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Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming!
Anyone notice the MONSTER thread on Gobal Warming? It's actually too huge to read on Google! What is clear that Global Warming like "gun control" is a political agenda where lies abound and ethical science goes out the window. We find paid minions of the "desired" view infesting the Usenet and using clever wording and lies to further their agenda. The Global warming thing is a great example. They say global warming is real (it is!) Then try to make the case that some politicians (Bush) have tried to deny global warming. (He has in the past) Then comes the huge "leap of faith" where CO2 is accused by reason of a "greenhouse effect" to be the "cause" of global warming. Then comes "proof" in the form of CO2 level charts that match global ocean temperatures. (This "causality" is a lie.) Bottom line we all must accept global warming as due to our SUVs and power plants or these guys will call us nasty names! Brrrrr! I'm shaking in my boots! This is all identical to the "gun control" debate where firearm ownership is tied by the propagandists to higher crime rates. Too bad all scientific studies including the ones mandated by Congress and done by the CDC found NO such connections. So what am I getting at here? These issues are NOT what I'm talking about. I"m not trying to forward a political agenda here, save ONE: To take the POLITICS out of Science! Science, it seems has developed a certain amount of well-deserved credibility in the public perception. So it isn't surprising that those with a political agenda would try to USE that public credibility to further their political agendas. What I'm saying here is that we scientists, need to stand up and speak out. No, not take sides in the debate lies. And certainly not to join all the noise of name-calling and "proofs by assertion" that characterize political "debates". No! We need to squawk loud and often about this SUBVERSION of the integrity of Science by political agendas. When lies are all over the media being held up as "science" someone needs to point it out and when prizes are given for bogus research they need to be taken back and the schools embarrassed! In short all this MISUSE of OUR science for political purpose needs to stop and it's only going to stop if WE start speaking out instead of going along with those pretending there is a "scientific" debate where there actually is none! |
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Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming!
"Benj" wrote in message ups.com... Anyone notice the MONSTER thread on Gobal Warming? It's actually too huge to read on Google! What is clear that Global Warming like "gun control" is a political agenda where lies abound and ethical science goes out the window. We find paid minions of the "desired" view infesting the Usenet and using clever wording and lies to further their agenda. The Global warming thing is a great example. They say global warming is real (it is!) Then try to make the case that some politicians (Bush) have tried to deny global warming. (He has in the past) Then comes the huge "leap of faith" where CO2 is accused by reason of a "greenhouse effect" to be the "cause" of global warming. Then comes "proof" in the form of CO2 level charts that match global ocean temperatures. (This "causality" is a lie.) Um, the rest of the world disagrees. |
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Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming!
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:00:34 -0700, Benj wrote:
Anyone notice the MONSTER thread on Gobal Warming? It's actually too huge to read on Google! What is clear that Global Warming like "gun control" is a political agenda where lies abound and ethical science goes out the window. We find paid minions of the "desired" view infesting the Usenet and using clever wording and lies to further their agenda. The Global warming thing is a great example. They say global warming is real (it is!) Then try to make the case that some politicians (Bush) have tried to deny global warming. (He has in the past) Then comes the huge "leap of faith" where CO2 is accused by reason of a "greenhouse effect" to be the "cause" of global warming. Then comes "proof" in the form of CO2 level charts that match global ocean temperatures. (This "causality" is a lie.) Bottom line we all must accept global warming as due to our SUVs and power plants or these guys will call us nasty names! Brrrrr! I'm shaking in my boots! This is all identical to the "gun control" debate where firearm ownership is tied by the propagandists to higher crime rates. Too bad all scientific studies including the ones mandated by Congress and done by the CDC found NO such connections. So what am I getting at here? These issues are NOT what I'm talking about. I"m not trying to forward a political agenda here, save ONE: To take the POLITICS out of Science! Science, it seems has developed a certain amount of well-deserved credibility in the public perception. So it isn't surprising that those with a political agenda would try to USE that public credibility to further their political agendas. What I'm saying here is that we scientists, need to stand up and speak out. No, not take sides in the debate lies. And certainly not to join all the noise of name-calling and "proofs by assertion" that characterize political "debates". No! We need to squawk loud and often about this SUBVERSION of the integrity of Science by political agendas. When lies are all over the media being held up as "science" someone needs to point it out and when prizes are given for bogus research they need to be taken back and the schools embarrassed! In short all this MISUSE of OUR science for political purpose needs to stop and it's only going to stop if WE start speaking out instead of going along with those pretending there is a "scientific" debate where there actually is none! You are spot on. Get a good newsreader and join the fray. We need more people with science backgrounds. |
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Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming!
In sci.physics Server 13 wrote:
"Benj" wrote in message ups.com... Anyone notice the MONSTER thread on Gobal Warming? It's actually too huge to read on Google! What is clear that Global Warming like "gun control" is a political agenda where lies abound and ethical science goes out the window. We find paid minions of the "desired" view infesting the Usenet and using clever wording and lies to further their agenda. The Global warming thing is a great example. They say global warming is real (it is!) Then try to make the case that some politicians (Bush) have tried to deny global warming. (He has in the past) Then comes the huge "leap of faith" where CO2 is accused by reason of a "greenhouse effect" to be the "cause" of global warming. Then comes "proof" in the form of CO2 level charts that match global ocean temperatures. (This "causality" is a lie.) Um, the rest of the world disagrees. If that were actually true, the above post would have never been made. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming!
wrote in message ... In sci.physics Server 13 wrote: "Benj" wrote in message ups.com... Anyone notice the MONSTER thread on Gobal Warming? It's actually too huge to read on Google! What is clear that Global Warming like "gun control" is a political agenda where lies abound and ethical science goes out the window. We find paid minions of the "desired" view infesting the Usenet and using clever wording and lies to further their agenda. The Global warming thing is a great example. They say global warming is real (it is!) Then try to make the case that some politicians (Bush) have tried to deny global warming. (He has in the past) Then comes the huge "leap of faith" where CO2 is accused by reason of a "greenhouse effect" to be the "cause" of global warming. Then comes "proof" in the form of CO2 level charts that match global ocean temperatures. (This "causality" is a lie.) Um, the rest of the world disagrees. If that were actually true, the above post would have never been made. OK, the rest of the world -5% Denialists. |
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Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming!
On Jul 30, 12:37 pm, "Server 13" wrote:
wrote in message ... In sci.physics Server 13 wrote: "Benj" wrote in message roups.com... Anyone notice the MONSTER thread on Gobal Warming? It's actually too huge to read on Google! What is clear that Global Warming like "gun control" is a political agenda where lies abound and ethical science goes out the window. We find paid minions of the "desired" view infesting the Usenet and using clever wording and lies to further their agenda. The Global warming thing is a great example. They say global warming is real (it is!) Then try to make the case that some politicians (Bush) have tried to deny global warming. (He has in the past) Then comes the huge "leap of faith" where CO2 is accused by reason of a "greenhouse effect" to be the "cause" of global warming. Then comes "proof" in the form of CO2 level charts that match global ocean temperatures. (This "causality" is a lie.) Um, the rest of the world disagrees. If that were actually true, the above post would have never been made. OK, the rest of the world -5% Denialists.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Science isn't a democracy. |
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Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming!
On Jul 30, 12:00 pm, Benj wrote:
Then comes the huge "leap of faith" where CO2 is accused by reason of a "greenhouse effect" to be the "cause" of global warming. Then comes "proof" in the form of CO2 level charts that match global ocean temperatures. (This "causality" is a lie.) snip when prizes are given for bogus research they need to be taken back and the schools embarrassed! In short all this MISUSE of OUR science for political purpose needs to stop and it's only going to stop if WE start speaking out instead of going along with those pretending there is a "scientific" debate where there actually is none! Well stated. I agree with the other poster. We need scientists like yourself to get into the fray. I've also noticed that it is both unproductive and unnecessary to try to dispute or refute any of the assertions made by these AGW whackos. Their thinking is too vague. Attempts to dispute it only confuse the audience and leave them with the impression that, maybe, there is something to this hoax. It's best to help them, encourage them, and berate these whackos into explicating their thoughts on AGW. Once this is done it becomes perfectly clear that these whackos are whacked. In fact it becomes so clear that they themselves realize how whacko they sound and immediately try to save face and discontinue the conversation. |
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Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming!
wrote in message ups.com... On Jul 30, 12:37 pm, "Server 13" wrote: wrote in message ... In sci.physics Server 13 wrote: "Benj" wrote in message roups.com... Anyone notice the MONSTER thread on Gobal Warming? It's actually too huge to read on Google! What is clear that Global Warming like "gun control" is a political agenda where lies abound and ethical science goes out the window. We find paid minions of the "desired" view infesting the Usenet and using clever wording and lies to further their agenda. The Global warming thing is a great example. They say global warming is real (it is!) Then try to make the case that some politicians (Bush) have tried to deny global warming. (He has in the past) Then comes the huge "leap of faith" where CO2 is accused by reason of a "greenhouse effect" to be the "cause" of global warming. Then comes "proof" in the form of CO2 level charts that match global ocean temperatures. (This "causality" is a lie.) Um, the rest of the world disagrees. If that were actually true, the above post would have never been made. OK, the rest of the world -5% Denialists.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Science isn't a democracy. lol Quoting the same ten or so denialists over and over isn't science. |
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Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming!
wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 30, 12:00 pm, Benj wrote: Then comes the huge "leap of faith" where CO2 is accused by reason of a "greenhouse effect" to be the "cause" of global warming. Then comes "proof" in the form of CO2 level charts that match global ocean temperatures. (This "causality" is a lie.) snip when prizes are given for bogus research they need to be taken back and the schools embarrassed! In short all this MISUSE of OUR science for political purpose needs to stop and it's only going to stop if WE start speaking out instead of going along with those pretending there is a "scientific" debate where there actually is none! Well stated. I agree with the other poster. We need scientists like yourself to get into the fray. I've also noticed that it is both unproductive and unnecessary to try to dispute or refute any of the assertions made by these AGW whackos. Their thinking is too vague. Attempts to dispute it only confuse the audience and leave them with the impression that, maybe, there is something to this hoax. Actually, serious efforts to dispute AGW science are rarely made here. Generally it's quotes from the same few bought and paid for liars, or amateur science word salads. |
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Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming!
"Bill Ward" wrote in message news On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:00:34 -0700, Benj wrote: Anyone notice the MONSTER thread on Gobal Warming? It's actually too huge to read on Google! What is clear that Global Warming like "gun control" is a political agenda where lies abound and ethical science goes out the window. We find paid minions of the "desired" view infesting the Usenet and using clever wording and lies to further their agenda. The Global warming thing is a great example. They say global warming is real (it is!) Then try to make the case that some politicians (Bush) have tried to deny global warming. (He has in the past) Then comes the huge "leap of faith" where CO2 is accused by reason of a "greenhouse effect" to be the "cause" of global warming. Then comes "proof" in the form of CO2 level charts that match global ocean temperatures. (This "causality" is a lie.) Bottom line we all must accept global warming as due to our SUVs and power plants or these guys will call us nasty names! Brrrrr! I'm shaking in my boots! This is all identical to the "gun control" debate where firearm ownership is tied by the propagandists to higher crime rates. Too bad all scientific studies including the ones mandated by Congress and done by the CDC found NO such connections. So what am I getting at here? These issues are NOT what I'm talking about. I"m not trying to forward a political agenda here, save ONE: To take the POLITICS out of Science! Science, it seems has developed a certain amount of well-deserved credibility in the public perception. So it isn't surprising that those with a political agenda would try to USE that public credibility to further their political agendas. What I'm saying here is that we scientists, need to stand up and speak out. No, not take sides in the debate lies. And certainly not to join all the noise of name-calling and "proofs by assertion" that characterize political "debates". No! We need to squawk loud and often about this SUBVERSION of the integrity of Science by political agendas. When lies are all over the media being held up as "science" someone needs to point it out and when prizes are given for bogus research they need to be taken back and the schools embarrassed! In short all this MISUSE of OUR science for political purpose needs to stop and it's only going to stop if WE start speaking out instead of going along with those pretending there is a "scientific" debate where there actually is none! You are spot on. Get a good newsreader and join the fray. We need more people with science backgrounds. What's his science background? |
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