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Old March 11th 14, 04:43 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:27:39 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 03:37:50 -0700 (PDT), wsnell01 wrote:


Perhaps Congress needs to adjust its priorities, with less wasted on pork (vote buying) and more spent on space (not Earth) exploration.


I'd agree with that.


You aren't agreeing.

We could scale back military spending by more
than 50% over the next decade or two.


The military is not the pork here. The military protects the entire country, whereas pork barrel expenditures are favors to local constituencies, expenditures not spelled out in the Constitution, BTW.


That would free up enough money
for countless useful projects- projects that would actually generate
revenue. Space exploration, alternative energy, medical research.


Money saved on any reduced military spending is to remain in the pockets of the taxpayers.

As we now know with a high degree
of certainty that the world is in deep trouble due to climate change,
and part of NASA's primary charter is studying the Earth and its
climate, it makes good sense they should shift what resources they
have to that. Understanding the Earth in more detail has become the
most important thing NASA can do.


Wrong. Its most important duty has always been and still is, to develop space hardware, especially launch vehicles.


Studying the Earth and its climate has been a primary component of its
charter since day one. That doesn't exclude the other stuff.


But you suggested in your earlier post:

"studying the Earth and its climate, it makes good sense they should shift
what resources they have to that"

That effectively excludes the "other stuff" which then leaves the US without a space program. But that's what you socialists have wanted all along.

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Old March 11th 14, 05:26 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:27:39 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 03:37:50 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



Perhaps Congress needs to adjust its priorities, with less wasted on pork (vote buying) and more spent on space (not Earth) exploration.




I'd agree with that. We could scale back military spending by more

than 50% over the next decade or two. That would free up enough money

for countless useful projects- projects that would actually generate

revenue. Space exploration, alternative energy, medical research.



As we now know with a high degree


of certainty that the world is in deep trouble due to climate change,


and part of NASA's primary charter is studying the Earth and its


climate, it makes good sense they should shift what resources they


have to that. Understanding the Earth in more detail has become the


most important thing NASA can do.




Wrong. Its most important duty has always been and still is, to develop space hardware, especially launch vehicles.




Studying the Earth and its climate has been a primary component of its

charter since day one. That doesn't exclude the other stuff.


Do you know how many agencies have gotten in on this gravy train, how many scientists, bureaucrats and politicians have their noses in the trough, thinking they've hit the jackpot? Global warming is being defended by people who want "STATE-sponsored jobs for life."
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Old March 11th 14, 05:57 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 09:26:23 -0700 (PDT), RichA
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Do you know how many agencies have gotten in on this gravy train, how many scientists, bureaucrats and politicians have their noses in the trough, thinking they've hit the jackpot? Global warming is being defended by people who want "STATE-sponsored jobs for life."


Since global warming is the single greatest threat we face, it is good
that there are a number of different agencies involved.
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Old March 11th 14, 06:23 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Don Kuenz wrote:
oriel36 wrote:

So let's see where NASA is at in understanding the Earth -

"The Earth spins on its axis about 366 and 1/4 times each year, but
there are only 365 and 1/4 days per year. This is because we define a
day not based on the Earth's period of rotation, but based on the
average time from noon one day to noon the next. Gradually over the
course of a year the Sun appears to go 'backwards' (West to East)
around the Earth compared to the far away stars (this is because we
are really going around the Sun). Subtracting this 1 time backwards
from the 366 and 1/4 times forward, we get the typical 365 and 1/4
days per year." NASA

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/as...rs/970714.html

I don't know what people have against the actual architecture where
the apparent motion of Sirius along the ecliptic and behind the glare
of the Sun fixes the Earth's orbital position in space with its first
appearance. The drift backwards into the Sun's glare by a 6 hour
amount of orbital motion with each 365 day cycle accumulates to an
entire rotation after 4 circuits hence the appearance skips a day.


Does anyone know of a publicly accessible website that provides a daily
log of Sun and/or Sirius sightings (positions)? TIA.

--

Don Kuenz


download Sellarium.
Its free

http://www.stellarium.org/en_GB/
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Old March 11th 14, 08:11 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"Don Kuenz" wrote in message ...

oriel36 wrote:

So let's see where NASA is at in understanding the Earth -

"The Earth spins on its axis about 366 and 1/4 times each year, but
there are only 365 and 1/4 days per year. This is because we define a
day not based on the Earth's period of rotation, but based on the
average time from noon one day to noon the next. Gradually over the
course of a year the Sun appears to go 'backwards' (West to East)
around the Earth compared to the far away stars (this is because we
are really going around the Sun). Subtracting this 1 time backwards
from the 366 and 1/4 times forward, we get the typical 365 and 1/4
days per year." NASA

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/as...rs/970714.html

I don't know what people have against the actual architecture where
the apparent motion of Sirius along the ecliptic and behind the glare
of the Sun fixes the Earth's orbital position in space with its first
appearance. The drift backwards into the Sun's glare by a 6 hour
amount of orbital motion with each 365 day cycle accumulates to an
entire rotation after 4 circuits hence the appearance skips a day.


Does anyone know of a publicly accessible website that provides a daily
log of Sun and/or Sirius sightings (positions)? TIA.

--

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Dunno about a website, but a guy I know commutes daily between Tokelau Samoa
and American Samoa on a Jet ski red eye and he says he skips days when he's
working the graveyard shift just as Kelleher wants. Other days he sometimes
lives through twice.
http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/dateln.gif

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

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Old March 11th 14, 08:24 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Mike Collins wrote:
Don Kuenz wrote:


Does anyone know of a publicly accessible website that provides a daily
log of Sun and/or Sirius sightings (positions)? TIA.


download Sellarium.
Its free

http://www.stellarium.org/en_GB/


Thank you Mike. The BSD port of stellarium is one of the easier packages
to install. It runs without a hitch and its database even came preloaded
with data for my relatively small home town.

It's night vision (red) feature ought to prove quite useful on a laptop
in the field. Just as soon as it warms up a bit more I intend to take
my Orion EQ2-mounted-Bausch & Lomb-Pentax contraption out to the field
for a little amateur astronomy.

Thank you again.

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Old March 11th 14, 11:04 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:23:34 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
Don Kuenz wrote:

oriel36 wrote:




So let's see where NASA is at in understanding the Earth -




"The Earth spins on its axis about 366 and 1/4 times each year, but


there are only 365 and 1/4 days per year. This is because we define a


day not based on the Earth's period of rotation, but based on the


average time from noon one day to noon the next. Gradually over the


course of a year the Sun appears to go 'backwards' (West to East)


around the Earth compared to the far away stars (this is because we


are really going around the Sun). Subtracting this 1 time backwards


from the 366 and 1/4 times forward, we get the typical 365 and 1/4


days per year." NASA




http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/as...rs/970714.html




I don't know what people have against the actual architecture where


the apparent motion of Sirius along the ecliptic and behind the glare


of the Sun fixes the Earth's orbital position in space with its first


appearance. The drift backwards into the Sun's glare by a 6 hour


amount of orbital motion with each 365 day cycle accumulates to an


entire rotation after 4 circuits hence the appearance skips a day.




Does anyone know of a publicly accessible website that provides a daily


log of Sun and/or Sirius sightings (positions)? TIA.




--




Don Kuenz




download Sellarium.

Its free



http://www.stellarium.org/en_GB/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x5pbI5E3P4

Just another homocentric timekeeping average program with no appreciation of the apparent motion of the constellations behind the central Sun as the Earth orbits along the ecliptic plane -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeQwYrfmvoQ

Grown men mesmerized by the constellations moving in stellar circumpolar motion and unable to make the majestic distinctions the great astronomers once made.

No need to rail against NASA who is overrun by celestial sphere addicts and have managed to get the taxpayers to pay for the upkeep of a cult that continues to indoctrinate students. That chain of indoctrination has now been broken.









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Old March 11th 14, 11:17 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:04:12 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

No need to rail against NASA who is overrun by celestial sphere addicts and have managed to get the taxpayers to pay for the upkeep of a cult that continues to indoctrinate students. That chain of indoctrination has now been broken.


Only in your dreams, Gerald, that link is far from broken...

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