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# Newsgroups: rec.music.classical,sci.astro,alt.pets.rabbits
Dr.Matt wrote: nope, the cassette in the foreground blocks one of 'em, and the table is huge and mostly not in the frame. Dr. Matt, the kook doesn't really care about talking to youz. It cares about adding in 'alt.pets.rabbits' to kook that group. As long as the kook adds that group in, you should refuse to talk to it. It's confusing to the rabbits. ;-) |
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antagonists digest, volume 2453077
Anthony Mandic wrote:
# Newsgroups: rec.music.classical,sci.astro,alt.pets.rabbits Dr.Matt wrote: nope, the cassette in the foreground blocks one of 'em, and the table is huge and mostly not in the frame. Dr. Matt, the kook doesn't really care about talking to youz. It cares about adding in 'alt.pets.rabbits' to kook that group. As long as the kook adds that group in, you should refuse to talk to it. It's confusing to the rabbits. ;-) duck season! |
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"Dr.Matt" wrote:
In article , Frederick Shorts wrote: "Dr.Matt" wrote: In article , Frederick Shorts wrote: "Dr.Matt" wrote: In article , Coby Beck wrote: "Dr.Matt" wrote in message news In article , And the conjuror is reportedly a fan of well-played Tchaikowsky, Holst, and Mahler. Here he is in an unretouched photo I took. Three brownie points to the first person who correctly explains the ghostly glow which illuminates his right hand. http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields/amzng.jpg I would say it is the light from the flash bulb, reflected off of the glass desktop, refracted by the eye-glasses. It may be possible to support a further supposition as to wether it is the main-part of the lens or the bi-focal part, but I don't want to think that hard at the moment. Finally! 3 brownie points to Coby. The award has been sent to you via telekinesis. I think this is wrong. If it were the spectacles, then there would be 2 spots and not one. I don't see another one near it so I can't see how it could be the spectacles. The angle doesn't see right and the shape of the spot is too round. nope, the cassette in the foreground blocks one of 'em, and the table is huge and mostly not in the frame. Nope, incorrect. You are erroneously presupposing that the flash is from the left. Look a little closer. The flash is coming from the right. Look at the Wrong. I have the camera so I know. Having the camera is one thing. Knows how it works or how to use it is another. Now what is wrong? The position of the flash? Then please explain why all the shadows cast are on the left? Look at the box at the lower right. Look at the glasses. Look at the shadow on the left of the subject's head. Are you still saying that the flash wasn't to the right of the camera's axis? shadow cast by the box on the bottom right. The format of the image also helps here. Its clear that the camera was rotate 90 degrees to take a vertical image and thus moving the position of the flash. The glasses aren't blocked by the cassette from the perspective of the flash. Presupposition on your part. Erroneous conclusion on your part. My assessment is correct. Also notice the shadow of the glasses on the shirt just behind it. Its clear that the glasses are close to the edge of the table. They cast a clear shadow on the shirt. Both of the lenses do this. All presupposition on your part, and your theory of a bounce off the camera lens still doesn't work because the camera lens is still the wrong shape. Are you now claiming that the front lens of your camera isn't circular? It also doesn't account for the reddish orange color of the spot. Going from the flash directly to the glass-topped table and then thru the spectacles shouldn't cause a change in color. It should remain white. Bouncing off the front lens of the camera would explain that color though. Trying to salvage your complex solution, but this is indoors, mainly lit by the flash, and that's just the color of his hand. His hand is already well lit by the flash. If there was more white light, the hand would just be brighter and not changed in color. If you have an What do you mean by changed in color? I still don't see it. Zoom in with an image viewer if you have one. Making it larger should make the color difference clearer. Its not just a gamma shift but an entirely different hue. This means some color was added by some reflection somewhere along the line. One other thing to note is that a camera flash illuminates more that just the field viewable by the camera. There may well have been something outside the frame visible to the camera that the flash illuminated. This, of course, would have to have been reflective. image viewer, download the image and zoom in on that spot. Notice the cross pattern around the spot? Its whitish in color and runs up and down and across (butt partially obscured by the beard and phone cord). This is starburst pattern and well known to photographers. I still don't see any of those details and conclude you're having a field day making stuff up. I can see it as plain as day. Try looking at the things I am referring to more closely and note the shadows and patterns. Also open up your camera and look at the lens. Try looking at it from an angle with some other light source reflecting off its surface. What color do you see? Has it a greenish tinge or an orange-redish tinge? -- Matthew H. Fields http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields Music: Splendor in Sound "Hey, don't knock Placebo, its the only thing effective for my hypochondria." Brights have a naturalistic world-view. http://www.the-brights.net/ -- Freddie 'fag' Shorts I'm loud and I'm proud. I'm gay and I like it that way! I support Gay Pride! The Ramrod rocks! Go Kerry! Wanna hire me for web site development? I'm way under-employed! Contact me by email ) or mail me at FS Newssite Inc. 101 West 23rd St. Suite 2237, New York, NY, 10011 Check out my current web sites - http://www.orwellian.org http://www.miscstuff.org http://home.nyc.rr.com/cypherpunk/ -- Matthew H. Fields http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields Music: Splendor in Sound "Hey, don't knock Placebo, its the only thing effective for my hypochondria." Brights have a naturalistic world-view. http://www.the-brights.net/ -- Freddie 'fag' Shorts I'm loud and I'm proud. I'm gay and I like it that way! I support Gay Pride! The Ramrod rocks! Go Kerry! Wanna hire me for web site development? I'm way under-employed! Contact me by email ) or mail me at FS Newssite Inc. 101 West 23rd St. Suite 2237, New York, NY, 10011 Check out my current web sites - http://www.orwellian.org http://www.miscstuff.org http://home.nyc.rr.com/cypherpunk/ |
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Look, would-be show-off, the front of the lens is NOT circular, it's
spherical and disperses anything which bounces off of it rather than concentrating it. The "familiar photographic effect" you're referring to is of reflections from INSIDE the camera, which take on the shape of the aperture whether circular, hexagonal, octagonal, etc.--it's also familiar to anybody who has had their eyes examined and it does not cast light on anything in the scene. The flash remained, as you originally supposed, so close to the aperture that any rotation of the camera didn't matter. Now please don't dig yourself in any deeper. -- Matthew H. Fields http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields Music: Splendor in Sound "Hey, don't knock Placebo, its the only thing effective for my hypochondria." Brights have a naturalistic world-view. http://www.the-brights.net/ |
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"Donald C. Patterson" wrote:
in article , gadfly-x at wrote on 3/16/04 10:15 PM: Anthony Mandic wrote: # Newsgroups: rec.music.classical,sci.astro,alt.pets.rabbits Dr.Matt wrote: nope, the cassette in the foreground blocks one of 'em, and the table is huge and mostly not in the frame. Dr. Matt, the kook doesn't really care about talking to youz. It cares about adding in 'alt.pets.rabbits' to kook that group. As long as the kook adds that group in, you should refuse to talk to it. It's confusing to the rabbits. ;-) duck season! OK, I'll bite. WABBIT SEASON! Don ITS DUCK SEASON! Leave the wabbits alone! -- Freddie 'fag' Shorts I'm loud and I'm proud. I'm gay and I like it that way! I support Gay Pride! The Ramrod rocks! Go Kerry! Wanna hire me for web site development? I'm way under-employed! Contact me by email ) or mail me at FS Newssite Inc. 101 West 23rd St. Suite 2237, New York, NY, 10011 Check out my current web sites - http://www.orwellian.org http://www.miscstuff.org http://home.nyc.rr.com/cypherpunk/ |
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