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LARSON -ian Binary-Star Formation
"Double-A" wrote in message ups.com... | | Sorcerer wrote: | "Double-A" wrote in message | ups.com... | | | | Sorcerer wrote: | | "Double-A" wrote in message | | oups.com... | | | | | | Sorcerer wrote: | | | "Double-A" wrote in message | | | oups.com... | | | What did Dewey think about de Sitter's observations? | | | | | | Double-A | | | | | | You still don't have a grip on deSitter, do you? | | | | | | | | | Look carefully at this orbit. | | | http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wheel.gif | | | | | | Periastron is at one of | | | A) 12:00 o'clock | | | B) 7:00 o'clock | | | C) 4:00 o'clock | | | D) Other? | | | | | | Explain your answer. | | | | | | C. That's where it "looks" closest to the center, if that's what you | | | mean. | | | | Not quite what I mean. By the shadow of the wheel it looks like | | 12 o'clock is closest to the centre, doesn't it? | | | | | | Maybe the shadow is closest to center. | | | | | | What else do you know about perisatron? | | | | | | | | It's the location in double star's orbits where they are closest | | together. | | | | But what does this have to do with de Sitter mirages? | | | | Double-A | | Maybe you are not a thinker, maybe you want to be spoon-fed. | Maybe anyone can spoon-feed you bull**** and you'll swallow it. | | | Is that what you're trying to feed me now? I resent that implication. You are the one feeding me with "maybe". | | | Maybe you simply don't know enough to work it out. | Is science about "maybe", "could be", "might be", "I guess"? | | | Periastron is the fastest part of the orbit. | | | Which would be identical to the part were the stars are the closest, | just like I said. | | | Periastron is at one of | A) 12:00 o'clock | B) 7:00 o'clock | C) 4:00 o'clock | D) Other? | | | In your animation, the star also moves the fastest at 4:00 o'clock. It | seems to take sort of a quantum leap everytime it gets there. Yes. Unfortunately we've had still frames in movies since movies began. If that is your critique this is little I can do about it, write to Hollywood and complain to them about the quantum leap. Is that the bull**** you're trying to whine to me now, or shall we get over your resentment and discuss physics? So why is the wheel an ellipse, and why isn't the shadow an identical ellipse? What is the shape of a wheel anyway? Do you often see elliptical wheels? | What does this have to do with deSitter? | We'll get to that, there are no easy answers. You are not going to | learn unless you think. | |
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LARSON -ian Binary-Star Formation
Sorcerer wrote: "Double-A" wrote in message ups.com... | | Sorcerer wrote: | "Double-A" wrote in message | ups.com... | | | | Sorcerer wrote: | | "Double-A" wrote in message | | oups.com... | | | | | | Sorcerer wrote: | | | "Double-A" wrote in message | | | oups.com... | | | What did Dewey think about de Sitter's observations? | | | | | | Double-A | | | | | | You still don't have a grip on deSitter, do you? | | | | | | | | | Look carefully at this orbit. | | | http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wheel.gif | | | | | | Periastron is at one of | | | A) 12:00 o'clock | | | B) 7:00 o'clock | | | C) 4:00 o'clock | | | D) Other? | | | | | | Explain your answer. | | | | | | C. That's where it "looks" closest to the center, if that's what you | | | mean. | | | | Not quite what I mean. By the shadow of the wheel it looks like | | 12 o'clock is closest to the centre, doesn't it? | | | | | | Maybe the shadow is closest to center. | | | | | | What else do you know about perisatron? | | | | | | | | It's the location in double star's orbits where they are closest | | together. | | | | But what does this have to do with de Sitter mirages? | | | | Double-A | | Maybe you are not a thinker, maybe you want to be spoon-fed. | Maybe anyone can spoon-feed you bull**** and you'll swallow it. | | | Is that what you're trying to feed me now? I resent that implication. You are the one feeding me with "maybe". | | | Maybe you simply don't know enough to work it out. | Is science about "maybe", "could be", "might be", "I guess"? | | | Periastron is the fastest part of the orbit. | | | Which would be identical to the part were the stars are the closest, | just like I said. | | | Periastron is at one of | A) 12:00 o'clock | B) 7:00 o'clock | C) 4:00 o'clock | D) Other? | | | In your animation, the star also moves the fastest at 4:00 o'clock. It | seems to take sort of a quantum leap everytime it gets there. Yes. Unfortunately we've had still frames in movies since movies began. If that is your critique this is little I can do about it, write to Hollywood and complain to them about the quantum leap. Is that the bull**** you're trying to whine to me now, or shall we get over your resentment and discuss physics? So why is the wheel an ellipse, and why isn't the shadow an identical ellipse? What is the shape of a wheel anyway? Do you often see elliptical wheels? My interpretation is that I am not seeing the wheel side-on, but rotated about 45 degrees, so of course it would look like an ellipse from that angle. The shadow I would be seeing from a different angle. Of course if it were a star in orbit, it would be an ellipse because that's how things orbit. I don't understand what point you are trying to make. Double-A | What does this have to do with deSitter? | We'll get to that, there are no easy answers. You are not going to | learn unless you think. | |
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LARSON -ian Binary-Star Formation
"Double-A" wrote in message ups.com... | | Sorcerer wrote: | "Double-A" wrote in message | ups.com... | | | | Sorcerer wrote: | | "Double-A" wrote in message | | ups.com... | | | | | | Sorcerer wrote: | | | "Double-A" wrote in message | | | oups.com... | | | | | | | | Sorcerer wrote: | | | | "Double-A" wrote in message | | | | oups.com... | | | | What did Dewey think about de Sitter's observations? | | | | | | | | Double-A | | | | | | | | You still don't have a grip on deSitter, do you? | | | | | | | | | | | | Look carefully at this orbit. | | | | http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wheel.gif | | | | | | | | Periastron is at one of | | | | A) 12:00 o'clock | | | | B) 7:00 o'clock | | | | C) 4:00 o'clock | | | | D) Other? | | | | | | | | Explain your answer. | | | | | | | | C. That's where it "looks" closest to the center, if that's what | you | | | | mean. | | | | | | Not quite what I mean. By the shadow of the wheel it looks like | | | 12 o'clock is closest to the centre, doesn't it? | | | | | | | | | Maybe the shadow is closest to center. | | | | | | | | | What else do you know about perisatron? | | | | | | | | | | | | It's the location in double star's orbits where they are closest | | | together. | | | | | | But what does this have to do with de Sitter mirages? | | | | | | Double-A | | | | Maybe you are not a thinker, maybe you want to be spoon-fed. | | Maybe anyone can spoon-feed you bull**** and you'll swallow it. | | | | | | Is that what you're trying to feed me now? | | I resent that implication. You are the one feeding me with "maybe". | | | | | | | Maybe you simply don't know enough to work it out. | | Is science about "maybe", "could be", "might be", "I guess"? | | | | | | Periastron is the fastest part of the orbit. | | | | | | Which would be identical to the part were the stars are the closest, | | just like I said. | | | | | | Periastron is at one of | | A) 12:00 o'clock | | B) 7:00 o'clock | | C) 4:00 o'clock | | D) Other? | | | | | | In your animation, the star also moves the fastest at 4:00 o'clock. It | | seems to take sort of a quantum leap everytime it gets there. | | Yes. Unfortunately we've had still frames in movies since movies began. | If that is your critique this is little I can do about it, write to | Hollywood | and complain to them about the quantum leap. | Is that the bull**** you're trying to whine to me now, or shall we get over | your resentment and discuss physics? | | So why is the wheel an ellipse, and why isn't the shadow an identical | ellipse? What is the shape of a wheel anyway? Do you often see elliptical | wheels? | | | My interpretation is that I am not seeing the wheel side-on, but | rotated about 45 degrees, so of course it would look like an ellipse | from that angle. |The shadow I would be seeing from a different angle. Very good. The same is true for deSitter looking at the orbit of a double star. If it were possible to change the angle we see it from, in other words get a different view, we'd make a different estimate of the ellipse. | Of course if it were a star in orbit, it would be an ellipse because | that's how things orbit. Baloney. The Universe is 3-D, every orbit we can see is a 3-D projection onto a 2-D plane. | I don't understand what point you are trying to make. What point are YOU trying to make? The only point I see you making is that you want to run before you can walk and keep nagging as I try to teach you. Feeding you more than one line of imformation at a time, you'll ignore each point in your rush to get quick answers. What point was deSitter trying to make? We see double stars. So how does that prove the speed of light is not source dependent? Let me mumble "I can see an ellipse, therefore it is absurd to call it a circle", because that's what de_Sitter did. C'mon, produce the math deSitter used. Androcles. | Double-A | | | | | | | What does this have to do with deSitter? | | We'll get to that, there are no easy answers. You are not going to | | learn unless you think. | | | |
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LARSON -ian Binary-Star Formation
Horsey Doo Doo.... wrote in message ups.com... 4 LARSONIAN Binary Star Formation About half of all the stars in the galaxy in the vicinity of the sun are binary or double. But orthodox astronomers and astrophysicists still have no satisfactory theory about how they form or why there are so many of them. But binary star systems are actually a LIKELY CONSEQUENCE in the comprehensive GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the Physical Universe developed by the late Physicist Dewey B. Larson. I will try to summarize Larsons explanation, which is detailed in Chapter 7 of his book "THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION" and in some of his other books. First of all, according to Larson, stars do NOT generate energy by "fusion". A small fraction comes from slow gravitational collapse. The rest results from the COMPLETE ANNIHILATION of HEAVY elements (heavier than IRON). Each element has a DESTRUCTIVE TEMPERATURE LIMIT. The heavier the element is, the lower is this limit. A star's internal temperature increases as it grows in mass via accretion, and absorption of the decay products of cosmic rays, gradually reaching the destructive temperature limit of lighter and lighter elements. When the internal temperature of the star reaches the destructive temperature limit of IRON, there is a Type I SUPERNOVA EXPLOSION ! This is because there is SO MUCH iron present; and that is related to the structure of iron atoms and the atom building process, which Larson explains in some of his books [better than I can]. When the star explodes, the lighter material on the outer portion of the star is blown outward in space at less than the speed of light. The heavier material in the center portion of the star was already bouncing around at close to the speed of light, because of the high temperature. The explosion pushes that material OVER the speed of light, and it expands OUTWARD IN TIME, which is equivalent to INWARD IN SPACE, and it often actually DISAPPEARS from visual sight for a while. Over long periods of time, both masses start to fall back gravitationally. The material that had been blown outward in space now starts to form a RED GIANT star. The material that had been blown OUTWARD IN TIME starts to form a WHITE DWARF star. BOTH stars then start moving back toward the "MAIN SEQUENCE" from opposite directions on the Hertzsprung-Russell Diagram. The chances of the two masses falling back into the exact same location in space, making a single lone star again, are near zero. They will instead form a BINARY system, orbiting each other. According to Larson, a white dwarf star has an INVERSE DENSITY GRADIENT (is densest at its SURFACE), because the material at its center is most widely dispersed (blown outward) in time. This ELIMINATES the need to resort to MATHEMATICAL FANTASIES about "degenerate matter", "neutron stars", "black holes", etc.. LARSONIAN Solar System Formation If the mass of the heavy material at the center of the exploding star is relatively SMALL, then, instead of a single white dwarf star, there will be SEVERAL "mini" white dwarf stars (revolving around the red giant star, but probably still too far away in three-dimensional TIME to be affected by its heat, etc.). These will become PLANETS! In Chapter 7 of THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION, Larson used all this information, and other principles of his comprehensive GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the Physical Universe, to derive his own version of Bode's Law. http://library.rstheory.com/books/uom/07.html . A WEALTH of Information about the GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of the Physical Universe developed by the late Physicist Dewey B. Larson can be found at the web site http://www.rstheory.com . See also http://members.aol.com/GalactcFed/universe.txt , http://www.geocities.com/remspiral7/sunpart1.htm , http://www.geocities.com/remspiral7/sunpart2.htm . Robert E. McElwaine B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EC http://members.aol.com/rem547 PLUS http://members.aol.com/rem460 Preserve BOTH on CD-R and PRINT-OUTS P.S.: PASS IT ON ! "EVERYTHING you know is WRONG." "The Truth IS STRANGER than fiction." "The Truth is ALWAYS the FIRST CASUALTY OF WAR." "OFFICIAL LIES are ALWAYS the BIGGEST LIES OF ALL." "The more things change, the more they STAY THE SAME." |
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