"Deep Impact" mission; designed to deceive?

Kyoto is a FRUAD and global warming is a mechanism to shift wealth
and jobs from the West to the "have nots."
-Rich

You sure have a gift for sucking your toes!! YOU FRUAD

Rich is just another brainless troll who doesn't have enough braincells to
know anything. He joined the other trolls and screwballs in my killfile a
long time ago. Hay, he shares the same love of bush as D.min does! Maybe
they should live together?

"Ike" wrote in message
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Kyoto is a FRUAD and global warming is a mechanism to shift wealth
and jobs from the West to the "have nots."
-Rich

You sure have a gift for sucking your toes!! YOU FRUAD

On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:27:13 -0700, "Starlord"
wrote:

Rich is just another brainless troll who doesn't have enough braincells to
know anything. He joined the other trolls and screwballs in my killfile a
long time ago. Hay, he shares the same love of bush as D.min does! Maybe
they should live together?

"Ike" wrote in message
news:hnYxe.129997$on1.101525@clgrps13...


Kyoto is a FRUAD and global warming is a mechanism to shift wealth
and jobs from the West to the "have nots."
-Rich

You sure have a gift for sucking your toes!! YOU FRUAD



Coming from a hayseed, that's funny.
-Rich

How else can you explain why 2/3 of the planet are
exempt from participating, principally, Indian and China

Once again, your rant distorts the facts. In fact, 84 countries have
signed the Kyoto Protocol and 150 countries have either ratified,
accepted, approved or assented, including China and India. Although
several of those countries have no emissions targets (in the context of
the Protocol), they are nonetheless "participating".

http://unfccc.int/files/essential_ba...df/kpstats.pdf

global warming is a mechanism to shift wealth and jobs from
the West to the "have nots.

Norway, Australia and Iceland, which most people would consider part of
the "West", are in fact allowed to *increase* their emissions:

http://unfccc.int/essential_backgrou...items/3145.php

In summary, you talk like a Nazi and know even less.

AstroHoney

RichA wrote:
Global warming supporters don't believe in data, they believe in dogma.

How true.

There are two simple experiments anyone can perform to begin a basis
for
further discussion:

Experiment 1. Place a pot of cold water atop one's stove. Turn the
stove
on, and observe what happens. [hint: the water warms up]

Experiment 2. Continue heating the water from experiment #1 until it
boils,
then place an ice cube into the water and observe what happens. [hint:
the
ice cube melts and disappears]

From those two experiments, let's look at some of the data collected by
NASA, various oceanographic research institutes, etc. and see how the
observed data from the two experiments is applied to the real world.

Step 1. Some 1600+ (that's one thousand, six hundred and some) undersea
active volcanos have been more-or-less recently discovered off the
coast
of Chile (located at the Eastern edge of the Pacific Ocean). Coupling
that finding with other Pacific Ocean undersea vulcanism (Hawaii, et
al)
it looks like we now have a reasonable causative agent for the El Nino
(warm) currents in the Pacific Ocean which affect global weather.

Step 2. Undersea vulcanism has been recently discovered under the North
Polar icecap and, per experiment #2, can account for the shrinking of
Earth's North polar icecap. Similarly, vulcanism has been discovered
in the South polar region and can account for diminishing ice there,
too,
though other areas of the South Polar region are experiencing INCREASED
ice
formation.

NOW, throwing in data from the Goddard Institute for Space Studies,
Columbia University (New York (GISS)), the Jones et al data from the
Climate Research Unit, University of East Anglia, Norwich UK (CRU), and
the Global Historical Climatology Network (GHCN) maintained by the
National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) and the Carbon Dioxide Information
and Analysis Center (CDIAC) of Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Oak
Ridge,
Tennessee, we see that any claim for global warming is pure BULL****.

I don't have time to document (here) all the data, but YOU (any
disbeliever)
can start at:

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/data/update/gistemp/station%20data/

which records some 140+ years of temperature data from worldwide.

Sure, cities like New York have gotten warmer (thanks to population
increase and more use of concrete), but other areas (just as important)
have gotten colder.

Global warming? BULL****.

If anything, we're headed to (yet another) ice age in a millenium or
so.

wrote:

Thomas Swanson wrote:

Global warming is a fact.

It's happening on Mars, too (based on smaller ice caps each year for
the
past 40+ years or so).

So unless you concede Martians are driving their SUVs with wild
abandon,
"something else" must be the cause (perhaps the Sun?).

About half of the Earth's warming over the past 100 years comes from
increased solar flux. The other half which only became non-neglible in
the past four decades looks distinctly anthropogenic. Even GW sceptic
scientists agree on this part - it isn't possible any more to get energy
balance without incorporating changes in atmospheric greenhouse gas
concentrations. And on Mars atmospheric feedback is even more pronounced.

That there is a solar flux component to GW is not in doubt, but it is
not the only component and crucially since about 1980 on Earth it isn't
the major one.

Satellite monitoring of solar flux prevents the fallacious claim that it
must all be due to variations in the sun's output.

I'd say "ocean warming" is more a fact than "global warming" if one
looks at
actual data.

Indeed. That is one of the symptoms. Oceans cover 75% of the Earth's
surface (and increasing as the land based glaciers melt and warm water
expands both of which will cause sea levels to rise).

Regards,
Martin Brown

"Global warming science is grounded on evidence." What evidence? Some
silly-science hacks with Gov. grants?

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