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Water ice on Mercury
On Nov 29, 12:10*pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Water ice on Mercury *http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/me...ain/index.html Life? Mercury life would be unlikely, though not impossible. The supposed discovery of polar ice on Mercury, plus all that ice supposedly hidden in deep polar craters of our physically dark and naked moon, if such were combined may eventually represent more volume of ice than is safe from melting here on Earth where there are no polar craters for deep shade nor any lack of GW+AGW that’s ongoing and only getting worse. “Sea Levels Rising Faster Than Projected” http://news.yahoo.com/sea-levels-ris...201440601.html “The new report found that sea levels are rising at an annual rate of 0.12 inches (3.2 millimeters) — 60 percent faster than the best estimate of 0.08 inches (2 millimeters) per year, which the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) calculated in 2007.” - “But it was the ice melt that seemed to dominate the annual climate report, with the U.N. concluding ice cover had reached "a new record low" in the area around the North Pole and that the loss from March to September was a staggering 11.83 million square kilometers (4.57 million square miles) — an area bigger than the United States.” The albedo of that sea ice goes from reflecting at 85%, all the way down to reflecting off open water at something less than 15%. If the average 24 hour solar influx upon that polar ice were only 100 w/m2/hr is actually by itself representing a great deal of potential global dimming and subsequent warming potential. 11.83e12 m2 * 70 represents a thermal differential shift of 8.28e14 watts per hour, and only three summer months worth of that becomes 2.16e3 * 8.28e14 = 1.788e18 watts of global warming (1,788,500 TW added to the preexisting surface and atmospheric background energy that we can’t seem to do anything about its warmth without making it worse). Too bad we can not have our Earth science satellites like OCO collecting and mapping thermal as well as spectrometer data on atmospheric gasses and various surface pollutions, but then our crack NASA is still investigating why OCO and previous missions of similar science were each foiled from the very get-go. It’s almost as though some kind of mafia cabal that is deeply invested into conventional “Big Energy” doesn’t want us to know anything more than we already do about our global environment, and our Steven Chu sure as hell isn’t going to fill us in on any secrets that he has uncovered or having otherwise been made aware of. http://www.latimes.com/news/science/...,5793680.story “During the last period of global warming, which peaked roughly 125,000 years ago, sea levels may have risen up to 30 feet higher than today’s levels, according to researchers.” Problem is, by the time Greenland and the Antarctic stop thawing out, sea level could easily reach 40 foot (12 meters) higher than today, making our most tropical and stormy future measurably wetter than most of us have anticipated. The good news is that perhaps only at most 40 foot of the 200 foot potential is what future generations as of more than a century from now will get to deal with it (no telling for how long), so for those of us without a moral compass or any gleam of remorse, it’s not a problem. Thumbnail images of Venus, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/ pixel) http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif “Guth Venus”, at 1:1, then 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/bradgut...18595926178146 https://picasaweb.google.com/bradgut...79402364691314 http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” GuthVenus |
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Water ice on Mercury
On a sunny day (Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:38:39 -0800 (PST)) it happened Brad Guth
wrote in : On Nov 29, 12:10*pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: Water ice on Mercury *http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/me...ain/index.html Life? Mercury life would be unlikely, though not impossible. I think likely, on the 'border' of ice and hot Mercury (the planet duh), will be water at least during some times, and that should include high temperatiure water. High temperature water can dissolve all sort of chemicals simple life(forms) would need. |
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Water ice on Mercury
"Jan Panteltje" wrote in message ...
On a sunny day (Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:38:39 -0800 (PST)) it happened Brad Guth wrote in : On Nov 29, 12:10 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: Water ice on Mercury http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/me...ain/index.html Life? Mercury life would be unlikely, though not impossible. I think likely, on the 'border' of ice and hot Mercury (the planet duh), will be water at least during some times, and that should include high temperatiure water. High temperature water can dissolve all sort of chemicals simple life(forms) would need. ================================================== ====== Water would evaporate to space and be soon lost. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway |
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Water ice on Mercury
On Nov 30, 12:48*am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:38:39 -0800 (PST)) it happened Brad Guth wrote in : On Nov 29, 12:10 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: Water ice on Mercury http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/me...ain/index.html Life? Mercury life would be unlikely, though not impossible. I think likely, on the 'border' of ice and hot Mercury (the planet duh), will be water at least during some times, and that should include high temperatiure water. High temperature water can dissolve all sort of chemicals simple life(forms) would need. Yes, there should be those wet microbes and especially diatoms. Even on our moon or especially Mars should be offering at least the silica remains of diatoms. Problem is, with the best instrumentation capable of discovering any remains of diatoms, at least so far we have no conclusive evidence of any such diatoms or any other microbes alive or dead. Perhaps they simply need to dig deeper. Or, perhaps they only have a scientific illusion of water-ice. Those acidic clouds of Venus offer some carbonated water ice (aka party ice). High above Venus, its terminator is actually much colder at 125 km than it is around here, and those thick clouds below 65 km are not otherwise made of crystal dry and inert kinds of dust. Thumbnail images of Venus, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/ pixel) http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif “Guth Venus”, at 1:1, then 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/bradgut...18595926178146 https://picasaweb.google.com/bradgut...79402364691314 http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” GuthVenus |
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Water ice on Mercury
On Nov 30, 4:36*am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
wrote: "Jan Panteltje" *wrote in ... On a sunny day (Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:38:39 -0800 (PST)) it happened Brad Guth wrote in : On Nov 29, 12:10 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: Water ice on Mercury *http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/me...ain/index.html Life? Mercury life would be unlikely, though not impossible. I think likely, on the 'border' of ice and hot Mercury (the planet duh), will be water at least during some times, and that should include high temperatiure water. High temperature water can dissolve all sort of chemicals simple life(forms) would need. ================================================== ====== Water would evaporate to space and be soon lost. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway The very edge of that melted ice should recycle as long as it is kept mostly shaded from direct and indirect sunlight. Otherwise easily evaporated and forever lost to space would be the case. The ice-water terminator zone would be extremely limited. |
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