Why do you cool a telescope?

In article , Paul Schlyter wrote:

OK, I've never been there so I you can tell that better than me. But
why is the city (town? village?) called Palm Springs?

The same reason Greenland is called Greenland. Those Vikings were real
estate promoters, too.

Deserts also have wells and aqueducts.

The deserts out west are very deserty, but they are stony rather than
sandy.

"William Hamblen" wrote

Deserts also have wells and aqueducts.

Well, why a duck?




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In article ,
Mike Simmons wrote:

Palms and springs occur in deserts.

Yep, they're calles oases..... :-)

Your idea that a desert has to be nothing but sand dunes is based on
one experience in one desert.

....and that "one desert" happened to be the world's largest desert,
i.e. the Sahara desert. But never mind that unimportant detail.... :-)

And it's wrong. I've been to the desert of the Arabian Peninsula
that you mentioned and guess what? No sand dunes but there are palms
and springs.

Are there no sand dunes at all over the entire Arabian peninsula?
Or are you just referring to the oases you visited?

But different than the Sonoran Desert of the US and Mexico --
which despite your ignorance of the matter is one of the great
deserts of the world.

It's the largest desert in North America. But it's smaller than the
great deserts in Africa, Asia, Australia and South America. Only
Europe lacks a desert larger than the Sonoran desert (I don't think
we have any deserts at all).

The Gobi is different still, as is Antarctica and the summit of
Mount Everest, both of which are deserts.

Now you're stretching the definition a bit. But technically you're
correct. And there must also be parts of the world's oceans which
technically are deserts, since there's very little precipitation
there. Thus it's possible to "drown in the desert", if you choose
the appropriate desert for drowning: a part of the ocean with very
little precipitation.


If I were to use your methods then based on your comments I might
generalize and conclude that all Swedes are ignorant and unable to learn
when corrected by knowledgeable people. But, fortunately, I don't
follow that pattern -- and I've met very knowledgeable and reasonable
Swedes.

Since you implicitly claim I'm "ignorant and unable to learn when
corrected by knowledgeable people", is that why I post stuff like this:

# From: "Howard Lester"
# Message-ID:
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# "Paul Schlyter" wrote
#
# OK, I've never been there so I you can tell that better than me. But
# why is the city (town? village?) called Palm Springs?
#
# For the same 'reason' we have rivers in Tucson. ;^) (they're all dry
# riverbeds)

THINK before you post, will you?

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In article ,
bwhiting wrote:

Hey, you guys are giving Paul a bum-rap....
I've never heard him bad-mouth the USA...
You are confusing him with that
Kayak-khan-al\mohameed-Maji-Hameed guy...
that A-rab who was the terriorist from
the mid-east who wished the USA ill-will on 7/4.
Clear Skies,
Tom W.

Actually, I have from time to time been critical to some aspects of
the US. And some americans have a national pride a bit too large to
be able to handle that.

But I never wished anyone dead or injured, and I never will !

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In article ,
Cousin Ricky wrote:

(Paul Schlyter) wrote in message ...
After I had returned home, it took almost a week before I had washed
away that orange-ish very fine sand from my hair.....

At least you got rid of it. I have to *observe* through some of it,
as it blows clear across the Atlantic Ocean.

That dust gets up here too: whenever we have very hot and clear
weather, the air is usually "white as milk" due to large amounts of
dust in the air.

But it's even worse down the when I visited Nouakchott, I
naturally tried to observe the southern skies --- but I was unable to
see ANYTHING below about 20 degrees altitude, due to large amounts of
dust in the air. And that was a disappointment. Even the Sun was
invisible at sunrise, and didn't get visible until several degrees
above the horizon.

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Well, thank you Paul...I'm glad you don't 'wish me dead'. :-)

BTW, I only picked 110 degree night desert temperature to
be ironic and facicous...using an extreme as an example where
sometimes conditions require you to 'warm' a scope,
as opposed to the normal 'cooling it down'...just to
site an example that a scope should reach equilibrium...
I really wasn't serious about the 110 degrees F!!!
Sorry- you took me too seriously!
Clear Skies,
Tom W.




Paul Schlyter wrote:
In article ,
bwhiting wrote:


Hey, you guys are giving Paul a bum-rap....
I've never heard him bad-mouth the USA...
You are confusing him with that
Kayak-khan-al\mohameed-Maji-Hameed guy...
that A-rab who was the terriorist from
the mid-east who wished the USA ill-will on 7/4.
Clear Skies,
Tom W.


Actually, I have from time to time been critical to some aspects of
the US. And some americans have a national pride a bit too large to
be able to handle that.

But I never wished anyone dead or injured, and I never will !

Hackenbush:
You see the water flows under the bridge and the patient walks over
the bridge and meets the pill on the other side.

Howard Lester wrote:
"William Hamblen" wrote


Deserts also have wells and aqueducts.


Well, why a duck?




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Paul Schlyter wrote:

Now you're stretching the definition a bit. But technically you're
correct. And there must also be parts of the world's oceans which
technically are deserts, since there's very little precipitation
there. Thus it's possible to "drown in the desert", if you choose
the appropriate desert for drowning: a part of the ocean with very
little precipitation.

Actually, drowning is a problem in the Arizona-Sonora Desert. This is
because of the monsoon rains. When it rains, there is little on the
ground to hold water and flash floods develop. It seems that about every
year people are swept away in flash floods during the July and August
rains.

In Wickenburg AZ, the highway department has maintained a little joke on
the bridge crossing the Hassayampa River for at least 50 years that I
can remember. The Hassayampa rarely has water in it (though it
occasionally floods). There are "No Fishing From Bridge" signs on the
bridge. I never tried to fish in the Hassayampa but I have driven a four
wheel drive truck in it.
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... The times have been,
That, when the brains were out,
the man would die. ... Macbeth
Chuck Simmons

On the north end of town, you can hike up into Palm Canyon, with a =
perennial
stream under the shade of thousands of date palms. One of the richest =
aquifers
in California lies directly under Palm Springs. The town is right at =
the base of
Mt San Jacinto, with a height over 10,000 feet. Even though it is on =
the dry
side, the mountains collect plenty of snow and a lot of that moisture =
works its
way down to the east side.


Very good! Except that Palm Canyon is south of town, not north. ;-)

-Florian

"William Hamblen" wrote in message
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In article , Paul Schlyter wrote:

OK, I've never been there so I you can tell that better than me. But
why is the city (town? village?) called Palm Springs?


I was raised in Palm Springs. Taquitz Falls at the base of Mt. San Juacinto
is a beautiful waterfall that few know about, as it is on Indian land. Back
in the 70s, I believe it was, the Indians closed off the land because of
what was felt to be abusive behavior and litter.

Anyway, there are palms and not only springs, but hot springs around (Desert
Hot Springs), and thus the name.

Harvey
PS. Not really sure what this has to do with astronomy, but what the heck. I
came in in the middle of the thread...