of mass destruction,” “al Qaeda connections,” “Iranian nukes”–why would anyone put any credence in “a legally binding guarantee” from Washington. The guarantee would mean nothing. How could it be enforced? Such a guarantee would simply be another deceit in Washington’s pursuit of world hegemony. The day prior to Thanksgiving also brought another extraordinary development–the failure of a German government bond auction, an unparalleled event. Why would Germany, the only member of the EU with financial rectitude, not be able to sell 35% of its offerings of 10-year bonds? Germany has no debt problems, and its economy is expected by EU and US authorities to bear the lion’s share of the bailout of the EU member countries that do lack financial rectitude. I suspect that the answer to this question is that the failure of the German government’s bond auction was orchestrated by the US, by EU authorities, especially the European Central Bank, and private banks in order to punish Germany for obstructing the purchase of EU member countries’ sovereign debt by the European Central Bank. The German government has been trying to defend the terms on which Germany gave up control over its own currency and joined the EU. By insisting on the legality of the agreements, Germany has been standing in the way of the ECB behaving as the US Federal Reserve and monetizing the debt of member governments. From the beginning the EU was a conspiracy against Germany. If Germany remains in the EU, Germany will be destroyed. It will lose its political and economic sovereignty, and its economy will be bled in behalf of the fiscally irresponsible members of the EU. If Greeks will not submit to the tyranny, why should Germans? |
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The Roads To War And Economic Collapse
The present world economic depression was engineered in 2008 by Hank
Paulson. http://maxkeiser.com/2011/12/03/kr218-keiser-report/ The United States, and Europe, along with the Asian nations have been undermined from within. However, if we had real leadership, we could turn this around very quickly. The first is to get hold of our banking system. This is achieved by prosecuting all wrong-doing in the banking sector, and take anyone left standing at the end of that in the Fed and Wall Street, segregating phoney derivative debts from real financial activity that supports our economy. Then, the US President enacts a 1% Wall Street one time sales tax with a 1 year look back. This Tobin tax would create a $33 trillion liability against $3.3 quadrillion in trading. This would be repaid with a 0.2% Tobin fee over the next five years. The $33 trillion would wipe out the $17 trillion Federal debt, and the remaining $16 trillion credit would be paid interest creating a *true* Federal Reserve, which would be paid by the Tobin fee. At a 3% rate, $16 trillion obtains a $3.49 trillion per year payment. A 0.2% Tobin fee generates $6.6 trillion - reducing the debt and producing a $3.11 trillion surplus. $2.6 trillion each year is used to cover Federal budget outlays. The difference is paid for by taxes. This represents a major reduction in taxes for the physical economy. The $4.0 trillion surplus each year is issued in four $1 trillion Century Bonds that are repaid over 100 years - bearing zero percent interest. A quarter of these Bonds are used to take our cities, counties and states off the hook of high interest public debt. A quarter of these Bonds are used to do infrastructure repair. Half of these Bonds are used for major infrastructure development. So, every three months $250 billion to state and local government existing debts, $250 billion to state local and Federal agencies for infrastructure development, $500 billion to infrastructure development. Continue the plans FDR administration made to develop the Water Suppliers of North America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORRUJyt7AIo Updated for today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMxcrkQOtAs And expanded into a global system of transportation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkKTB3XlCU The world presently consumes 429.8 billion GJ of energy each year which may be supplied by 3.0 billion metric tons of hydrogen gas made with ultra-low-cost solar panels. Fuel......... Amount Unit GGJ GT Hydrogen Oil............ 28.8 bbls 175.7 1.2 Coal......... 5.5 tons 154.0 1.1 Natural Gas 1.8 tons 100.1 0.7 Total 429.8 3.0 Divided among the eight major desert regions of the world this is 16,000 square kilometers of these panels at each desert. Water brought to the panel arrays via the global rail system rights of way described above, combined with a global hydrogen pipeline to take the hydrogen to where its needed. Of special note is the observation that the conversion of 5.5 billion tons of coal to petrol creates 37.4 billion barrels of oil from coal using 0.4 billion tons of hydrogen. This provides a way to sustain the value of the world's economy by expanding oil use while providing for expansion of oil and electricity use. Coal replacement: 1.1 billion tons Coal conversion: 0.4 billion tons Total 1.5 billion tons Versus 2.3 billion tons for an all hydrogen solution. Now, planning a 12% rate of growth doubles demand every 6 years. So, during a 6 year construction period we'll need to go from 28.8 billion barrels to 57.6 billion barrels. We'll go from 1.1 billion tons of hydrogen to replace coal to 2.2 billion tons of hydrogen to replace coal. 2011 2017 Conv. Oil 28.8 18.8 Solar Oil 0.0 37.4 (0.40) H2 replace 0.0 1.4 equiv (0.06) Coal 5.5 5.5 (conv) H2 replace 0.0 1.1 Conv. Gas 1.8 3.16* H2 replace 0.0 0.44 *Hydrogen storage in depleted gas wells mobilizes stationary reserves. Throughout this six year period you also develop a significant space life capability. Such as the ones described here; http://www.scribd.com/doc/45631474/S...rived-Launcher To launch solar power satellites that beam band-gap matched laser energy to the stationary solar collectors. http://www.scribd.com/doc/35439593/S...-Satellite-GEO At an intensity of 2,500 W/m2 for 8,766 hours per year these array outputs rise from 3.0 billion tons per year to 77.6 billion tons per year. This is 27,120 satellites in geosynch orbit. Spread equally this is 8.2 km separation between the 5.2 km diameter satellites. Launching one satellite every 8 hours from 2016 through 2025 completes 37% of this system, and allows an acceleration of growth from 12% per year to 20% per year after 2017 without any increase in the size of the terrestrial system, except the sizing of the water and gas pipelines. Year Output Demand 2016 6.1 5.4 2017 9.1 6.0 2018 12.2 7.2 2019 15.2 8.6 2020 18.3 10.4 2021 21.4 12.4 2022 24.4 14.9 2023 27.5 17.9 2024 30.5 21.5 Since 3.0 billion tons of hydrogen equate to $74.54 trillion, the growth of hydrogen supply equates to increased economic growth. Year Income People Average 2016 $133.11 7.41 $17,967.54 2017 $149.08 7.49 $19,896.82 2018 $178.90 7.58 $23,607.06 2019 $214.68 7.66 $28,009.17 2020 $257.61 7.75 $33,232.16 2021 $309.13 7.84 $39,429.10 2022 $370.96 7.93 $46,781.61 2023 $445.15 8.02 $55,505.17 2024 $534.18 8.11 $65,855.45 At $28,000 per person per year, we achieve Zero Population Growth. The average productivity of an industrial worker or mining worker is approximately $200,000 per year. The average productivity of a knowledge worker exceeds $300,000 per year. Assuming 30% overall employment world wide with 70% non-working and dependent on those working through investment schemes, retirement schemes or direct familial relations, approximately 670 million workers are active at the lower rate to support this scheme and 1,776 million workers are active at the higher rate to support this scheme, with the balance of the workers contributing through secondary activities. With five spare launches per week, of 20,000 metric tons each to LEO, we have the capacity to radically expand our presence in space. A dozen moon ships cycling between Earth and moon, support five launches per week to the moon. Each capable of landing 10,000 metric tons on the moon, transfer 50,000 tonnes to the moon each week. Large enough to support 2.6 million people on the moon. These same vehicles are capable of sending 10,000 metric tons to Mars. One flight per week, placed on orbit, to await alignment with Mars, accumulates 112 vehicles, carrying 1.12 million tons on its way to Mars. 520,000 tonnes per year. This is sufficient to support another 1.6 million people on Mars, making use of the ice buried beneath the surface to support people there. Underwater development, floating cities, flying cities, both on Earth and Venus, survey and mining of the asteroids, survey and mining of the deep sea beds. All these things are developed over this period as well, to support rising living standards. |
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The Roads To War And Economic Collapse
On Dec 3, 11:54*pm, William Mook wrote:
The present world economic depression was engineered in 2008 by Hank Paulson. http://maxkeiser.com/2011/12/03/kr218-keiser-report/ The United States, and Europe, along with the Asian nations have been undermined from within. However, if we had real leadership, we could turn this around very quickly. The first is to get hold of our banking system. *This is achieved by prosecuting all wrong-doing in the banking sector, and take anyone left standing at the end of that in the Fed and Wall Street, segregating phoney derivative debts from real financial activity that supports our economy. Then, the US President enacts a 1% Wall Street one time sales tax with a 1 year look back. * This Tobin tax would create a $33 trillion liability against $3.3 quadrillion in trading. *This would be repaid with a 0.2% Tobin fee over the next five years. The $33 trillion would wipe out the $17 trillion Federal debt, and the remaining $16 trillion credit would be paid interest creating a *true* Federal Reserve, which would be paid by the Tobin fee. At a 3% rate, $16 trillion obtains a $3.49 trillion per year payment. A 0.2% Tobin fee generates $6.6 trillion - reducing the debt and producing a $3.11 trillion surplus. $2.6 trillion each year is used to cover Federal budget outlays. *The difference is paid for by taxes. *This represents a major reduction in taxes for the physical economy. The $4.0 trillion surplus each year is issued in four $1 trillion Century Bonds that are repaid over 100 years - bearing zero percent interest. *A quarter of these Bonds are used to take our cities, counties and states off the hook of high interest public debt. *A quarter of these Bonds are used to do infrastructure repair. *Half of these Bonds are used for major infrastructure development. So, every three months $250 billion to state and local government existing debts, $250 billion to state local and Federal agencies for infrastructure development, $500 billion to infrastructure development. Continue the plans FDR administration made to develop the Water Suppliers of North Americahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORRUJyt7AIo Updated for todayhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMxcrkQOtAs And expanded into a global system of transportationhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkKTB3XlCU The world presently consumes 429.8 billion GJ of energy each year which may be supplied by 3.0 billion metric tons of hydrogen gas made with ultra-low-cost solar panels. Fuel......... * Amount *Unit * *GGJ * * GT Hydrogen Oil............ 28.8 * *bbls * *175.7 * 1.2 Coal......... * * 5.5 * tons * *154.0 * 1.1 Natural Gas * * * 1.8 * tons * *100.1 * 0.7 * * * * * * * * * * * * Total * * * * * 429.8 * 3.0 Divided among the eight major desert regions of the world this is 16,000 square kilometers of these panels at each desert. * Water brought to the panel arrays via the global rail system rights of way described above, combined with a global hydrogen pipeline to take the hydrogen to where its needed. Of special note is the observation that the conversion of 5.5 billion tons of coal to petrol creates 37.4 billion barrels of oil from coal using 0.4 billion tons of hydrogen. *This provides a way to sustain the value of the world's economy by expanding oil use while providing for expansion of oil and electricity use. * * Coal replacement: *1.1 billion tons * * Coal conversion: * * 0.4 billion tons * * * * * Total * * * * * * * * *1.5 billion tons Versus * 2.3 billion tons for an all hydrogen solution. Now, planning a 12% rate of growth doubles demand every 6 years. *So, during a 6 year construction period we'll need to go from 28.8 billion barrels to 57.6 billion barrels. *We'll go from 1.1 billion tons of hydrogen to replace coal to 2.2 billion tons of hydrogen to replace coal. * * * * * * * * * * *2011 * * 2017 Conv. Oil * * * 28.8 * * *18.8 Solar Oil * * * * 0.0 * * * 37.4 * * * * *(0.40) H2 replace * * 0.0 * * * * 1.4 equiv (0.06) Coal * * * * * * * 5.5 * * * * 5.5 (conv) H2 replace * * 0.0 * * * * 1.1 Conv. Gas * * *1.8 * * * *3.16* H2 replace * * *0.0 * * * *0.44 *Hydrogen storage in depleted gas wells mobilizes stationary reserves. Throughout this six year period you also develop a significant space life capability. *Such as the ones described here; http://www.scribd.com/doc/45631474/S...rived-Launcher To launch solar power satellites that beam band-gap matched laser energy to the stationary solar collectors. http://www.scribd.com/doc/35439593/S...-Satellite-GEO At an intensity of 2,500 W/m2 for 8,766 hours per year these array outputs rise from 3.0 billion tons per year to 77.6 billion tons per year. * This is 27,120 satellites in geosynch orbit. *Spread equally this is 8.2 km separation between the 5.2 km diameter satellites. Launching one satellite every 8 hours from 2016 through 2025 completes 37% of this system, and allows an acceleration of growth from 12% per year to 20% per year after 2017 without any increase in the size of the terrestrial system, except the sizing of the water and gas pipelines. Year * * *Output * * * Demand 2016 * * *6.1 * * * * * * 5.4 2017 * * *9.1 * * * * * * 6.0 2018 * *12.2 * * *7.2 2019 * *15.2 * * *8.6 2020 * *18.3 * *10.4 2021 * *21.4 * *12.4 2022 * *24.4 * *14.9 2023 * *27.5 * *17.9 2024 * *30.5 * *21.5 Since 3.0 billion tons of hydrogen equate to $74.54 trillion, the growth of hydrogen supply equates to increased economic growth. Year * *Income *People *Average 2016 * *$133.11 7.41 * *$17,967.54 2017 * *$149.08 7.49 * *$19,896.82 2018 * *$178.90 7.58 * *$23,607.06 2019 * *$214.68 7.66 * *$28,009.17 2020 * *$257.61 7.75 * *$33,232.16 2021 * *$309.13 7.84 * *$39,429.10 2022 * *$370.96 7.93 * *$46,781.61 2023 * *$445.15 8.02 * *$55,505.17 2024 * *$534.18 8.11 * *$65,855.45 At $28,000 per person per year, we achieve Zero Population Growth. The average productivity of an industrial worker or mining worker is approximately $200,000 per year. *The average productivity of a knowledge worker exceeds $300,000 per year. *Assuming 30% overall employment world wide with 70% non-working and dependent on those working through investment schemes, retirement schemes or direct familial relations, approximately 670 million workers are active at the lower rate to support this scheme and 1,776 million workers are active at the higher rate to support this scheme, with the balance of the workers contributing through secondary activities. With five spare launches per week, of 20,000 metric tons each to LEO, we have the capacity to radically expand our presence in space. *A dozen moon ships cycling between Earth and moon, support five launches per week to the moon. *Each capable of landing 10,000 metric tons on the moon, transfer 50,000 tonnes to the moon each week. * Large enough to support 2.6 million people on the moon. These same vehicles are capable of sending 10,000 metric tons to Mars. *One flight per week, placed on orbit, to await alignment with Mars, accumulates 112 vehicles, carrying 1.12 million tons on its way to Mars. *520,000 tonnes per year. *This is sufficient to support another 1.6 million people on Mars, making use of the ice buried beneath the surface to support people there. Underwater development, floating cities, flying cities, both on Earth and Venus, survey and mining of the asteroids, survey and mining of the deep sea beds. *All these things are developed over this period as well, to support rising living standards. But you're not in charge of anything, and still not even getting a textbook mention. We can't move ahead unless history is figured out. How can we avoid future mistakes if the old ones can't be reveled and published as such? When is your revised history going to get published and into our K12 textbooks? What gives? http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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On Nov 24, 8:34*am, Space Privateer
wrote: Dr. Paul Craig Roberts Prisonplanet.com November 24, 2011 November 23, 2011: The day before the Thanksgiving holiday brought three extraordinary news items. One was the report on the Republican presidential campaign debate. One was the Russian President’s statement about his country’s response to Washington’s missile bases surrounding his country. And one was the failure of a German government bond auction. As the presstitute media will not inform us of what any of this means, let me try. With the exception of Ron Paul, the only candidate in either party qualified to be the president of the US, the rest of the Republican candidates are even worse than Obama, a president who had the country behind him but sold out the American people to special interests. No newly elected president in memory, neither John F. Kennedy nor Ronald Reagan, had the extraordinary response to his election as Barack Obama. A record-breaking number of people braved the cold to witness his swearing in ceremony. The mall was filled for miles distant from the Capitol with Americans who could not see the ceremony except as televised on giant screens. Obama had convinced the electorate that he would end the wars, stop the violation of law by the US government, end the regime of illegal torture, close the torture prison of Guantanamo, and attend to the real needs of the American people rather than stuff the pockets of the military/security complex with taxpayers’ money. Once in office, Obama renewed and extended the Bush/Cheney/neoconservative wars. He validated the Bush regime’s assaults on the US Constitution. He left Wall Street in charge of US economic policy, he absolved the Bush regime of its crimes, and he assigned to the American people the financial cost necessary to preserve the economic welfare of the mega-rich. One would think such a totally failed president would be easy to defeat. Given an historic opportunity, the Republican Party has put before the electorate the most amazingly stupid and vile col- lection of prospects, with the exception of Ron Paul who does not have the party’s support, that Americans have ever seen. In the November 22 presidential “debate,” the candidates, with the exception of Ron Paul, revealed themselves as a collection of ignorant warmongers who support the police state. Gingrich and Cain said that Muslims “want to kill us all” and that “all of us will be in danger for the rest of out lives.” Bachmann said that the American puppet state, Pakistan, is “more than an existential threat.” Bachmann has no idea what is “more than an existential threat.” However, it sounded heavy, like an intellectual thing to say for the candidate who previously declared the long-defunct Soviet Union to be today’s threat to the US. Unfortunately for Americans and the world, the US electorate lacks the intelligence and awareness of their plight as denizens of a police state to elect Ron Paul, the last defender together with Rep. Dennis Kucinich of the US Constitution. Nevertheless, there would be a silver lining in one of the Republican morons being elected president of the “world’s only superpower.” Once the rest of the world realized that a war-crazed idiot had his or her finger on the nuclear button, the rest of the world would organize and close down the Washington horror before it destroys life on earth. Any sentient American who watched or read about the Republican presidential debate must wonder what there is to be thankful for as the national holiday approaches. The Russian government, which prefers to use its resources for the economy rather than for the military, has decided that it has been taking too many risks in the name of peace. The day before Thanksgiving, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said, in a televised address to the Russian people, that if Washington goes ahead with its planned missile bases surrounding Russia, Russia will respond with new nuclear missiles of its own, which will target the Amerikan bases and European capital cities. The President of Russia said that the Russian government has asked Washington for legally binding guarantees that the American missile bases are not intended as a threat to Russia, but that Washington has refused to give such guarantees. Medvedev’s statement is perplexing. What does he mean “if Washington goes ahead?” The American missile and radar bases are already in place. Russia is already surrounded. Is Medvedev just now aware of what is already in place? Russia’s and China’s slow response to Washington’s aggression can only be understood in the context of the two countries experience with communism. The sufferings of Russians and Chinese under communism was extreme, and the thinking part of those populations saw America as the ideal of political life. This delusion still controls the mentality of progressive thinkers in Russia and China. It might prove to be a disaster for Russia and China that the countries have citizens who are aligned with the US. Belief in Washington’s trustworthiness even pervades the Russian government, which apparently, according to Medvedev’s statement, would be reassured by a “legally binding guarantee” from Washington. After the massive lies told by Washington in the 21st century–”weapons of mass destruction,” “al Qaeda connections,” “Iranian nukes”–why would anyone put any credence in “a legally binding guarantee” from Washington. The guarantee would mean nothing. How could it be enforced? Such a guarantee would simply be another deceit in Washington’s pursuit of world hegemony. The day prior to Thanksgiving also brought another extraordinary development–the failure of a German government bond auction, an unparalleled event. Why would Germany, the only member of the EU with financial rectitude, not be able to sell 35% of its offerings of 10-year bonds? Germany has no debt problems, and its economy is expected by EU and US authorities to bear the lion’s share of the bailout of the EU member countries that do lack financial rectitude. I suspect that the answer to this question is that the failure of the German government’s bond auction was orchestrated by the US, by EU authorities, especially the European Central Bank, and private banks in order to punish Germany for obstructing the purchase of EU member countries’ sovereign debt by the European Central Bank. The German government has been trying to defend the terms on which Germany gave up control over its own currency and joined the EU. By insisting on the legality of the agreements, Germany has been standing in the way of the ECB behaving as the US Federal Reserve and monetizing the debt of member governments. From the beginning the EU was a conspiracy against Germany. If Germany remains in the EU, Germany will be destroyed. It will lose its political and economic sovereignty, and its economy will be bled in behalf of the fiscally irresponsible members of the EU. If Greeks will not submit to the tyranny, why should Germans? We can't blame any Muslims for this mess. If a certain religion that doesn't believe in hell was mostly in charge, then why not put the blame directly on them? http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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