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Old December 21st 12, 03:14 PM posted to sci.space.history
Bob Haller
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Default Santa Susana Rocketdyne is still a mess


PS:Smoking prevents cancer of the thyroid.


Thats news to me, perhaps bthe smokers dont live long enough to get
thyroid cancer, ?

they may die of other things first.

currently my neighbor and long time friend and his wife both have lung
cancer. its pure sad their son is going to watch his parents die.....
he is just 16....



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Old December 21st 12, 03:45 PM posted to sci.space.history
Bob Haller
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On Dec 21, 5:59*am, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
Jeff Findley wrote:
In article , says....
bob haller wrote:
that reactor was small, can you imagine what a current US nuke plant
or even storage pool could do if it melted down in a populated area?
What do you think?


Bob's thoughts are paranoid delusions.
Jeff


Bob could lobby for Big Oil. Back on the topic of the legacy of nuclear
power and space, Mr. Lesher began.
I'd be inclined to be concerned about dust blowing off the area toward
a populated zone, especially after a hot dry drought, (Vacuum cleaners
can be deployed and the radioactivity of the collected dust measured),
then the area specified for zoning, with appropriate sign age.
There was a similar sign age warning at the Trinity site when I was
there, bla-bla radiation hazard.
Ken
PS:Smoking prevents cancer of the thyroid.


winds can come from any direction.....

its best to clean the area up as good as possible and keep it a
exclusion zone
  #14  
Old December 28th 12, 04:04 AM posted to sci.space.history
OM[_19_]
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Default Santa Susana Rocketdyne is still a mess

the 2,850-acre site, which is home to rare plants, great horned
owls and four-point bucks.


....And now we know how Rudolph's nose got so shiny.


OM
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Old December 29th 12, 08:18 PM posted to sci.space.history
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"Ken S. Tucker" writes:


Bob could lobby for Big Oil. Back on the topic of the legacy of nuclear
power and space, Mr. Lesher began.


I'd be inclined to be concerned about dust blowing off the area toward
a populated zone, especially after a hot dry drought, (Vacuum cleaners
can be deployed and the radioactivity of the collected dust measured),


I did? News to me! As I recall, my sole statement was:

As I recall, this site was featured in an episode of
I Spy, all those decades ago....

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Old December 29th 12, 11:39 PM posted to sci.space.history
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Dec 19, 10:29*pm, David Lesher wrote:
A federal study shows hundreds of hot spots at the 2,850-acre
facility, overlooking the west San Fernando Valley, half a
century after a partial nuclear meltdown there.

By Louis Sahagun, Los Angeles Times

1:31 AM PST, December 17, 2012

Half a century after America's first partial nuclear meltdown,
hundreds of radioactive hot spots remain at a former research
facility overlooking the west San Fernando Valley, according to
a recently released federal study.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's $41-million survey of
the facility, now owned by Boeing Co. and NASA, is expected to
provide a precise map for state and federal agencies hoping to
clean up the site by 2017.

It also sets the stage for determining a final disposition for
the 2,850-acre site, which is home to rare plants, great horned
owls and four-point bucks.

That won't be easy. Environmentalists and Boeing officials are
already clashing over plans to transform the site near the Santa
Susana Mountains into public open space.

......

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-meltdown-study-20121218,0,200...

As I recall, this site was featured in an episode of I Spy, all those decades ago....

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A host is a host from coast to
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433


Too bad that thorium fueled reactors couldn't possibly work, because
if they could their all-inclusive energy cost wouldn't be 10% of what
conventional nuclear produced energy is currently costing us,
including the whole birth to grave of associated cost factors, not to
mention the human and biodiversity friendly nature of spent thorium
that could be nearly as safely disposed of in daycare sand boxes, not
to otherwise mention the nuclear nonproliferation benefits that are
otherwise currently costing this world at least an extra trillion per
year if you'd care to honestly put a truthful price tag upon global
terrorism via dirty bombs and/or ww3 where most everything goes up in
smoke along with lethal fallout that'll last for thousands of years.

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Old December 29th 12, 11:43 PM posted to sci.space.history
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Dec 21, 6:45*am, bob haller wrote:
On Dec 21, 5:59*am, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:









Jeff Findley wrote:
In article , says....
bob haller wrote:
that reactor was small, can you imagine what a current US nuke plant
or even storage pool could do if it melted down in a populated area?
What do you think?


Bob's thoughts are paranoid delusions.
Jeff


Bob could lobby for Big Oil. Back on the topic of the legacy of nuclear
power and space, Mr. Lesher began.
I'd be inclined to be concerned about dust blowing off the area toward
a populated zone, especially after a hot dry drought, (Vacuum cleaners
can be deployed and the radioactivity of the collected dust measured),
then the area specified for zoning, with appropriate sign age.
There was a similar sign age warning at the Trinity site when I was
there, bla-bla radiation hazard.
Ken
PS:Smoking prevents cancer of the thyroid.


winds can come from any direction.....

its best to clean the area up as good as possible and keep it a
exclusion zone


Or cover it up with 10+ meters of highly compacted new earth and rock
that can't easily erode.

However, if there's ground water below the contaminated site, we're
screwed.
  #18  
Old December 30th 12, 02:54 AM posted to sci.space.history
Bob Haller
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Default Santa Susana Rocketdyne is still a mess

On Dec 29, 5:43*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Dec 21, 6:45*am, bob haller wrote:





On Dec 21, 5:59*am, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:


Jeff Findley wrote:
In article , says...
bob haller wrote:
that reactor was small, can you imagine what a current US nuke plant
or even storage pool could do if it melted down in a populated area?
What do you think?


Bob's thoughts are paranoid delusions.
Jeff


Bob could lobby for Big Oil. Back on the topic of the legacy of nuclear
power and space, Mr. Lesher began.
I'd be inclined to be concerned about dust blowing off the area toward
a populated zone, especially after a hot dry drought, (Vacuum cleaners
can be deployed and the radioactivity of the collected dust measured),
then the area specified for zoning, with appropriate sign age.
There was a similar sign age warning at the Trinity site when I was
there, bla-bla radiation hazard.
Ken
PS:Smoking prevents cancer of the thyroid.


winds can come from any direction.....


its best to clean the area up as good as possible and keep it a
exclusion zone


Or cover it up with 10+ meters of highly compacted new earth and rock
that can't easily erode.

However, if there's ground water below the contaminated site, we're
screwed.


nevada has been in drought conditions for years, lake mead is less
than half full, thats the lake hoover dam holds back.

theres plenty of ground water under nevada, all contaminated by
radiation from nuclear bomb testing
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Old December 31st 12, 04:10 PM posted to sci.space.history
Ken S. Tucker[_2_]
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David Lesher wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" writes:


Bob could lobby for Big Oil. Back on the topic of the legacy of nuclear
power and space, Mr. Lesher began.


I'd be inclined to be concerned about dust blowing off the area toward
a populated zone, especially after a hot dry drought, (Vacuum cleaners
can be deployed and the radioactivity of the collected dust measured),


I did? News to me! As I recall, my sole statement was:

As I recall, this site was featured in an episode of
I Spy, all those decades ago....

Must be a different Lesher, Lesher in english is like singh in india.
Ken
  #20  
Old December 31st 12, 06:35 PM posted to sci.space.history
Bob Haller
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Default Santa Susana Rocketdyne is still a mess

On Dec 29, 11:46*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

theres plenty of ground water under nevada, all contaminated by
radiation from nuclear bomb testing


Cite? *Anything showing that ANY ground water that is not under
Federal land that is contaminated will do. *There is tritium
contamination in water under the test range (and surrounding Nellis
AFB), but no sign it will ever spread off that area and reach civilian
populated areas.

--
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*soul with evil."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Socrates


this from a news reort about the drought, it showed a great resivior
under nevada but stated it was contaminated, from bomb testing.

honestly do you trust government, over the years they have covered up
lots of problems
 




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