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Old November 9th 12, 05:20 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:25:20 -0800 (PST), Brad Guth
wrote:

On Nov 8, 8:31*am, Painius wrote:
On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 05:40:01 -0800 (PST), Brad Guth
wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:55 pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 6, 4:47 pm, Painius wrote:


On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:31:16 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:


On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, HVAC wrote:
On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, wrote:
On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:


Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012...Dark_Core.html


Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.


When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.


"space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein


Times change.


And mainstream physics is so screwed up it can't understand displaced
aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is
gravity and in a double slit experiment the particle travels through a
single slit and the associated wave in the aether through both.


"It is ironic that Einstein's most creative work, the general theory
of relativity, should boil down to conceptualizing space as a medium
when his original premise [in special relativity] was that no such
medium existed [..] The word 'ether' has extremely negative
connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association
with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped
of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most
physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually
says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading
the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic
symmetry. [..] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time
relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began
showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure
similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent
studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand
that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian
emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but
can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a
part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day
by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this
because it is taboo." - Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics,
endowed chair in physics, Stanford University


For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.


And then they deny that's what happened.


Einstein said, "According to the general theory of relativity space
without ether is unthinkable".


Interpret that as you may. It certainly is NOT Einstein doing away
with the ether.


There is physical evidence 'non-baryonic dark matter' is not anchored
to matter. This means matter moves through 'non-baryonic dark matter'.
If matter moves through 'non-baryonic dark matter' then that means
aether has mass.


It is so simple it is ridiculous.


Once you understand aether has mass you understand displaced aether
pushing back toward matter is gravity.


Once you understand aether has mass you understand the wave of wave-
particle duality is a wave in the aether.


Once you understand aether has mass you understand Einstein's
gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave. They are both waves in
the aether.


Perhaps you'll need to make aether much more complex, rather than "so
simple it is ridiculous".


For myself, it's that aether push of representing gravity that doesn't
fly, because that makes molecular stuff as representing antigravity.


There's another reason...

It has to be explained how and why that "aether mass" does not
generate heat through the atmosphere as it "drops" toward the ground
to result in gravitation.


No doubt mpc755 will eventually explain that in detail, though as of
yet I'm not convinced aether represents gravity, at least not
directly.


The idea that the spatial medium is drawn toward matter, drawn into
matter to replenish each and every atom on a constant basis is the
main idea, the main interaction between space and matter from our
viewpoint. The reality, as Einstein put it, is that space and mass
are "extensions" of each other. They are one and the same thing. They
appear to us as two very different things, however they are actually
two renditions, two "states" if you will, of one energy.

Gravitation is merely a byproduct (lucky for us) of the above. As
space flows into, for example, the human body, some of it goes into
each and every atom of the body to constantly replenish the forces of
those atoms. The part of space that flows on through the body, that
does not enter the body's atoms, produces the pressure that keeps the
body's feet on the ground. That action is similar to the wind through
the sails of a windmill.

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Old November 9th 12, 05:30 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On 11/9/2012 11:20 AM, Painius wrote:

The idea that the spatial medium is drawn toward matter, drawn into
matter to replenish each and every atom on a constant basis is the
main idea, the main interaction between space and matter from our
viewpoint. The reality, as Einstein put it, is that space and mass
are "extensions" of each other. They are one and the same thing. They
appear to us as two very different things, however they are actually
two renditions, two "states" if you will, of one energy.

Gravitation is merely a byproduct (lucky for us) of the above. As
space flows into, for example, the human body, some of it goes into
each and every atom of the body to constantly replenish the forces of
those atoms. The part of space that flows on through the body, that
does not enter the body's atoms, produces the pressure that keeps the
body's feet on the ground. That action is similar to the wind through
the sails of a windmill.



Foolish idea with absolutely ZERO evidence to support it.












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