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The Expanding Earth and Mind and other paradox
I once had a friend that had talent and truly wanted to publish. He could
write,his mind was full of ideas, and for all practical purposes, he believed he was a writer. But had nothing published. His room mate would encourage him, to the point of nagging, to write his novels and cook books. His number one excuse was that he did not have a decent typewriter, (this was long before computers and word processing for the masses). For years that was his excuse, he needed a good typewriter. Finally one day, his room mate not only bought him a very nice IBM Selectric, but also set him up with a cool trailer/writer's pad by the beach .So now my friend could be a writer, no more excuses. Well after a few months, NOTHING! No manuscripts, no outlines, no words, only blank sheets of typewriter paper. He passed away about 10 years ago without publication, all that talent gone. There were many possible reasons for his problem (usually fear and/or lack of the basic "How To"), and we can come up with hundreds of suggestions and fixes . Except, for one case, when the "desire", the "wanting",and the day dreaming is a stronger force than the 'doing' and creating RESULTS. You will not fix this problem. Just let the Don Fs. and Cagles and Ed C.s and other delusionals have their daydreams. We can respond to a few flaws in their logic or point out mistaken observations, even offer suggestions , but that is all. Their minds and egos cannot handle the TRUTH and are therefore, blind to it. The irony in Don's case is that in the past, competent scientists have proposed the idea of earth expansion as a possible cause for observed features on the surface of our planet. They confronted their fears and peers and published. They also had their ego under control and when the arguments against their theories were presented, they accepted those arguments based on logic and good science. And those poor souls that did not accept ,or at least listened to the arguments, were subducted and assimilated into the convecting mantle. Occasionally one pops up as a xenolith, like Don... I found this whole thread a fascinating study of the effects of cross posting, as well as personal observation my reactions to statements made by various players here. Data mining occasionally will take you into stagnant pools, and even then, stirring up the mud can bring to light some life forms that were hidden just beneath the surface. The only danger that we face are the traps of being mired in a "Folie a' Deux" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_%C3%A0_deux . Regards, Will E. |
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will1 wrote: I once had a friend that had talent and truly wanted to publish. He could write,his mind was full of ideas, and for all practical purposes, he believed he was a writer. But had nothing published. His room mate would encourage him, to the point of nagging, to write his novels and cook books. His number one excuse was that he did not have a decent typewriter, (this was long before computers and word processing for the masses). For years that was his excuse, he needed a good typewriter. Finally one day, his room mate not only bought him a very nice IBM Selectric, but also set him up with a cool trailer/writer's pad by the beach .So now my friend could be a writer, no more excuses. Well after a few months, NOTHING! No manuscripts, no outlines, no words, only blank sheets of typewriter paper. He passed away about 10 years ago without publication, all that talent gone. There were many possible reasons for his problem (usually fear and/or lack of the basic "How To"), and we can come up with hundreds of suggestions and fixes . Except, for one case, when the "desire", the "wanting",and the day dreaming is a stronger force than the 'doing' and creating RESULTS. You will not fix this problem. Just let the Don Fs. and Cagles and Ed C.s and other delusionals have their daydreams. We can respond to a few flaws in their logic or point out mistaken observations, even offer suggestions , but that is all. Their minds and egos cannot handle the TRUTH and are therefore, blind to it. The irony in Don's case is that in the past, competent scientists have proposed the idea of earth expansion as a possible cause for observed features on the surface of our planet. They confronted their fears and peers and published. They also had their ego under control and when the arguments against their theories were presented, they accepted those arguments based on logic and good science. And those poor souls that did not accept ,or at least listened to the arguments, were subducted and assimilated into the convecting mantle. Occasionally one pops up as a xenolith, like Don... I found this whole thread a fascinating study of the effects of cross posting, as well as personal observation my reactions to statements made by various players here. Data mining occasionally will take you into stagnant pools, and even then, stirring up the mud can bring to light some life forms that were hidden just beneath the surface. The only danger that we face are the traps of being mired in a "Folie a' Deux" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_%C3%A0_deux . Regards, Will E. The Earth absorbs (gravitational) energy. This collects at its center until it imbalances the magnetic field. When the poles reverse the energy gets spun into matter. The Earth grows bigger and there is an increase in gravity. This has a *profound* effect on genetic expression; some life becomes extinct, other life changes radically; other life loses capacity (to fly, for instance, like the Dodo). Periodic world-wide extinctions and evolutions are the result. John Galaxy Model for the Atom http://users.accesscomm.ca/john |
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will1 wrote: I once had a friend that had talent and truly wanted to publish. He could write,his mind was full of ideas, and for all practical purposes, he believed he was a writer. But had nothing published. His room mate would encourage him, to the point of nagging, to write his novels and cook books. His number one excuse was that he did not have a decent typewriter, (this was long before computers and word processing for the masses). For years that was his excuse, he needed a good typewriter. Finally one day, his room mate not only bought him a very nice IBM Selectric, but also set him up with a cool trailer/writer's pad by the beach .So now my friend could be a writer, no more excuses. Well after a few months, NOTHING! No manuscripts, no outlines, no words, only blank sheets of typewriter paper. He passed away about 10 years ago without publication, all that talent gone. There were many possible reasons for his problem (usually fear and/or lack of the basic "How To"), and we can come up with hundreds of suggestions and fixes . Except, for one case, when the "desire", the "wanting",and the day dreaming is a stronger force than the 'doing' and creating RESULTS. You will not fix this problem. Just let the Don Fs. and Cagles and Ed C.s and other delusionals have their daydreams. We can respond to a few flaws in their logic or point out mistaken observations, even offer suggestions , but that is all. Their minds and egos cannot handle the TRUTH and are therefore, blind to it. The irony in Don's case is that in the past, competent scientists have proposed the idea of earth expansion as a possible cause for observed features on the surface of our planet. They confronted their fears and peers and published. They also had their ego under control and when the arguments against their theories were presented, they accepted those arguments based on logic and good science. And those poor souls that did not accept ,or at least listened to the arguments, were subducted and assimilated into the convecting mantle. Occasionally one pops up as a xenolith, like Don... I found this whole thread a fascinating study of the effects of cross posting, as well as personal observation my reactions to statements made by various players here. Data mining occasionally will take you into stagnant pools, and even then, stirring up the mud can bring to light some life forms that were hidden just beneath the surface. The only danger that we face are the traps of being mired in a "Folie a' Deux" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_%C3%A0_deux . Regards, Will E. Ah, so you're a writer as well, ..Will.. (You're not 'the friend' by any chance..?) Folies a deux. Hmm. The point to be taken from that one I think is the historical fact that the 'folies' are the ones that move us, and the 'two' - or rather the one of the two - are many. Surely you are not upholding the white noise critque of t.o. and their excursions into crass banality as the way discussion (of anything) should be carried out? That surely ensures much, much worse than a fad :- idiocy talking to itself. How many points are you going to award yourself for that one? :-) |
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In article . com,
"malibu" wrote: The Earth absorbs (gravitational) energy. This collects at its center until it imbalances the magnetic field. When the poles reverse the energy gets spun into matter. The Earth grows bigger and there is an increase in gravity. "That's not even wrong." -- Timberwoof me at timberwoof dot com http://www.timberwoof.com If Macintosh is a luxury cruise ship, then Linux is a freighter with wood paneling in the officers' quarters. |
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Timberwoof wrote: In article . com, "malibu" wrote: The Earth absorbs (gravitational) energy. This collects at its center until it imbalances the magnetic field. When the poles reverse the energy gets spun into matter. The Earth grows bigger and there is an increase in gravity. "That's not even wrong." Jupiter gives off 2.6 times as much energy as it receives from the Sun. The 'official' story is that it is still cooling. Is Earth still cooling? Is Earth expanding? What's *your* 'right' story? Got one? John |
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malibu wrote: Timberwoof wrote: In article . com, "malibu" wrote: The Earth absorbs (gravitational) energy. This collects at its center until it imbalances the magnetic field. When the poles reverse the energy gets spun into matter. The Earth grows bigger and there is an increase in gravity. "That's not even wrong." Jupiter gives off 2.6 times as much energy as it receives from the Sun. The 'official' story is that it is still cooling. Even official stories are often correct. Is Earth still cooling? Yes. Is Earth expanding? No. What's *your* 'right' story? Got one? There is really only one that fits the data, altho many details have to be worked out. Unfortunately, it is not your story. John Kermit |
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will1 wrote: I once had a friend that had talent and truly wanted to publish. He could write,his mind was full of ideas, and for all practical purposes, he believed he was a writer. snip sad but common story Regards, Will E. All true. But our "job" here in talk.origins is to confront the anti-science minions of darkness and confusion and keep them out of the hair of folks wanting to do or discuss real science in informal fora. Personally, I am not a scientist, and this is one small way I can contribute to civilization. It is not incidental that I learn to think and speak more clearly on these issues, and develop the tools I need to confront (in the big blue room) my fellow citizens who sometimes seem hell-bent on destroying the little progress we've made in the last couple of lifetimes. And we have a had a few folks show up who were simply misinformed and ignorant, and when pointed in the right direction, or had a few misconceptions cleared up, joined us in defending and presenting the scientific method. The effort is not wasted. Kermit |
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malibu wrote: will1 wrote: snip Regards, Will E. The Earth absorbs (gravitational) energy. No, it doesn't. Can you cite or link to some data that suggests to you that this happens? What *is gravitational energy - can you describe it? Here is an introduction to it. Can you explain why it would be absorbed by the Earth? http://www.cpast.org/Articles/fetch.adp?topicnum=24 This collects at its center until it imbalances the magnetic field. Why at it's center? What holds it? Why would it affect magnetic fields? Why is the magnetic field imbalanced if the "gravitational energy is in the center? When the poles reverse the energy gets spun into matter. Can you show your math? The physicists have calculated that it would tale about 1/4 of the sun's output to produce the mass needed by Don's imagined Earth expansion. Could you explain the mechanism by which a shift in a magnetic field turns any energy into matter? The Earth grows bigger and there is an increase in gravity. But if the accumulated gravity is used to make the matter, how can the gravity increase? You seem to have suggested (against all known physics) that the amount of gravity is unrelated to the mass. This has a *profound* effect on genetic expression; Do you mean directly? (If things weigh more, they obviously must adapt of die. And quickly, apparently.) How? And why does the fossil record not indicate these changes? Did you know that the added mass would change both the revolution of the Earth and it's rotation? Do you know the difference without looking them up? some life becomes extinct, other life changes radically; other life loses capacity (to fly, for instance, like the Dodo). But not crows. Why? Evolutionary theory has very good explanations why the dodo didn't fly, but crows do. Can you explain why one and not the other? Periodic world-wide extinctions and evolutions are the result. Curiously, the mass extinctions as shown in the fossil record did not happen at the same time as the shifts in the magnetic poles. Can you explain this? John Galaxy Model for the Atom http://users.accesscomm.ca/john Kermit |
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don findlay wrote: will1 wrote: I once had a friend that had talent and truly wanted to publish. He could write,his mind was full of ideas, and for all practical snip Regards, Will E. Ah, so you're a writer as well, ..Will.. (You're not 'the friend' by any chance..?) Folies a deux. Hmm. The point to be taken from that one I think is the historical fact that the 'folies' are the ones that move us, and the 'two' - or rather the one of the two - are many. Surely you are not upholding the white noise critque of t.o. and their excursions into crass banality as the way discussion (of anything) should be carried out? That surely ensures much, much worse than a fad :- idiocy talking to itself. How many points are you going to award yourself for that one? :-) As usual Don, you show yourself to be more skillful - presumably more practiced - at dispensing insults than presenting data or answering questions. So when are you going to present a paper? Attend a conference? Write a book? ....take a class? Kermit |
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Kermit wrote: don findlay wrote: As usual Don, you show yourself to be more skillful - presumably more practiced - at dispensing insults than presenting data or answering questions. I was a wide-eyed ingenue - till I met you (and the white noise like you). It's not so much practice, Kermit. The exchanges speak for themselves. I am your mirror. So when are you going to present a paper? Attend a conference? Write a book? I am/ I have. It will cost you less than a pizza. ...take a class? I'm doing that too, but they're all as dumb as you, ...(bunch of no-hopers.) You'd think they'd welcome the opportunity of a different perspective, but that's the last thing they seem to want. Why is that? Why do you regard yourself as the guardian of bull****. Test it. Ask a question. The more you get to know about something the more questions there are to be answered. So ask your plate Tectonic gurus for there 'secret question'. No doubt they have many,..but one will do. See if you have any better luck than me. I've asked them politely enough many, many times. That was where I came in, ..as an ingenue. And you know what? None of them, ...nobody, ..not one, ..*ever* replies.. You only ever get these denizens rising like spectres from the swamp, with their mouths full of slime drivelling ****. True. I'm not joking. Why do you think that is? Why are they afraid, ..to let their ignorance show? That's why. Because the 'secret questions' they have are the ones that used to have answers for them - before they thought about them - the ones that everybody else 'knows' the answer to and they're afraid of looking foolish. That's why you'll get no answer, no matter how polite you are. And incidentally, you'll get called a troll into the bargain, and told to get back to the forest where you belong. Kermit |
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