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Old October 26th 10, 05:10 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.astro
George[_6_]
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Thanks, Rick. I'll check it out.

George

"Rick Johnson" wrote in message
ster.com...

On 10/21/2010 12:43 PM, George wrote:


"Rick Johnson" wrote in message
ster.com...

If you didn't pay for them they are stolen. It is also illegal to give
them freely as you have done. The fact someone else acted illegally
distributing them doesn't change that. That's what the copyright means.
If you paid for them you of course have the right to use them BUT NOT
to distribute them to others.
Rick

I'm glad you pointed this out, Rick. I thought what he had posted was
simply someone's presets that they had devised. So I guess I 'll be
deleting it. No big deal. Never figured out how to access them anyway.

George


There are some very useful free plugins for PS out there. This isn't
one of them. Hasta Lavista Green is a great one for instance. I use it
on nearly all my images. Can really help color balance when a faint
green sky glow screws things up which is quite common at my latitude.
But even then the author only authorizes it for personal use and not
distribution requiring that come only from his website. That ensures
you get the latest version and access to instructions though those
aren't really needed.

In the case of Carboni's astronomy tools these actions are very useful
and well worth the $23 or so he is asking for them. A one man operation
can't have a legal department to enforce his product license. Such
actions are not easily protected, he has to rely on the honesty of his
customers.

The actions are specific to each version of PS. So those for CS won't
work on CS2 or any other version though in some cases they will appear
to, usually something isn't right and the action doesn't work as it
should. That might be why you couldn't get them to work.

I found their main usefulness was in teaching me the finer points of PS.
By looking at each step of the action I learned a lot and how to make
actions better tuned to my imaging. They are a one size fits all type
of thing and this is fine if your imaging needs fit, mine usually
didn't. But I learned how to make them that do. Far cheaper than the
$100 CDs out there. The price is certainly very reasonable for what I
gained out of them.

I don't use noise reduction at least in the sense most mean by the term.
But many swear by his two noise reduction routines as worth the cost
alone. I prefer my system but it is more time consuming than just
clicking one of his actions. If you have preserved star color by not
allowing stars to come near saturation either when imaged or during
processing then his increase star color action is very good. I do
sometimes still use it when in a hurry. If color data is poor in that
the star sizes vary for a white star then the routine can hurt rather
than help but when all three channels are equal as to FWHM it works
great. The ability to create a synthetic green channel is great for
making color images from the POSS red and blue FITS images. There are
many other actions but they aren't ones I use but many do.

Rick

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Old October 26th 10, 07:52 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.astro
Rick Johnson[_2_]
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On 10/25/2010 11:10 PM, George wrote:
Thanks, Rick. I'll check it out.


I find it best to run HLVG on the RGB image just before combining with
the L image. If done after the combine sometimes a galaxy will dim
considerably. Why I can't fathom. Author who was one of the main AIC
speakers this year, mentions this on the website. If the combine has
been made then copy the combine to a second layer, run HLVG on the top
layer then recombine in color mode. The dimmed object will return to
normal intensity level again. He as a couple other free ones as well
but I do those things another way. HLVG can help a lot of color balance
issues even when green isn't the obvious problem. Now if you have a
green object it will be deadly as it doesn't allow them to be selected out.

I found an easy work around. Just before running on the RGB image make
a duplicate layer. In that layer use the magic wand or ellipse tool to
select the green object in the upper layer. Now press Control-X. You
have just copied the green object to the clipboard. That is of no
importance. What is important is that you also cut it out from the
upper layer. Now run HLVG on that upper layer then flatten the image.
The green object will be preserved while the overall color balance is
improved.

Rick


George

"Rick Johnson" wrote in message
ster.com...

On 10/21/2010 12:43 PM, George wrote:


"Rick Johnson" wrote in message
ster.com...

If you didn't pay for them they are stolen. It is also illegal to give
them freely as you have done. The fact someone else acted illegally
distributing them doesn't change that. That's what the copyright means.
If you paid for them you of course have the right to use them BUT NOT
to distribute them to others.
Rick

I'm glad you pointed this out, Rick. I thought what he had posted was
simply someone's presets that they had devised. So I guess I 'll be
deleting it. No big deal. Never figured out how to access them anyway.

George


There are some very useful free plugins for PS out there. This isn't
one of them. Hasta Lavista Green is a great one for instance. I use it
on nearly all my images. Can really help color balance when a faint
green sky glow screws things up which is quite common at my latitude.
But even then the author only authorizes it for personal use and not
distribution requiring that come only from his website. That ensures
you get the latest version and access to instructions though those
aren't really needed.

In the case of Carboni's astronomy tools these actions are very useful
and well worth the $23 or so he is asking for them. A one man operation
can't have a legal department to enforce his product license. Such
actions are not easily protected, he has to rely on the honesty of his
customers.

The actions are specific to each version of PS. So those for CS won't
work on CS2 or any other version though in some cases they will appear
to, usually something isn't right and the action doesn't work as it
should. That might be why you couldn't get them to work.

I found their main usefulness was in teaching me the finer points of PS.
By looking at each step of the action I learned a lot and how to make
actions better tuned to my imaging. They are a one size fits all type
of thing and this is fine if your imaging needs fit, mine usually
didn't. But I learned how to make them that do. Far cheaper than the
$100 CDs out there. The price is certainly very reasonable for what I
gained out of them.

I don't use noise reduction at least in the sense most mean by the term.
But many swear by his two noise reduction routines as worth the cost
alone. I prefer my system but it is more time consuming than just
clicking one of his actions. If you have preserved star color by not
allowing stars to come near saturation either when imaged or during
processing then his increase star color action is very good. I do
sometimes still use it when in a hurry. If color data is poor in that
the star sizes vary for a white star then the routine can hurt rather
than help but when all three channels are equal as to FWHM it works
great. The ability to create a synthetic green channel is great for
making color images from the POSS red and blue FITS images. There are
many other actions but they aren't ones I use but many do.

Rick



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Correct domain name is arvig and it is net not com. Prefix is correct.
Third character is a zero rather than a capital "Oh".
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Old October 27th 10, 04:43 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.astro
George[_6_]
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Default ASTRO: AstroTools - PhotoShop Action(s) - 1 attachment

Neat trick. I'll have to try that some time. Thanks, Rick.

George

"Rick Johnson" wrote in message
ter.com...

On 10/25/2010 11:10 PM, George wrote:
Thanks, Rick. I'll check it out.


I find it best to run HLVG on the RGB image just before combining with
the L image. If done after the combine sometimes a galaxy will dim
considerably. Why I can't fathom. Author who was one of the main AIC
speakers this year, mentions this on the website. If the combine has
been made then copy the combine to a second layer, run HLVG on the top
layer then recombine in color mode. The dimmed object will return to
normal intensity level again. He as a couple other free ones as well
but I do those things another way. HLVG can help a lot of color balance
issues even when green isn't the obvious problem. Now if you have a
green object it will be deadly as it doesn't allow them to be selected out.

I found an easy work around. Just before running on the RGB image make
a duplicate layer. In that layer use the magic wand or ellipse tool to
select the green object in the upper layer. Now press Control-X. You
have just copied the green object to the clipboard. That is of no
importance. What is important is that you also cut it out from the
upper layer. Now run HLVG on that upper layer then flatten the image.
The green object will be preserved while the overall color balance is
improved.

Rick


George

"Rick Johnson" wrote in message
ster.com...

On 10/21/2010 12:43 PM, George wrote:


"Rick Johnson" wrote in message
ster.com...

If you didn't pay for them they are stolen. It is also illegal to give
them freely as you have done. The fact someone else acted illegally
distributing them doesn't change that. That's what the copyright means.
If you paid for them you of course have the right to use them BUT NOT
to distribute them to others.
Rick

I'm glad you pointed this out, Rick. I thought what he had posted was
simply someone's presets that they had devised. So I guess I 'll be
deleting it. No big deal. Never figured out how to access them anyway.

George


There are some very useful free plugins for PS out there. This isn't
one of them. Hasta Lavista Green is a great one for instance. I use it
on nearly all my images. Can really help color balance when a faint
green sky glow screws things up which is quite common at my latitude.
But even then the author only authorizes it for personal use and not
distribution requiring that come only from his website. That ensures
you get the latest version and access to instructions though those
aren't really needed.

In the case of Carboni's astronomy tools these actions are very useful
and well worth the $23 or so he is asking for them. A one man operation
can't have a legal department to enforce his product license. Such
actions are not easily protected, he has to rely on the honesty of his
customers.

The actions are specific to each version of PS. So those for CS won't
work on CS2 or any other version though in some cases they will appear
to, usually something isn't right and the action doesn't work as it
should. That might be why you couldn't get them to work.

I found their main usefulness was in teaching me the finer points of PS.
By looking at each step of the action I learned a lot and how to make
actions better tuned to my imaging. They are a one size fits all type
of thing and this is fine if your imaging needs fit, mine usually
didn't. But I learned how to make them that do. Far cheaper than the
$100 CDs out there. The price is certainly very reasonable for what I
gained out of them.

I don't use noise reduction at least in the sense most mean by the term.
But many swear by his two noise reduction routines as worth the cost
alone. I prefer my system but it is more time consuming than just
clicking one of his actions. If you have preserved star color by not
allowing stars to come near saturation either when imaged or during
processing then his increase star color action is very good. I do
sometimes still use it when in a hurry. If color data is poor in that
the star sizes vary for a white star then the routine can hurt rather
than help but when all three channels are equal as to FWHM it works
great. The ability to create a synthetic green channel is great for
making color images from the POSS red and blue FITS images. There are
many other actions but they aren't ones I use but many do.

Rick



--
Correct domain name is arvig and it is net not com. Prefix is correct.
Third character is a zero rather than a capital "Oh".

 




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