Most or All Republican, Democrat Delegates Have Become Whorelike

On Mar 4, 10:33 pm, wrote:
: "American" wrote in
:
: On Mar 4, 6:31 pm, wrote:
:
:: "American" wrote:
::
:: The infamous "Alcubierre drive", a theoretical construct
:: utilizing a "warp bubble", contracts the space in front of
:: the craft, at the same time the craft jumps through 4-space.
:: These things work. They've already been tested.
:
: Read, a little slower this time:
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
:
: "...there are no known methods to create such a warp
: bubble in a region that does not already contain one, or
: to leave the bubble once inside it, so the Alcubierre drive
: remains a theoretical concept at this time."
:
: I read that. This statement is quite true, however it does
: not contain enough "information" about the "region that
: does not already contain one".
:
: Well, like I said earlier, I'm the last person who'd discourage
: anyone from dreaming, or discovering.
:
: Just two questions, out of curiosity:
:
: 1. If you could go anywhere in the universe, where would you go?
:
: 2. Do you believe in a creator, i.e. supreme being, God etc?

I'd go through the wormhole in the back of the serpent's
head, emerging from its mouth, and into, but THRU the
tail it would follow, in a parallel worldline, taken to
be the NEW earth. This idea is NOT to be taken as the
one defining the ancient symbolism:

An ancient symbolic representation of the "2012 effect"
taken to represent the tail of a serpent just emerging
from the serpent's mouth - representing the passage of
our sun through the galactic south-to-north plane of
rotation - thus causing a "pole shift" of some sort.

As the year 2012 approaches, there will come ideas
that have become born out of conditions created by the
harlot bureaucracy, because both left-brained and right-
brained intuitively motivated, earth-based "promise
markets", will tend to cause the individual to focus more
on himself/herself than the greater good. At this juncture,
parlour tricks with smoke and mirrors become not only
convenient in masking the true identity of the anti-
Christ, but available to anyone who will accept Satan's
falling away as "free will" rather than being born of
the Holy Spirit. This system I've often referred to as
the media whore, whose G-d is the dragon, the dragon
that comes to devour the innocent at the expense of
conformity to the world system and ideology.

The war in Iraq is a distraction used by the trans-
nationalists to squash the middle class in America, at
the expense of keeping the masses "dumbed down". It's
a war of violent ideologies between the ram and the
goat, as interpreted by the book of Daniel:

Dan 8:5,6 "And as I was considering, behold, a he goat
came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and
touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn
between his eyes. He came toward the two-horned ram I
had seen standing beside the canal and charged at him
in great rage.

The he-goat represents the United States, and is often
associated with Satan. An "unblemished goat" also
represents an old-testament sacrifice and burnt offering
to the old-testament G-d of Israel.

The "ram" also represents a sacrifice - like the ram
that was caught in the thicket by his horns - involved
a life (ram) that was to be sacrificed as a "ram of
heaven", whose body is slain, and flesh was eaten.
This ram, according to Daniel's interpretation,
would today represent Bin Laden and Al Queda.

Note here that the overall conflict between sacrifices
is becoming a joke. This is how burdened that this
nation is with Zionism. The "redeemer" to them was,
and still is, not accepted as the "ultimate sacrifice".


American

ref. thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...13ffc619d7ba27

:: The infamous "Alcubierre drive", a theoretical construct
:: utilizing a "warp bubble", contracts the space in front of
:: the craft, at the same time the craft jumps through 4-space.
:: These things work. They've already been tested.
:
: Read, a little slower this time:
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
:
: "...there are no known methods to create such a warp
: bubble in a region that does not already contain one, or
: to leave the bubble once inside it, so the Alcubierre drive
: remains a theoretical concept at this time."
:
: I read that. This statement is quite true, however it does
: not contain enough "information" about the "region that
: does not already contain one".
:
: Well, like I said earlier, I'm the last person who'd discourage
: anyone from dreaming, or discovering.
:
: Just two questions, out of curiosity:
:
: 1. If you could go anywhere in the universe, where would you go?
:
: 2. Do you believe in a creator, i.e. supreme being, God etc?

I'd go through the wormhole in the back of the serpent's
head, emerging from its mouth, and into, but THRU the
tail it would follow, in a parallel worldline, taken to
be the NEW earth. This idea is NOT to be taken as the
one defining the ancient symbolism:

An ancient symbolic representation of the "2012 effect"
taken to represent the tail of a serpent just emerging
from the serpent's mouth - representing the passage of
our sun through the galactic south-to-north plane of
rotation - thus causing a "pole shift" of some sort.

As the year 2012 approaches, there will come ideas
that have become born out of conditions created by the
harlot bureaucracy, because both left-brained and right-
brained intuitively motivated, earth-based "promise
markets", will tend to cause the individual to focus more
on himself/herself than the greater good. At this juncture,
parlour tricks with smoke and mirrors become not only
convenient in masking the true identity of the anti-
Christ, but available to anyone who will accept Satan's
falling away as "free will" rather than being born of
the Holy Spirit. This system I've often referred to as
the media whore, whose G-d is the dragon, the dragon
that comes to devour the innocent at the expense of
conformity to the world system and ideology.

The war in Iraq is a distraction used by the trans-
nationalists to squash the middle class in America, at
the expense of keeping the masses "dumbed down". It's
a war of violent ideologies between the ram and the
goat, as interpreted by the book of Daniel:

*Dan 8:5,6 "And as I was considering, behold, a he goat
*came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and
*touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn
*between his eyes. He came toward the two-horned ram I
*had seen standing beside the canal and charged at him
*in great rage.

The he-goat represents the United States, and is often
associated with Satan. An "unblemished goat" also
represents an old-testament sacrifice and burnt offering
to the old-testament G-d of Israel.

The "ram" also represents a sacrifice - like the ram
that was caught in the thicket by his horns - involved
a life (ram) that was to be sacrificed as a "ram of
heaven", whose body is slain, and flesh was eaten.
This ram, according to Daniel's interpretation,
would today represent Bin Laden and Al Queda.

Note here that the overall conflict between sacrifices
is becoming a joke. This is how burdened that this
nation is with Zionism. The "redeemer" to them was,
and still is, not accepted as the "ultimate sacrifice".

American

ref. thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...13ffc619d7ba27

Ultimacy of power. It is big brother in power, religious curtain and
addiction, the curtain that was predicted with cold rogue powers
to come around 1860, formed later by Marx and other hidden figures
behind Capitalist radicalism. Yes radicalism comes with followers,
and worshipping of a formula of power above all cultures in cold rogue
politics, dictatorial sides and cameras in the streets and everywhere.
It is how fascism builds in and declares conspiracies at the top and
degrades humanity of course. Radicalism is religious, like the CCCP,
though opposes religion and culture and becomes it's only
representative
as state power like the old CCCP or Brain, Washington. Religious
governments form a curtain, the Western People's Capitalism is
born with big brother watching as with the streets of UK and coming
to the USA from there. Fascism.

On Mar 5, 8:19*pm, gb wrote:
:: The infamous "Alcubierre drive", a theoretical construct
:: utilizing a "warp bubble", contracts the space in front of
:: the craft, at the same time the craft jumps through 4-space.
:: These things work. They've already been tested.
:
: Read, a little slower this time:
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
:
: "...there are no known methods to create such a warp
: bubble in a region that does not already contain one, or
: to leave the bubble once inside it, so the Alcubierre drive
: remains a theoretical concept at this time."
:
: I read that. This statement is quite true, however it does
: not contain enough "information" about the "region that
: does not already contain one".
:
: Well, like I said earlier, I'm the last person who'd discourage
: anyone from dreaming, or discovering.
:
: Just two questions, out of curiosity:
:
: 1. If you could go anywhere in the universe, where would you go?
:
: 2. Do you believe in a creator, i.e. supreme being, God etc?

I'd go through the wormhole in the back of the serpent's
head, emerging from its mouth, and into, but THRU the
tail it would follow, in a parallel worldline, taken to
be the NEW earth. This idea is NOT to be taken as the
one defining the ancient symbolism:

An ancient symbolic representation of the "2012 effect"
taken to represent the tail of a serpent just emerging
from the serpent's mouth - representing the passage of
our sun through the galactic south-to-north plane of
rotation - thus causing a "pole shift" of some sort.

As the year 2012 approaches, there will come ideas
that have become born out of conditions created by the
harlot bureaucracy, because both left-brained and right-
brained intuitively motivated, earth-based "promise
markets", will tend to cause the individual to focus more
on himself/herself than the greater good. At this juncture,
parlour tricks with smoke and mirrors become not only
convenient in masking the true identity of the anti-
Christ, but available to anyone who will accept Satan's
falling away as "free will" rather than being born of
the Holy Spirit. This system I've often referred to as
the media whore, whose G-d is the dragon, the dragon
that comes to devour the innocent at the expense of
conformity to the world system and ideology.

The war in Iraq is a distraction used by the trans-
nationalists to squash the middle class in America, at
the expense of keeping the masses "dumbed down". It's
a war of violent ideologies between the ram and the
goat, as interpreted by the book of Daniel:

*Dan 8:5,6 "And as I was considering, behold, a he goat
*came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and
*touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn
*between his eyes. He came toward the two-horned ram I
*had seen standing beside the canal and charged at him
*in great rage.

The he-goat represents the United States, and is often
associated with Satan. An "unblemished goat" also
represents an old-testament sacrifice and burnt offering
to the old-testament G-d of Israel.

The "ram" also represents a sacrifice - like the ram
that was caught in the thicket by his horns - involved
a life (ram) that was to be sacrificed as a "ram of
heaven", whose body is slain, and flesh was eaten.
This ram, according to Daniel's interpretation,
would today represent Bin Laden and Al Queda.

Note here that the overall conflict between sacrifices
is becoming a joke. This is how burdened that this
nation is with Zionism. The "redeemer" to them was,
and still is, not accepted as the "ultimate sacrifice".

American

ref. thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...13ffc619d7ba27

Ultimacy of power. It is big brother in power, religious curtain and
addiction, the curtain that was predicted with cold rogue powers
to come around 1860, formed later by Marx and other hidden figures
behind Capitalist radicalism. Yes radicalism comes with followers,
and worshipping of a formula of power above all cultures in cold rogue
politics, dictatorial sides and cameras in the streets and everywhere.
It is how fascism builds in and declares conspiracies at the top and
degrades humanity of course. Radicalism is religious, like the CCCP,
though opposes religion and culture and becomes it's only
representative
as state power like the old CCCP or Brain, Washington. Religious
governments form a curtain, the Western People's Capitalism is
born with big brother watching as with the streets of UK and coming
to the USA from there. Fascism.

Recently, because of the obvious inability of the most
important shared, time synchronous agreed-upon events
to become percolated over to the promise markets, no
observations have become available except the ones that,
because of transnationalist greed and NWO malfeasance,
negate the positive intentions of the most important
events, such as FTL propulsion, from taking strong
root and enhancing the overall spectrum of promise
market potential.

There are several reasons for this. The primary reason
is the fear of overall energy market and job market
collapse, which is a useless issue when regarding
things such as job retraining, and/or identification
of the transferrable skill sets that are important
to such an industry-wide makeover. However, it's not
that "simple" when one takes into account all or most
of the bureaucracy that has been made to believe that
"gasoline" or even alternatives that are made to "function"
like gasoline will forever be the answer to independent,
public transportation. Most or all of the ideas that have
come forth as "alternatives" need to be re-evaluated
on a completely different and even revolutionary "scale"
as being "replacement" before the both planet earth and
mankind become changed forever - changed by military
and police state oppression, and world
financial subjugation.

The fifth heaven of the "celestial spheres in the bodily
world" relate to Aaron, the high priest mentioned in the
Old Testament, who was responsible for rule over and
"subjugation" of the people of Israel under Pharoah,
and later, Moses. It was Aaron who offered sacrifices
and who performed ceremonies in the sanctuary and at
the altar. In addition, Aaron consecrated the priests of
the Levites and also appeared before the people of
Israel during these ceremonies and meetings.

The problem we have with Aaron and Moses is that,
because of impatience, they were not permitted to
enter the promised land. "...at Meribah (Kadesh) in
the last year of the desert pilgrimage (Num. xx. 12, 13),
when they, or rather Moses, brought water out of a
rock to quench the thirst of the people. The action
was construed as displaying a want of deference to
the Lord, since they had been commanded to speak
to the rock, whereas Moses struck it with the
wonder-working rod (Num. xx. 7-11)."
ref. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron

We can now see how the mountain of our opposition
represents the planet Mars. Neither the spirit of Aaron or
Moses, because of their impatience with the people of
Israel, are permitted to move "extraterrestrially" past
this roadblock in space. There are no other colloraries
in any other religious text about this supernatural
roadblock except in the Old Testament:

Numbers 20, v. 7 - 11:

The Lord said to Moses, "Take the staff, and you and
your brother Aaron gather the assembly together. Speak
to that rock before their eyes and it will pour out its
water. You will bring water out of the rock for the
community so they and their livestock can drink."

So Moses took the staff from the Lord's presence, just
as he commanded him. He and Aaron gathered the
assembly together in front of the rock and Moses
said to them, "Listen, you rebels, must we bring you
water out of this rock?" Then Moses raised his arm
and struck the rock twice with his staff. Water gushed
out, and the community and their livestock drank.

But the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, "Because you
did not trust in me enough to honor me as holy in the
sight of the Israelites, you will not bring this
community into the land I give them."

Thus Moses and Aaron were not able to enter the land
of "milk and honey", whilst only two of those who were
sent out as scouts (Joshua son of Nun and Caleb son of
Jephunneh) were able to enter the promised land 45
years later. For a total of 9-1/2 tribes, 2-1/2 tribes
recieved land east of the Jordan, and the Levites
recieved only towns and pasturelands for their flocks
and herds. Most of the rest of the tribes of Israel
settled around the Jordan river. The "water from the
rock" was definitely a pivotal event for the people
of Israel.

Compare this reaction to Moses to the reply that Jesus
gave to the woman at the well, and one can see that the
"water" that the Lord referred to here was a different
kind of "water", this new "water" being something un-
related to the fifth heaven of the bodily world
"celestial sphere" of Aaron.

John 4, 10:

Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God and who
it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked
him and he would have given you living water."

The spiritual "water" Jesus refers to here is a "spring
of water gushing up into eternal life." The "living water"
here must refer to the "memory water" for some specific
"zero time", e.g.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...01e86a5812438a

Nothing much else needs to be said here except that
anything "Mars related" refers to the spirit of Aaron
and Moses in their quest to lead the children of Israel
around their own mountain of opposition, which NOW
CAN ONLY REPRESENT THE MOUNTAIN OF U.S.
FINANCIAL DEBT.

Mars is also the GOD of WAR, and since both Aaron
and Moses WERE PREVENTED from entering into the
promised land, SO ALSO ARE the followers of modern
day "Moses and Aaron" types, who represent any better-than-nothing
politician that ends up being "window
dressing" to the problems of a government gone
rampant with economic tribunals, especially in the
execution of judgement with things like TORT
Hellholes, environmental micromanagement, and 9-11
conspiracies. The collateral effects are felt as the
economic displacement of jobs at home and abroad, for
the sake of all wars being fought, and for a police
state of overnationalized security - all having become
directly, and indirectly, instrumental for the domestic
rise in the cost of a barrel of oil. The *marginalizers*
are those who are, although able to afford, but are
unwilling, due to a either a fear of losing some or all of
their own self-esteem among shareholders, legal, or
business entities, familiar faces, famous names, or
fearing the fate of the whistle-blower. All of these
potential promise market "keyholders" might either
be directly or indirectly involved with one or more
of the energy market "cartels", but the "involvement"
would be much closer to being tied to a guaranteed
payoff, investment-wise, for the "guaranteed term"
investment, than it would for short-term, or "new
business launch" (read: free energy).

Yet one cannot be totally incognizant of the very special
sphere of influence that was supposed to happen with the
nation of Israel, and see that since God's chosen people
were given places like the mountains of Israel, or Golan
Heights, and that these people have become as sovereigns,
dwelling in "unwalled villages", as declared in the book
of Ezekiel 38:

The word of the Lord came to me: "Son of man, set your
face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince
of Meshech and Tubal; prophesy against him and say:
'This is what the sovereign Lord says: I am against you,
O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal; prophesy
against him and say: 'This is what the Sovereign Lord
says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech
and Tubal. I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws
and bring you out with your whole army - your horsemen
fully armed, and a great horde with large and small
shields, all of them brandishing their swords. Persia,
Cush, and Put will be with them, all with shields and
helmets, also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth
Togarmah from the far north with all its troops - the
many nations with you.

'Get ready; be prepared, you and all the hordes gathered
about you, and take command of them. After many days
you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade
a land that has recovered from war, whose people were
gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel,
which had long been desolate. They had been brought
out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.
You and all your troops and the many nations with you
will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like
a cloud covering the land.

'This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On that day
thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise
an evil scheme. You will say, "I will invade a land
of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and
unsuspecting people - all of them living without
walls and without gates and bars. I will plunder and
loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and
the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock
and goods, living at the center of the land." Sheba and
Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her villages
will say to you, "Have you come to plunder? Have you
gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and
gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize
much plunder?"

"Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog: 'This
is what the Sovereign Lord says: In that day, when my
people Israel are living in safety, will you not take
notice of it? You will come from your place in the far
north, you and many nations with you, all of them
riding on horses, a great horde, a mighty army. You
will advance against my people Israel like a cloud
that covers the land. In days to come, O Gog, I will
bring you against my land, so that the nations may
know me when I show myself holy through you before
their eyes.

"'This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Are you not
the one I spoke of in former days by my servants the
prophets of Israel? At that time they prophesied for
years that I would bring you against them. This is
what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the
land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused,
declares the Sovereign Lord. In my zeal and fiery
wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a
great earthquake in the Land of Israel. The fish of
the sea, the birds of the air, the beasts of the
field, every creature that moves along the ground,
and all the people on the face of the earth will
tremble at my presence. The mountains will be over-
turned, the cliffs will crumble, and every wall
will fall to the ground. I will summon a sword
against Gog on all my mountains, declares the
Sovereign Lord. Every man's sword will be against
his brother. I will execute judgement upon him with
plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of
rain, hailstones, and burning sulphur on him and on
his troops and on the many nations with him. And so
I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will
make myself known in the sight of many nations.
Then they will know that I am the Lord.'

Ezekiel 39, v. 1-8 says:

"Son of man, prophesy against Gog and say: 'This is
what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, O
Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. I will turn
you around and drag you along. I will bring you from
the far north and send you against the mountains of
Israel. Then I will strike your bow from your left
hand and make your arrows drop from your right hand.
On the mountains of Israel you will fall, you and
all your troops and the nations with you. I will
give you as food to all kinds of carrion birds and
to the wild animals. You will fall in the open
field, for I have spoken, declares the Sovereign
Lord. I will send fire on Magog and on those who
live in safety in the coastlands, and they will
know that I am the Lord.

"'I will make known my holy name among my people
Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be
profaned, and the nations will know that I the
Lord am the Holy One in Israel. It is coming! It
will surely take place, declares the Sovereign Lord.
This is the day I have spoken of.

Who is "Gog" here? Well, who has got the largest
military active "presence" near the area of Israel,
and mainly to the "far north", as spoken of in
Ezekiel 38:15, OTHER THAN THE UNITED STATES?

And WHO WANTS A PEACE DEAL WORKED OUT
BETWEEN PALESTINIAN LEADERS, IN ORDER TO
SET UP A PALESTINIAN STATE BEFORE BUSH
LEAVES OFFICE?

HAS NOT THE UNITED STATES SENT SECRETARY
OF STATE CONDOLEEZZA RICE TO "WORK OUT
A DEAL" BETWEEN THE LEADERS?

IS NOT THE UNITED STATES ACTING AS THE
INTERCESSORY, WITH ITS FRIEND, THE
EUROPEAN UNION, A PARTNER WHO CAN
SEND ENVOYS AND FOREIGN MINISTERS TO
BACK UP THE UNITED STATES IN ESTABLISHING
A PEACE PROCESS IN THE SENSE OF "WHY
CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG HERE"?

(ALL OF THIS "PEACE" IS JUST HOOPLA ON
THE ROAD TO WHAT THE BOOK OF EZEKIEL
IS PROPHESYING).

THE END IS NEAR!!!

If the true agenda here is to support the "getting
along" between the Palestinians and Israelis, then the
Zionists are continuing to support Israel's right to
exist by setting the stage for an even larger conflict
- this one involving all of the nations involved -
nations who would, according to U.N. doctrine, expand
on some "jingoism" required for creating an armistice
that will always be made to break - while attempting to
"enforce" the agenda of the very people who believe that
they can either outmaneuver or outwit the "Lord God",
which will always end up being delivered into the hands
of the Almighty - a fearsome thing indeed, and all
according to God's plan afterall.


American

On Mar 10, 12:46*pm, American wrote:
On Mar 5, 8:19*pm, gb wrote:



:: The infamous "Alcubierre drive", a theoretical construct
:: utilizing a "warp bubble", contracts the space in front of
:: the craft, at the same time the craft jumps through 4-space.
:: These things work. They've already been tested.
:
: Read, a little slower this time:
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
:
: "...there are no known methods to create such a warp
: bubble in a region that does not already contain one, or
: to leave the bubble once inside it, so the Alcubierre drive
: remains a theoretical concept at this time."
:
: I read that. This statement is quite true, however it does
: not contain enough "information" about the "region that
: does not already contain one".
:
: Well, like I said earlier, I'm the last person who'd discourage
: anyone from dreaming, or discovering.
:
: Just two questions, out of curiosity:
:
: 1. If you could go anywhere in the universe, where would you go?
:
: 2. Do you believe in a creator, i.e. supreme being, God etc?

I'd go through the wormhole in the back of the serpent's
head, emerging from its mouth, and into, but THRU the
tail it would follow, in a parallel worldline, taken to
be the NEW earth. This idea is NOT to be taken as the
one defining the ancient symbolism:

An ancient symbolic representation of the "2012 effect"
taken to represent the tail of a serpent just emerging
from the serpent's mouth - representing the passage of
our sun through the galactic south-to-north plane of
rotation - thus causing a "pole shift" of some sort.

As the year 2012 approaches, there will come ideas
that have become born out of conditions created by the
harlot bureaucracy, because both left-brained and right-
brained intuitively motivated, earth-based "promise
markets", will tend to cause the individual to focus more
on himself/herself than the greater good. At this juncture,
parlour tricks with smoke and mirrors become not only
convenient in masking the true identity of the anti-
Christ, but available to anyone who will accept Satan's
falling away as "free will" rather than being born of
the Holy Spirit. This system I've often referred to as
the media whore, whose G-d is the dragon, the dragon
that comes to devour the innocent at the expense of
conformity to the world system and ideology.

The war in Iraq is a distraction used by the trans-
nationalists to squash the middle class in America, at
the expense of keeping the masses "dumbed down". It's
a war of violent ideologies between the ram and the
goat, as interpreted by the book of Daniel:

*Dan 8:5,6 "And as I was considering, behold, a he goat
*came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and
*touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn
*between his eyes. He came toward the two-horned ram I
*had seen standing beside the canal and charged at him
*in great rage.

The he-goat represents the United States, and is often
associated with Satan. An "unblemished goat" also
represents an old-testament sacrifice and burnt offering
to the old-testament G-d of Israel.

The "ram" also represents a sacrifice - like the ram
that was caught in the thicket by his horns - involved
a life (ram) that was to be sacrificed as a "ram of
heaven", whose body is slain, and flesh was eaten.
This ram, according to Daniel's interpretation,
would today represent Bin Laden and Al Queda.

Note here that the overall conflict between sacrifices
is becoming a joke. This is how burdened that this
nation is with Zionism. The "redeemer" to them was,
and still is, not accepted as the "ultimate sacrifice".

American

ref. thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...13ffc619d7ba27

Ultimacy of power. It is big brother in power, religious curtain and
addiction, the curtain that was predicted with cold rogue powers
to come around 1860, formed later by Marx and other hidden figures
behind Capitalist radicalism. Yes radicalism comes with followers,
and worshipping of a formula of power above all cultures in cold rogue
politics, dictatorial sides and cameras in the streets and everywhere.
It is how fascism builds in and declares conspiracies at the top and
degrades humanity of course. Radicalism is religious, like the CCCP,
though opposes religion and culture and becomes it's only
representative
as state power like the old CCCP or Brain, Washington. Religious
governments form a curtain, the Western People's Capitalism is
born with big brother watching as with the streets of UK and coming
to the USA from there. Fascism.

Recently, because of the obvious inability of the most
important shared, time synchronous agreed-upon events
to become percolated over to the promise markets, no
observations have become available except the ones that,
because of transnationalist greed and NWO malfeasance,
negate the positive intentions of the most important
events, such as FTL propulsion, from taking strong
root and enhancing the overall spectrum of promise
market potential.

There are several reasons for this. The primary reason
is the fear of overall energy market and job market
collapse, which is a useless issue when regarding
things such as job retraining, and/or identification
of the transferrable skill sets that are important
to such an industry-wide makeover. However, it's not
that "simple" when one takes into account all or most
of the bureaucracy that has been made to believe that
"gasoline" or even alternatives that are made to "function"
like gasoline will forever be the answer to independent,
public transportation. Most or all of the ideas that have
come forth as "alternatives" need to be re-evaluated
on a completely different and even revolutionary "scale"
as being "replacement" before the both planet earth and
mankind become changed forever - changed by military
and police state oppression, and world
financial subjugation.

The fifth heaven of the "celestial spheres in the bodily
world" relate to Aaron, the high priest mentioned in the
Old Testament, who was responsible for rule over and
"subjugation" of the people of Israel under Pharoah,
and later, Moses. It was Aaron who offered sacrifices
and who performed ceremonies in the sanctuary and at
the altar. In addition, Aaron consecrated the priests of
the Levites and also appeared before the people of
Israel during these ceremonies and meetings.

The problem we have with Aaron and Moses is that,
because of impatience, they were not permitted to
enter the promised land. "...at Meribah (Kadesh) in
the last year of the desert pilgrimage (Num. xx. 12, 13),
when they, or rather Moses, brought water out of a
rock to quench the thirst of the people. The action
was construed as displaying a want of deference to
the Lord, since they had been commanded to speak
to the rock, whereas Moses struck it with the
wonder-working rod (Num. xx. 7-11)."
ref.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron

We can now see how the mountain of our opposition
represents the planet Mars. Neither the spirit of Aaron or
Moses, because of their impatience with the people of
Israel, are permitted to move "extraterrestrially" past
this roadblock in space. There are no other colloraries
in any other religious text about this supernatural
roadblock except in the Old Testament:

Numbers 20, v. 7 - 11:

The Lord said to Moses, "Take the staff, and you and
your brother Aaron gather the assembly together. Speak
to that rock before their eyes and it will pour out its
water. You will bring water out of the rock for the
community so they and their livestock can drink."

So Moses took the staff from the Lord's presence, just
as he commanded him. He and Aaron gathered the
assembly together in front of the rock and Moses
said to them, "Listen, you rebels, must we bring you
water out of this rock?" Then Moses raised his arm
and struck the rock twice with his staff. Water gushed
out, and the community and their livestock drank.

But the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, "Because you
did not trust in me enough to honor me as holy in the
sight of the Israelites, you will not bring this
community into the land I give them."

Thus Moses and Aaron were not able to enter the land
of "milk and honey", whilst only two of those who were
sent out as scouts (Joshua son of Nun and Caleb son of
Jephunneh) were able to enter the promised land 45
years later. For a total of 9-1/2 tribes, 2-1/2 tribes
recieved land east of the Jordan, and the Levites
recieved only towns and pasturelands for their flocks
and herds. Most of the rest of the tribes of Israel
settled around the Jordan river. The "water from the
rock" was definitely a pivotal event for the people
of Israel.

Compare this reaction to Moses to the reply that Jesus
gave to the woman at the well, and one can see that the
"water" that the Lord referred to here was a different
kind of "water", this new "water" being something un-
related to the fifth heaven of the bodily world
"celestial sphere" of Aaron.

John 4, 10:

Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God and who
it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked
him and he would have given you living water."

The spiritual "water" Jesus refers to here is a "spring
of water gushing up into eternal life." The "living water"
here must refer to the "memory water" for some specific
"zero time", e.g.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...01e86a5812438a

Nothing much else needs to be said here except that
anything "Mars related" refers to the spirit of Aaron
and Moses in their quest to lead the children of Israel
around their own mountain of opposition, which NOW
CAN ONLY REPRESENT THE MOUNTAIN OF U.S.
FINANCIAL DEBT.

Mars is ...

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The Vision for Space Exploration might be just as
antiquated as it might have been with the prophets of
old. What seems "new" and "robust" today might also
coincide with some mysterious "handwriting on the wall"
that won't been seen yet by many - because it's regarded
only as a historical document to them - yet "it" was
able to warn at least some of us about some "revelation"
in human consciousness about to take place - conforming
the un-enlightened to some precessional resonance - just
like (it) would do "normally" with the Schumann resonance,
except the metaphysical effect will be much more pervasive
than that. "Fractal resonance" might possibly define the
birth of a new self-similarity, or it might involve a
miniscule dissolution of lightbodies while transporting
an FTL vehicle through hyperspace.

It is this "fractal resonance" that defines how the
expansion or contraction of spacetime becomes mani-
fested from the invisible to the visible, and then back to
the invisible again. The cycle is not so much "round" as
it is "spiral" shaped, or even "cissoid" shaped, but it is
definitely moving inward and through something, as well
as moving outward, trying to subsume everything in its
path. It's like holding the "visible" things at large
while trying to undermine the established reasons for
the "perception of visibility" in the first place.
It's the paradox of Schrodinger's cat, except that
linear superposition does not apply to the metaphysical
constraints of each observer simultaneously. Quantum
superposition is not linear! Only one or another
alternative gets resolved out (read: subsummation
tending towards supersummation, where the "answer"
must lie somewhere "in between"). The "subsummations"
are the pieces of a "participatory" universe (suggested
by John A. Wheeler, 1983) that form the deltronic
consciousness pieces of a living whole, in proportion
and harmony to the "gestation period" of a species.
What gets "observed" is no more "conscious observation"
than it is "unconscious remediation":

There are many eyes around the throne of the Almighty.
That is not to say that all of the "eyes" are humanoid,
or even one kind of "extraterrestrial". The kinds and
types of eyes could sense the presence of radiation from
the extremely invisible to the extremely bright, and what
is "bright" to us could be extremely "invisible" to
another; this "other" lifeform representing some "being"
in another dimension of spacetime. The important thing
here is who the intercessor is that is able to enter the
"throneroom" without incident, and deliver the communi-
cation back to the human race of "believers", these
"believers" ranging from some of the establishment
"bright" to the anti-establishment (or unconscious
establishment) "invisible", or maybe just a piece of the
self-similarity in the "throneroom" MADE TO APPEAR
as a "reflection" for some of the self-similar here
on earth.

Mars represents the "dodecahedron" of earth, circum-
scribed. This "circumscription" represents the things
that are both seen and not seen in the release of meta-
physical energy during wars and death. Since a cube
can be inscribed into an octahedron, and an octa-
hedron can also be inscribed into a cube, and both
the octahedron and cube are isomorphic, as well as
the icosahedron and dodecahedron, there are also
isomorphidities of each of these systems that are
harmonic,or rhysmonic in nature. In fact, 5 different
cubes can be drawn inside a dodecahedron.

As mentioned, The twelve edges on a cube equals
the twelve vertices in an icosahedron, and the twelve
edges of a cube equals the twelve faces of a dodec-
ahedron. So the point is, there are many direct and
indirect connotations to Mars as the dodecahedron
that "subsumes" the earth. Any super- or sub-
summation of these systems of harmonic vibration
that is not in complete phase to this ESTABLISHMENT
COGNIZANT "ISOMORPHIDITY" must metaphysically
operate between terrestrial and extraterrestrial regions,
regions between which there exists little or no memory
water, except that which has ALREADY BEEN GIVEN
TO US, NOT "THEM". WHO ARE "THEY"?

THEY ARE ONLY REFLECTORS OF CONSCIOUSNESS.
MEMORY WATER DOES NOT "CONTAIN" THEM.
AS SUCH, THEY ARE "CONTAINED" BY THEIR OWN
MEMORY WATER. THEY ARE NOT BEINGS
OF LIGHT; THEY WILL ONLY "APPEAR" AS A
BRIGHT LIGHT IN UTTER DARKNESS.

Therefore Mars, the god of war, represents interference
into the realm of harmonically phased and metaphysically
cognizant, isomorphidity in the chosen exchange of super-
and sub-summations of spacetime. Such interference only
validates the non-super- and non-sub-summation properties
of spacetime, or "noise". As such, Mars represents not a
connection, but a barrier to metaphysically cognizant,
extraterrestrial isomorphidities in space travel.

We have to look at all of the isomorphidities of the
Martian perihelions and apehelions, and compare them
to which ones are in phase and out of phase to the
Venusian isomorphidities. It turns out, that w.r.t.
Jupiter, fully 1/8 "out" and "1/5" "in" coherencies for
the isomorphidities of the Venus-earth rhysmonics are
in phase, because Venus represents a minor sixth, while
for Mars, fully 1/6 "out" and "1/5" "in" coherencies for
the isomorphidities of the Mars-earth rhysmonics are in
phase, because Mars represents a minor third in the
chromatic scale. The "chromatic scale", in this instance,
represents the way in which our light bodies "sound"
in harmony to the "Bright and Morning Star", which
in this case, represents the planet Venus.

A minor sixth means that the notes in this particular
minor, scale 8 times for every 5 chromatic scales, or
as 1.60 times the chromatic scale. A minor third meaning
that the notes in this particular minor scale 6 times
for every 5 chromatic scales, or 1.20 times the
chromatic scale.

Note that both Mars and Venus are both "in phase" at
the same juncture with their rhysmonics for the "in"
coherencies. The "out" coherencies SHOULD represent the
unconscious, deltronic mediators of earth-based, geodymic,
environmental isomorphidities in each hierarchy of need
established for the individual. The only time that the
unconscious, deltronic mediators establish a coherency
BETWEEN the "out phases" are at 8 x 6 x 5 = 240, or
one out of every 240 scales that become "sounded" into
the world of light, sound, and gravity; all of this
HAPPENING IN THE INVISIBLE WORLD. These kinds
of scales represent the AUTOMATIC metaphysics of
UNCONSCIOUS DELTRONIC pair and group
dynamical hierarchies more than they do subsumed,
deltronic mediation.

("Where two or more are gathered in His name..")

The frequencies of the major diatonic scale for C3 - C4
are as follows: 256Hz(C3), 288Hz(D3), 320Hz(E3),
341-1/3Hz (F3), 384Hz(G3), 426-2/3Hz(A3), 480Hz(B3),
and 512Hz(C4). The scaling for Venus, representing a
minor sixth, will have a "beat" or "phase" every 5
octaves of the earth-scale, or chromatic scale. This
phenomenon can only "happen" when the earth scale
can actually "sound" or "harmonize" with the Venusian
scale. The Venusian "eclipse cycle" started on June
08, 2004, and will culminate on June 06, 2012. This
means that June 07, 2008 the midpoint of the Venusian
cycle will be reached, which represents the Venus orbit
crossing the ecliptic plane AT THE NORTH NODE.
(Venus will be furthest from the earth at this point).

AT THE NORTH NODE, the position of Venus is exactly
on the other side of the Sun, in a straight line joining
the Earth, Sun, and Venus. This can only mean a time of
great change will come about on the earth plane.

At the same time that Venus NORTH NODE "eclipse
cycle" reaches harmonic resonance, Pluto will reach
a harmonic resonance with those born between
December 22 to January 19, the "zero time" for
individuals representing Capricorn[1]. However, the
Plutonic resonance with these zero-times represent
the "serpent's tail" or "field" BETWEEN the lines of
resonance in the golden spiral for VENUS at June
07, 2008. The line of resonant focus that must
divide the "light" from the "darkness" is our "thief
in the night" as well as our "scarlet thread". The
constellation Gemini will be behind Venus and on
the opposite side of the sun in June, 2008.

Venus is much closer to being at the exact center of the
Earth-Sun-Venus ecliptic in 2008 than it is to being
at the exact center of the ecliptic in either 2004 or
2012. In fact, the only other time that Venus will be
again be closest to the exact center of the "ecliptic"
will be in 6872 A.D.

The minor "sixth" of Venus means that harmonic conver-
gence occurs for the earth chromatic every 6 scales.
There is a 50% rate that Jupiter can "visualize" the
isomorphidity of Venus taking place, but "Venus" will
only make "invisible" its light, when it has become
completely subsumed by the Sun from the Earth's
field of view, and when the reflected light hits
Jupiter most prominately, NOT when it is at an
"occultation" with the Earth and Sun. Venus is
bright to Jupiter when it is in another orbit, which
may or may not be located in opposition to earth.
The luminosity of Venus will be visible to Jupiter,
which is also in the field of view of the "Gliese 581",
which harbours a planet "581C" that was viewed
while in transit to Gliese 581. Venus, which lies
opposite to the earth orbital position around the
Sun on June 07, is also transiting across our own
Sun from the Earth's field of view, NOT quite in the
same ecliptic of Gliese 581c.

If earth-like beings lived on Gliese 581C, and were as
sophisticated as earthlings in detecting extrasolar
transits of planets, they would also be able to
detect the third planet from the Sun, which is Earth,
especially if they were in the business of star mapping
at different locations (approximately 15h 19m and
26.825s lower in declination from the Beta Librae
territory, which happens to be the brightest star in the
constellation Libra). They too could see the earth
transiting through the Sun somewhere between the two
ecliptics. Perhaps there are no "advanced" inhabitants
of Gliese 581C, because they would have recieved our
radio transmissions of 20 - 60 years ago, since their
LY distance is only 20 years.

Mars too has an "invisibility factor" with Venus,
because Mars has made its closest approach to Earth
only on December 18 of last year, and is now orbiting
with Venus only very lightly visible in the daytime sky.
This is because the light from the Sun will cancel out
the reflected light from Venus. The influences from
both orbits of Mars and Earth are in opposition to
Venus, the "Bright and Morning Star".

American

[1] Definitions:

Capricorn (astrology): a person who is born while the sun
is in Capricorn"

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