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Torre Bert station - zeus network (Italy 1960-65) ?
Hi,
I am achieving a big file about the history of ham radio. I would like to know if someone could provide me any information, recording or picture about the "Torre Bert" station and "Zeus" space tracking network that was setup between 1960-1965 in Italy ? All info is welcome using the form available on my website. Thanks in advance 73 Thierry, ON4SKY http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry Here is a short information extracted from my website (info not published yet). Torre Bert and the Zeus network In Italy for example, by the end of 1960, two young Turino brothers fan of ham radio, Achille and Gian Battista Judica-Cordiglia setup the first amateur tracking station "Torre Bert". Their golad was to picked up the first telemetry signals and other downlinks messages from the first satellites launched by Russia then by NASA. A first in all fields ! While Jodrell Bank had invested 1.6 million sterling pounds to track satellites, that USAF spent 15 millions dollars at Tyngsboro, MA, and that a Turino industrial built a parabolic dish at 2 millions lira, our two young amateurs had only 18,000 lira. So the only solution was to build themselves the equipment. With an extraordinary ingenuity they achieved their objective in a couple of years and were able to track any satellite passing nearby. In 1965 they created the Zeus network that counted 17 stations spread over the world. Their installation was so sophisticated that there were able to forecast 12 hours ahead that Lunik IV launched by Russian to the Moon should miss its target from 8000 km. In fact it flew 8497 km from the Moon. During its short existence, Torre Bert recorded some sensational messages from space. On November 28, 1960 for example they picked up this enigmatic message : "SOS TO ALL WORLD". The message was transmitted from a spacecraft in movement and was sent three times. Amateurs in Germany and Texas received the same message. Three days later, Russian recognized that one of their launches failed, but they didn't make allusion to a human passenger. A similar recording was picked up on May 17, 1961 coming from a crew of several cosmonauts. Nobody will never know what happened as long as Russian will not decide to speak. A third message was recorded on February 1961. Presented to the famous hearth surgeon Dr Dogliotti, he affirmed that we heard the fast beating of a dying hearth. The brothers were convinced that Russian didn't shrink from sacrifying human lifes to affirm their mastering of space. In 1964, after have won 1,8 millions lira at a TV-game dealing with the space conquest, our young Turino visited the USA and the various space centers of Alabama, Florida, Maryland and Texas, where they did the admiration of American engineers by the extent of their know-how. Slowly hams were preparing their entry in the world of space communication. Thierry, ON4SKY |
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On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:58:23 +0100, "Thierry" To answer me in private
use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote: 73 Thierry, ON4SKY ....Man, that callsign is just too scarily coincedental for my tastes :-) OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr |
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On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:58:23 +0100, "Thierry" To answer me in private
use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote: During its short existence, Torre Bert recorded some sensational messages from space. On November 28, 1960 for example they picked up this enigmatic message : "SOS TO ALL WORLD". ....Well, if there wasn't a justification for a ban on cloning, this has to be it. Geo, anything you want to tell us about your "kid" here? OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr |
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OK, I found the info here http://www.lostcosmonauts.com/
It is not impartial but some links are. Thierry "Thierry" To answer me in private use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote in message ... Hi, I am achieving a big file about the history of ham radio. I would like to know if someone could provide me any information, recording or picture about the "Torre Bert" station and "Zeus" space tracking network that was setup between 1960-1965 in Italy ? All info is welcome using the form available on my website. Thanks in advance 73 Thierry, ON4SKY http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry Here is a short information extracted from my website (info not published yet). Torre Bert and the Zeus network In Italy for example, by the end of 1960, two young Turino brothers fan of ham radio, Achille and Gian Battista Judica-Cordiglia setup the first amateur tracking station "Torre Bert". Their golad was to picked up the first telemetry signals and other downlinks messages from the first satellites launched by Russia then by NASA. A first in all fields ! While Jodrell Bank had invested 1.6 million sterling pounds to track satellites, that USAF spent 15 millions dollars at Tyngsboro, MA, and that a Turino industrial built a parabolic dish at 2 millions lira, our two young amateurs had only 18,000 lira. So the only solution was to build themselves the equipment. With an extraordinary ingenuity they achieved their objective in a couple of years and were able to track any satellite passing nearby. In 1965 they created the Zeus network that counted 17 stations spread over the world. Their installation was so sophisticated that there were able to forecast 12 hours ahead that Lunik IV launched by Russian to the Moon should miss its target from 8000 km. In fact it flew 8497 km from the Moon. During its short existence, Torre Bert recorded some sensational messages from space. On November 28, 1960 for example they picked up this enigmatic message : "SOS TO ALL WORLD". The message was transmitted from a spacecraft in movement and was sent three times. Amateurs in Germany and Texas received the same message. Three days later, Russian recognized that one of their launches failed, but they didn't make allusion to a human passenger. A similar recording was picked up on May 17, 1961 coming from a crew of several cosmonauts. Nobody will never know what happened as long as Russian will not decide to speak. A third message was recorded on February 1961. Presented to the famous hearth surgeon Dr Dogliotti, he affirmed that we heard the fast beating of a dying hearth. The brothers were convinced that Russian didn't shrink from sacrifying human lifes to affirm their mastering of space. In 1964, after have won 1,8 millions lira at a TV-game dealing with the space conquest, our young Turino visited the USA and the various space centers of Alabama, Florida, Maryland and Texas, where they did the admiration of American engineers by the extent of their know-how. Slowly hams were preparing their entry in the world of space communication. Thierry, ON4SKY |
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On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 00:30:14 +0100, "Thierry" To answer me in private
use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote: OK, I found the info here http://www.lostcosmonauts.com/ ....Anyone who didn't see this one coming deserves to be bitchslapped :-P OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr |
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OM wrote: ...Anyone who didn't see this one coming deserves to be bitchslapped And then wrapped in the Holy Shroud Of Turin, with a bronze I Ching coin over each eye. Pat |
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On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:41:53 -0600, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote: On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 00:30:14 +0100, "Thierry" To answer me in private use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote: OK, I found the info here http://www.lostcosmonauts.com/ ...Anyone who didn't see this one coming deserves to be bitchslapped Jeez. How long are we going to have to keep going over the same ground? This quote from the site: "There is still no rational explanation, nearly ten years after the fall of the communist regimes of eastern Europe, for the permanence of a curtain of silence over the loss of a number of soviet cosmonauts, at the beginning of the space program." Yes there is a rational explanation: it never happened. Read my sig. -------------- Beady's Corollary to Occam's Razor: "The likeliest explanation of any phenomenon is almost always the most boring one imaginable." -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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"John Beaderstadt" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:41:53 -0600, OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote: .... Jeez. How long are we going to have to keep going over the same ground? This quote from the site: "There is still no rational explanation, nearly ten years after the fall of the communist regimes of eastern Europe, for the permanence of a curtain of silence over the loss of a number of soviet cosmonauts, at the beginning of the space program." Yes there is a rational explanation: it never happened. Read my sig. Hi, I 'd have a tendency to beleive you of course but TASS and the Chinese Space Agency recently claimed that the Soviets launched and lost several "secret cosmonauts" before and after the flight of Gagarin... Of course I wonder who can ever confirm these facts... We need proofs and evidences, not speeches and for 40 years now we have not the least confirmation of these accidents... but in any case, without formal proof, we can not affirm "No there was any", or only at 99% of confidence. As long as we have not access to all archives, the 1% or so will remain. Thierry, ON4SKY http://www.atrosurf.com/lombry -------------- Beady's Corollary to Occam's Razor: "The likeliest explanation of any phenomenon is almost always the most boring one imaginable." -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Thierry wrote: OK, I found the info here http://www.lostcosmonauts.com/ It is not impartial but some links are. Thierry You may want to read this also: http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/ .....and more specifically, this part of Sven's site: http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/trackind/Torre/TorreB.html Pat |
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Indeed. I knew this info.
Lostcosmonaut if far to be impartial and objective about the recordings.... In the meantime I had the brothers website url too : http://www.judicacordiglia.com/ I also learnt that they were preparing the publication of a book dealing with Torre Bert, not yet released. I tried to contact them, no answer up to know. Thanks. Thierry, ON4SKY "Pat Flannery" wrote in message ... Thierry wrote: OK, I found the info here http://www.lostcosmonauts.com/ It is not impartial but some links are. Thierry You may want to read this also: http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/ ....and more specifically, this part of Sven's site: http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/trackind/Torre/TorreB.html Pat |
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