Small Step / Giant Leap

40 years ago today, we had the distinctive event in human history of
Neil & Buzz landing on the Moon, then venturing out to take those
first steps...
http://www.panoramas.dk/moon/apollo-11.html


~ CT

From "Freedom Man" :
40 years ago today, we had the distinctive event in human history of
Neil & Buzz landing on the Moon, then venturing out to take those
first steps...
http://www.panoramas.dk/moon/apollo-11.html

That "small step - giant leap" statement was obviously prepared in advance.
I recognized that when I heard it by the way in which it was spoken. And
that's not all -

I do not doubt that spacecraft, possibly manned, have landed on the moon. I
DO however doubt that the propaganda and fabrications fed us via the
government-controlled media when it allegedly happened, and ever since, are
accurate or free of deliberate deception.

They rebroadcasted that old Conspiracy Theory TV show this past
weekend, so I got to watch it for the first time. I was impressed
with some things it said early on, but other stuff, not so much. If
they were to do an update to that show, they'd need to address those
images released last week of photos showing the descent stages sitting
on the Moon, along with footprints and such.


Less than two hours (+40) to touchdown!
http://www.wechoosethemoon.com/#


~ CT

On Jul 20, 1:30 pm, Stuf4 wrote:
From "Freedom Man" :

40 years ago today, we had the distinctive event in human history of
Neil & Buzz landing on the Moon, then venturing out to take those
first steps...
http://www.panoramas.dk/moon/apollo-11.html
That "small step - giant leap" statement was obviously prepared in advance.
I recognized that when I heard it by the way in which it was spoken. And
that's not all -

I do not doubt that spacecraft, possibly manned, have landed on the moon. I
DO however doubt that the propaganda and fabrications fed us via the
government-controlled media when it allegedly happened, and ever since, are
accurate or free of deliberate deception.

They rebroadcasted that old Conspiracy Theory TV show this past
weekend, so I got to watch it for the first time. I was impressed
with some things it said early on, but other stuff, not so much.

Here is the one minute from that show that I saw to be an absolute
gem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttsx6XJMx_o
@6minutes to 7min
=====
Howard McCurdy: "It was a time of, more or less, national hysteria."
Narrator: "...the Soviets terrified America when they sent Sputnik,
the world's first satellite into orbit."
H.McCurdy: "The New York Times had to publish an article explaining
to Americans that it did not carry nuclear bombs that could be dropped
on the city from that altitude."
Narrator: "The American public's fear of nuclear annihilation
intensified as Russia took the lead in the space race."
Julian Scheer: "The House Speaker announced in Congress that we may
be headed for extinction."
Narrator: "Many feared that the Soviet Union's ultimate goal was to
put a missile base on the Moon."
=====


~ CT

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:17:14 -0400, "Freedom Man"
wrote:

Today on the popular TV show "The View," a film clip was shown with two
astronauts in space suits standing beside an American flag, supposedly on
the moon's surface. The flag was fluttering in the wind.

Here is a longer clip: watch the flag "fluttering in the wind".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh8E4...EC5575&index=6
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From Jud McCranie:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:17:14 -0400, "Freedom Man"
wrote:

Today on the popular TV show "The View," a film clip was shown with two
astronauts in space suits standing beside an American flag, supposedly on
the moon's surface. The flag was fluttering in the wind.

Here is a longer clip: watch the flag "fluttering in the wind".http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh8E4...esPlayList&p=7...

Questions like these are *excellent* opportunities for NASA to teach
science and the scientific method. Those educator astronauts can take
skeptics step by step through such observations, formulating their
hypothesis and then testing it with experiments.

It would be so easy for NASA to bring a flag into one of their large
vacuum chambers and show how things can behave in the absence of air
molecules.

I see skepticism to be healthy. I would prefer to see encouragement
of the types of questions being asked. The problem of arriving at
erroneous conclusions can be fixed through education.


~ CT

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:48:38 -0700 (PDT), Stuf4
wrote:

Questions like these are *excellent* opportunities for NASA to teach
science and the scientific method. Those educator astronauts can take

James Oberg blames NASA and educators failing to educate as the reason
for people believing the landings were fake. (I disagree with that
though.)
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:48:38 -0700 (PDT), Stuf4
wrote:

It would be so easy for NASA to bring a flag into one of their large
vacuum chambers and show how things can behave in the absence of air
molecules.

The Mythbusters did that, but some people don't accept it because it
is a "NASA vacuum chamber".
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From Jud McCranie:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:48:38 -0700 (PDT), Stuf4

wrote:
Questions like these are *excellent* opportunities for NASA to teach
science and the scientific method. Those educator astronauts can take

James Oberg blames NASA and educators failing to educate as the reason
for people believing the landings were fake. (I disagree with that
though.)

A strong factor I see (as I've expressed here in years past) is that
this happened 40 years ago and many people can't grasp the fact that
we have not gone beyond LEO since 1972.

Understanding why we haven't been back requires a solid understanding
of why we went in the first place. And there, there are even seasoned
space historians who fail to grasp the complete picture. This lack of
knowledge creates its own kind of vacuum that got filled by many with
fiction.


~ CT

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:54:19 -0700 (PDT), Stuf4
wrote:

A strong factor I see (as I've expressed here in years past) is that
this happened 40 years ago and many people can't grasp the fact that
we have not gone beyond LEO since 1972.

That's right. I've been watching coverage as it was in 1969, and
there were no people doubting it then (well there must have been a few
on the fringe, but these weren't on TV).
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"Jud McCranie" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:48:38 -0700 (PDT), Stuf4
wrote:

It would be so easy for NASA to bring a flag into one of their large
vacuum chambers and show how things can behave in the absence of air
molecules.

The Mythbusters did that, but some people don't accept it because it
is a "NASA vacuum chamber".

Some people don't accept that the earth is (roughly) a sphere or that said
sphere isn't hollow. Bunch of idiots who don't understand how to apply the
scientific method.

Jeff
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