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Old May 22nd 12, 03:58 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.space.policy
Wretch Fossil
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Default No Dirt Could Exist On U.S. Flags On The Moon

Someone suggested that lunar dirt accounted for the anomalies (Ref. 1)
seen on U.S.flags on the Moon. The explanation is impossible, because
all Apollo astronauts carried out their activities on the Moon in
daylight (Ref. 2), when the temperature is about 100 degrees C. (Ref.
3) and the flag would be bone dry. No moisture could have been left on
the flag to adhere anydirt to the flag.

Ref. 1:
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/lin440315/21627377 http://www.wretch.cc/blog/lin440315/21627515

Ref. 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Examina...nce_of_ stars
Quote from Ref. 2:In the Apollo 11 press conference, Neil Armstrong
states that he was "never able to see stars from the lunar surface or
on the daylight side of the moon by eye" [6] Stars were visible with
the naked eye only when they were in the shadow of the Moon. All of
the landings were in daylight.[7]

Ref. 3:
http://www.space.com/14725-moon-temp...ays-night.html
Quote from Ref. 3: Temperatures on the moon are very hot in the
daytime, about 100 degrees Centigrade. A single "day" on the moon
lasts about 28 Earth days, meaning the lunar daytime is nearly two
Earth weeks long.

Read more at http://www.wretch.cc/blog/lin440315&category_id=0

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Old May 22nd 12, 04:49 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.space.policy
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Default No Dirt Could Exist On U.S. Flags On The Moon

Wretch Fossil writes:

Someone suggested that lunar dirt accounted for the anomalies (Ref. 1)
seen on U.S.flags on the Moon. The explanation is impossible, because
all Apollo astronauts carried out their activities on the Moon in
daylight (Ref. 2), when the temperature is about 100 degrees C. (Ref.
3) and the flag would be bone dry. No moisture could have been left on
the flag to adhere any“dirt” to the flag.


Read some things up. Static charge let dust cling to *everything*,
including the flag and the suits. This became a real problem since the
astronauts carried loads of dust into the LEM. The dust also was crazily
abrasive and began to damage things quickly.


Jochem

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Old May 23rd 12, 05:34 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.space.policy
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On May 22, 8:16*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Wretch Fossil wrote:
Someone suggested that lunar dirt accounted for the anomalies (Ref. 1)
seen on U.S.flags on the Moon. The explanation is impossible, because
all Apollo astronauts carried out their activities on the Moon in
daylight (Ref. 2), when the temperature is about 100 degrees C. (Ref.
3) and the flag would be bone dry. No moisture could have been left on
the flag to adhere any dirt to the flag.


Static charge from solar wind. *We're done here.


Where's Brad Guth when we need him?


Mark L. Fergerson
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Old May 23rd 12, 03:57 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.space.policy
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Default No Dirt Could Exist On U.S. Flags On The Moon

On 5月22日, 下午11時16分, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:
Someone suggested that lunar dirt accounted for the anomalies (Ref. 1)
seen on U.S.flags on the Moon. The explanation is impossible, because
all Apollo astronauts carried out their activities on the Moon in
daylight (Ref. 2), when the temperature is about 100 degrees C. (Ref.
3) and the flag would be bone dry. No moisture could have been left on
the flag to adhere any dirt to the flag.


Static charge from solar wind. *We're done here.

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn


Impossible. Also, this American flag decal shows no "dirt" from
"static charge from solar wind":
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...34-20469HR.jpg
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Old May 24th 12, 03:46 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.space.policy
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Default No Dirt Could Exist On U.S. Flags On The Moon

On Thu, 24 May 2012 07:38:43 -0700, Fred J. McCall
wrote:

" wrote:

On May 22, 8:16*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Wretch Fossil wrote:
Someone suggested that lunar dirt accounted for the anomalies (Ref. 1)
seen on U.S.flags on the Moon. The explanation is impossible, because
all Apollo astronauts carried out their activities on the Moon in
daylight (Ref. 2), when the temperature is about 100 degrees C. (Ref.
3) and the flag would be bone dry. No moisture could have been left on
the flag to adhere any dirt to the flag.

Static charge from solar wind. *We're done here.


Where's Brad Guth when we need him?


More to the point, under what hypothetical situation could we possible
NEED The Guthball?


"They won't let us use monkeys in the experiments any more."


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Old May 24th 12, 03:48 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.space.policy
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Default No Dirt Could Exist On U.S. Flags On The Moon

On 5月22日, 下午11時16分, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:
Someone suggested that lunar dirt accounted for the anomalies (Ref. 1)
seen on U.S.flags on the Moon. The explanation is impossible, because
all Apollo astronauts carried out their activities on the Moon in
daylight (Ref. 2), when the temperature is about 100 degrees C. (Ref.
3) and the flag would be bone dry. No moisture could have been left on
the flag to adhere any dirt to the flag.


Static charge from solar wind. *We're done here.

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn


Static charge from solar wind resulted in "a layer of suspended dust
about
one meter above the lunar surface." (Ref. 1). However, the anomalies
on the American flags were about two meters high (Ref. 2). Anyway, the
American flag decal (about one meter from the ground, Ref. 3) on Lunar
Module showed no signs of soil/dirt/dust/particles in this image:
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...34-20469HR.jpg

Ref. 1: fifth line in abstract of this NASA article:
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...010034552..pdf

Ref. 2:
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?...044315525&p=78

Ref. 3:
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...13-18340HR.jpg
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Old May 25th 12, 04:23 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:58:22 AM UTC-4, Wretch Fossil wrote:
Someone suggested that lunar dirt accounted for the anomalies (Ref. 1)
seen on U.S.flags on the Moon. The explanation is impossible, because
all Apollo astronauts carried out their activities on the Moon in
daylight (Ref. 2), when the temperature is about 100 degrees C. (Ref.
3) and the flag would be bone dry. No moisture could have been left on
the flag to adhere anydirt to the flag.

Ref. 1:
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/lin440315/21627377 http://www.wretch.cc/blog/lin440315/21627515

Ref. 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Examina...nce_of_ stars
Quote from Ref. 2:In the Apollo 11 press conference, Neil Armstrong
states that he was "never able to see stars from the lunar surface or
on the daylight side of the moon by eye" [6] Stars were visible with
the naked eye only when they were in the shadow of the Moon. All of
the landings were in daylight.[7]

Ref. 3:
http://www.space.com/14725-moon-temp...ays-night.html
Quote from Ref. 3: Temperatures on the moon are very hot in the
daytime, about 100 degrees Centigrade. A single "day" on the moon
lasts about 28 Earth days, meaning the lunar daytime is nearly two
Earth weeks long.

Read more at http://www.wretch.cc/blog/lin440315&category_id=0


I did my thesis on particle charging and lunar dust in direct sunlight in vaccuum is ideal for charging and being attracted to a wonderful dielectric surface like a synthetic flag. If there was NOT dust on the flag, I'd be suspicious. This environment is so well suited for particle charging that such charging is proposed to be used for transport of large volumes of dust for industrial purposes. You'd expect the dust to best cling to dielectric surfaces like space suits and flags. It would cling less to conductors which would bleed away the charge.
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Old May 27th 12, 04:33 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.space.policy
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On 5月22日, 下午11時16分, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:
Someone suggested that lunar dirt accounted for the anomalies (Ref. 1)
seen on U.S.flags on the Moon. The explanation is impossible, because
all Apollo astronauts carried out their activities on the Moon in
daylight (Ref. 2), when the temperature is about 100 degrees C. (Ref.
3) and the flag would be bone dry. No moisture could have been left on
the flag to adhere any dirt to the flag.


Static charge from solar wind. *We're done here.

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn


Added on May 27:
No dirt could have these shapes of magnified neuron remains.

Shapes of magnified neuron remains on American flags on the Moon:
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?...044309463&p=76
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?...044282671&p=67
 




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