Torre Bert station - zeus network (Italy 1960-65) ?

Thanks Martin.
Very interesting.

Thierry

"Martin Postranecky" wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, it was written :
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I am achieving a big file about the history of ham radio.
I would like to know if someone could provide me any information,
recording
or picture about the "Torre Bert" station and "Zeus" space tracking
network
that was setup between 1960-1965 in Italy ?
All info is welcome using the form available on my website.



You want to read the Sven Grahn site, see :
http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/trackind/...n1.htm#Various

Also, James Oberg may have something relevant to say, see :

http://www.jamesoberg.com/index.html
http://www.jamesoberg.com/usd10.html

and especially

http://www.astronautix.com/articles/phapart1.htm
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/phapart2.htm


Good luck !

Cheers,
Martin

Yawn....


Gio

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 20:50:18 -0500, "Giovanni Abrate"
wrote:

Yawn....

....I agree. I can tolerate and accept *you* pushing the Lost
Cosmonuts, Geo, because you're -not- psychotic just horribly taken in
by the J-C Bros. This guy, on the other hand, appears totally
clueless. I figure by next week he'll be claiming that the Ark didn't
land on Ararat, but on McKinley.


OM

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OM wrote:

...I agree. I can tolerate and accept *you* pushing the Lost
Cosmonuts, Geo, because you're -not- psychotic just horribly taken in
by the J-C Bros. This guy, on the other hand, appears totally
clueless. I figure by next week he'll be claiming that the Ark didn't
land on Ararat, but on McKinley.


I could never understand how all those animals were supposed to fit in
it; it was only about four or five feet long in that movie where Indiana
Jones found it.... ;-)

pat

"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
...


OM wrote:

...I agree. I can tolerate and accept *you* pushing the Lost
Cosmonuts, Geo, because you're -not- psychotic just horribly taken in
by the J-C Bros. This guy, on the other hand, appears totally
clueless. I figure by next week he'll be claiming that the Ark didn't
land on Ararat, but on McKinley.


I could never understand how all those animals were supposed to fit in
it; it was only about four or five feet long in that movie where Indiana
Jones found it.... ;-)

"Right ... What's a cubit?"
-- Bill Cosby

"John Beaderstadt" wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:41:53 -0600, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org
wrote:
....

Jeez. How long are we going to have to keep going over the same
ground? This quote from the site: "There is still no rational
explanation, nearly ten years after the fall of the communist regimes
of eastern Europe, for the permanence of a curtain of silence over the
loss of a number of soviet cosmonauts, at the beginning of the space
program."

Yes there is a rational explanation: it never happened. Read my sig.


Hi,

I 'd have a tendency to beleive you of course but TASS and the Chinese
Space Agency recently claimed that the Soviets launched and lost several
"secret cosmonauts" before and after the flight of Gagarin...
Of course I wonder who can ever confirm these facts... We need proofs and
evidences, not speeches and for 40 years now we have not the least
confirmation of these accidents... but in any case, without formal proof,
we can not affirm "No there was any", or only at 99% of confidence. As long
as we have not access to all archives, the 1% or so will remain.

Thierry, ON4SKY
http://www.atrosurf.com/lombry




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Pat Flannery wrote:



OM wrote:

...I agree. I can tolerate and accept *you* pushing the Lost
Cosmonuts, Geo, because you're -not- psychotic just horribly taken in
by the J-C Bros. This guy, on the other hand, appears totally
clueless. I figure by next week he'll be claiming that the Ark didn't
land on Ararat, but on McKinley.


I could never understand how all those animals were supposed to fit in
it; it was only about four or five feet long in that movie where Indiana
Jones found it.... ;-)

DNA sequences encoded in quantum memory patterns, Pat. The whole
Moses/Ark/"marching in two by two . . " is a metaphor for interstellar
colonization. At least, that's what the voices in my head tell me when I
forget to line my hat with tinfoil. :-P

--
Herb Schaltegger, B.S., J.D.
Reformed Aerospace Engineer
Remove invalid nonsense for email.

"Herb Schaltegger" lid
wrote in message ...

DNA sequences encoded in quantum memory patterns, Pat. The whole
Moses/Ark/"marching in two by two . . "

Noah: "Riiiight."

Bill Cosby, _Noah_

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 15:46:18 +0800, "Neil Gerace"
wrote:

"Right ... What's a cubit?"

....It's that puzzle Rubit invented back around '80 that took the world
by storm.

OM

--

"No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m
his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr

Amen!
Gio.

"OM" om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote
in message ...

...I agree. I can tolerate and accept *you* pushing the Lost
Cosmonuts, Geo, because you're -not- psychotic just horribly taken in
by the J-C Bros.
OM