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Old February 2nd 13, 05:34 PM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Feb 2, 6:44*am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Feb 2, 8:55*am, Brad Guth wrote:

On Feb 1, 9:04*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:


On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:


Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.


* *That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* *And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years


An electron is how hot?


Electrons never change spin speed ,never bounce nor get hot. *They can
move closer to the nucleus or further away. This can be seen by the
hydrogen atom. Thus density of hydrogen is the distance electron is
from nucleus. * All electrons are magnets,and magnetisim does not like
heat. *TreBert


Electrons are also very much like the singularity of a black hole.
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Old February 2nd 13, 05:44 PM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Feb 2, 7:51*am, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/1/13 4:03 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:









On 2/1/13 3:42 PM, Double-A wrote:
On Jan 31, 1:24 pm, Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote:
* *God damn, Sam Wormley ! You're telling treBert black holes only
grow, never shrink. How could you be more retarded than that ?
****ing unbelievable ! The CMBR is 2.7 K today... TODAY.


How the Universe Has Cooled Since the Big Bang Fits Big Bang Theory


"According to the Big Bang theory, the temperature of the cosmic
background radiation drops smoothly as the Universe expands. "That's
just what we see in our measurements. The Universe of a few billion
years ago was a few degrees warmer than it is now, exactly as the Big
Bang Theory predicts," said research team leader Dr Sebastien Muller
of Onsala Space Observatory at Chalmers University of Technology in
Sweden."


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0123101622.htm


And so the temperature of the universe continues to decline as time
passes, giving even the biggest black holes the opportunity to
evaporate.


Double-A


* *The more massive the black hole, the colder it is and the
* *longer it will take to evaporate


* *The Lifetime of a 1 kg black hole is 8.4e-17 seconds


* *The lifetime of a 10 solar mass black hole is 2.1e70 years


* *The lifetime of a 10^6 solar mass black hole is 2.1e85 years


* *Black Holes, unless they violate the laws of thermodynamics, have
* *a temperature and there for radiate. The ones we know about tend
* *to have VERY low temperature with little radiation.


In other words, you now claim that BHs do not keep everything within
their EH.

What other conditional laws of physics do you have for us?
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Old February 2nd 13, 05:46 PM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Feb 2, 7:53*am, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/2/13 7:01 AM, Brad Guth wrote:









On Feb 1, 9:04 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:


Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.


* * That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* * And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years


Or it could be a BH wotyh 2e36 Metric Tons.


Are you suggesting that science exist for measuring the innards of a
BH?


* *Don't be stooopid, Guth--the discussion is, in this part of the
* *thread, about the thermodynamic behavior of black holes. Pay
* *attention!


So, how does anything of IR or that of any spectrum get away from the
EH of a black hole?

mpc755 keeps insisting that aether escapes the polar jets, so is it
the thermodynamics of BH polar jets that you speak of?
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Old February 2nd 13, 05:48 PM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Feb 2, 7:55*am, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/2/13 7:55 AM, Brad Guth wrote:

On Feb 1, 9:04 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:


Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.


* * That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* * And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years


An electron is how hot?


* *Must be measured. Try not to be stooopid, Guth.


Are you saying the quantum singularity of an electron isn't the least
bit similar to that of a BH?
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Old February 2nd 13, 05:51 PM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Feb 2, 8:37*am, Adolf Arch-Impersonator
wrote:
On Feb 2, 10:55*am, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/2/13 7:55 AM, Brad Guth wrote:


On Feb 1, 9:04 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:


Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.


* * That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* * And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years


An electron is how hot?


* *Must be measured. Try not to be stooopid, Guth.


I'm guessing that the temperature of emitted electrons from a black
hole would have to depend upon the time that they were emitted, e.g. a
black hole with a mass of 10^15 g continuously emits radiation
(electrons) for 10^10 years, corresponding to the age of the universe.

But observations of evaporating black holes would therefore have to
apply to holes with masses 10^16 g.

And whether or not evaporating black holes eventually disappear
altogether, would mean that they would have to violate the
conservation of baryon charge. My guess is that black holes would have
to stop evaporating at some quantum level, and divide up as electrons
around 10^-5 g.


Black holes have been identified by their usually high amount of
positrons, as possibly emerging from their polar jets. mpc755 calls
this BH polar outflux aether.
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Old February 2nd 13, 08:36 PM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Feb 1, 3:00*pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Feb 1, 5:03*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:





On 2/1/13 3:42 PM, Double-A wrote:


On Jan 31, 1:24 pm, Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote:
* *God damn, Sam Wormley ! You're telling treBert black holes only grow, never shrink. How could you be more retarded than that ? ****ing unbelievable ! The CMBR is 2.7 K today... TODAY.


How the Universe Has Cooled Since the Big Bang Fits Big Bang Theory


"According to the Big Bang theory, the temperature of the cosmic
background radiation drops smoothly as the Universe expands. "That's
just what we see in our measurements. The Universe of a few billion
years ago was a few degrees warmer than it is now, exactly as the Big
Bang Theory predicts," said research team leader Dr Sebastien Muller
of Onsala Space Observatory at Chalmers University of Technology in
Sweden."


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0123101622.htm


And so the temperature of the universe continues to decline as time
passes, giving even the biggest black holes the opportunity to
evaporate.


Double-A


* *The more massive the black hole, the colder it is and the
* *longer it will take to evaporate


* *The Lifetime of a 1 kg black hole is 8.4e-17 seconds


* *The lifetime of a 10 solar mass black hole is 2.1e70 years


* *The lifetime of a 10^6 solar mass black hole is 2.1e85 years


Sam *BHs do not evaporate. *All that gets into a BH can not get out.
My critical mass density theory has this as its heart. TreBert



I thought your critical mass density theory has black holes
exploding. If they explode, stuff gets out!

Double-A
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Old February 2nd 13, 08:40 PM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Feb 2, 5:55*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 1, 9:04*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:


Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.


* *That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* *And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years


An electron is how hot?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_temperature

Double-A

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Old February 2nd 13, 09:04 PM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On 2/2/13 11:46 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
So, how does anything of IR or that of any spectrum get away from the
EH of a black hole?


See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation

Hawking radiation is black body radiation that is predicted to be
emitted by black holes, due to quantum effects near the event
horizon. It is named after the physicist Stephen Hawking, who
provided a theoretical argument for its existence in 1974,[1] and
sometimes also after Jacob Bekenstein, who predicted that black holes
should have a finite, non-zero temperature and entropy.



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Old February 2nd 13, 09:06 PM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On 2/2/13 11:51 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
Black holes have been identified by their usually high amount of
positrons, as possibly emerging from their polar jets.


Black holes have been identifies by the gravitational influence
on their surroundings--binary system, gas near supermassive black
holes, etc.

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Old February 2nd 13, 09:24 PM posted to sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
G=EMC^2[_2_]
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On Feb 2, 12:46*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 2, 7:53*am, Sam Wormley wrote:









On 2/2/13 7:01 AM, Brad Guth wrote:


On Feb 1, 9:04 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:


Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.


* * That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* * And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years


Or it could be a BH wotyh 2e36 Metric Tons.


Are you suggesting that science exist for measuring the innards of a
BH?


* *Don't be stooopid, Guth--the discussion is, in this part of the
* *thread, about the thermodynamic behavior of black holes. Pay
* *attention!


So, how does anything of IR or that of any spectrum get away from the
EH of a black hole?

mpc755 keeps insisting that aether escapes the polar jets, so is it
the thermodynamics of BH polar jets that you speak of?


Like all horizons the event horizon is just out sideb the sphere of
the black hole. Its a place where real and anti-particles part
company. Inside a plack hole is not part of the universe,and has its
own world. A world where time is 0 A world where energy is 0 A world
of no atoms,for there is no space. If QM is wierd inside a black hole
it makes QM look like a beutifull picture puzzle and all the pieces
full back in place by themselves TreBert
 




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