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On Jul 12, 12:10 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On May 28, 12:07 am, BradGuth wrote: On May 3, 7:56 pm, "Brad Guth" wrote: "Brad Guth" wrote in message news:943268f4698ce93ff8aabb231b766a9b.49644@mygat e.mailgate.org VenusL2(VL2) is supposedly 1,014,300 km 1,014,200 km = 86% shaded by Venus, receiving 14% worth of the solar photosphere plus a little extra illumination. As per usual, the incest mutated naysay mindset of Usenet is stuck deeply into the nearest space toilet. There's lots of absolutely nifty things (all good) about POOF City atVenusL2. Unfortunately, not even Usenet cam.misc is up to the task. It's as though the topic/author taboo is still in full swing, of covering thy silly Usenet butts. Even the MI/NSA spooks and moles have backed off from this one. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server -http://www.Mailgate.ORG That's extremely odd, being that Venus L2(VL2) is so POOF City doable, if not potentially a wee bit too cool, yet there's not an honest contructive word within all of Usenet to behold. It's as though the truth about much of anything is taboo rated. There's sufficient evidence of other intelligent life existing/ coexisting on Venus, and at times it's as close by as 100 fold the distance of our moon. You'd think that argument alone would be worth a few other words by those claiming as knowing all there is to know. Of accomplishing VL2 is just plain doable, as being well within existing technology, though apparently I'm on the official NO FLY list. - Brad Guth - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Solar and Cosmic radiation at Venus L2 (VL2)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...m/thread/a35ba... Geoffrey A. Landis had a few kind words to share, although never any specific numbers of what to expect at Venus L2 or even outside of Earth's protective magnetosphere, such as residing at our moon's L1, Earth's L1 or even that of Earth's L2. It's as though such science pertaining to human space travel simply doesn't exist, other than in various encrypted formats of any number of hocus-pocus conditional physics, few of which seem to agree with one another. SOHO Dosage 31 nifty pages of soft data on space radiation; meaning little if any hard rad/rem data that pertains to human DNA that's having to reside external to our magnetosphere.http://spacecraft.ssl.umd.edu/academ....space_env.pdf Earth L2 Dosagehttp://planetquest.jpl.nasa.gov/documents/JWST-RPT-radiation.pdf Similar to the above "JWST-RPT-radiation" report, an official Raytheon/ TRW Space Data Report offered us a GSO satellite internal system dosage pegged as 2e3 Sv/year while fully shielded by 5/16" aluminum (2 g/cm2), thus residing outside of our protective magnetosphere's Van Allen belts as fully in the buff is likely capable of being similar to that realm of dosage analogy, of there being at times 2e5 rem/year or 548 rem/day of local Xrays, Gamma and direct cosmic exposure that you'll need sufficient spacecraft or habitat shielding in order to long-term survive without incorporating a backup plan B of banked bone marrow, especially on behalf of attinuating and/or somehow diverting the moon's anticathode worth of hard Xrays and Gamma that's rather unavoidable if your butt of frail DNA is situated within the moon's L1 for any extended period of time. Fortunately for POOF City that's residing at the cool halo orbital location or station-keeping realm of Venus L2(VL2) isn't nearly as cosmic hot and nasty, whereas Venus and of its robust atmosphere itself blocking and/or diverting the vast bulk of whatever nasty halo CMEs our sun has to offer, as well as there being no such nearby moon of secondary/recoil Xrays and Gamma to fret about. Therefore, VL2 is not only a cool satellite environment in a solar IR forced thermal sense of the word, but it's also offering a relatively cool amount of humanly lethal radiation to deal with, as possibly similar to or perhaps not much greater than what ISS/ESS has to contend with. The primary habitat POOFs with their added shielding of ice cold beer or whatever else you'd like to consume should manage to protect our frail DNA rather nicely, as safely station-keeping us within the VL2 halo orbit, that which could also host a new and greatly improved set of ACE/SOHO/TRACE science instruments in addition to whatever's intended for scoping out and/or probing Venus. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's time to pick up the slack, as for others to be contributing and otherwise sharing in the applied physics and best available science on behalf of our establishing POOF City at Venus L2(VL2). VL2 is actually a physically cool place for our next best space depot/ gateway, and best of all it has nothing whatsoever to do with our taboo/nondisclosure moon that's in charge of all our NASA/Apollo hocus- pocus physics. The interactive halo orbit of VL2 is also an ideal platform on behalf of accommodating SOHO/ACE/TRACE plus any other Earth science that's related to our sun (at least directly communicating for a good 16 months at a whack, with the other three months worth of data taken from behind the sun and/or when hidden by Venus, as stored on multiple terabyte hard drives or Blue-Ray DVDs). We're talking a minimum configuration of five maximum POOFS plus whatever's their shuttle craft or survival pods for getting such brave folks back to Earth. - Brad Guth |
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How cool is VL2
On May 28, 12:07 am, BradGuth wrote:
On May 3, 7:56 pm, "Brad Guth" wrote: "Brad Guth" wrote in message news:943268f4698ce93ff8aabb231b766a9b.49644@mygat e.mailgate.org VenusL2(VL2) is supposedly 1,014,300 km 1,014,200 km = 86% shaded by Venus, receiving 14% worth of the solar photosphere plus a little extra illumination. As per usual, the incest mutated naysay mindset of Usenet is stuck deeply into the nearest space toilet. There's lots of absolutely nifty things (all good) about POOF City atVenusL2. Unfortunately, not even Usenet cam.misc is up to the task. It's as though the topic/author taboo is still in full swing, of covering thy silly Usenet butts. Even the MI/NSA spooks and moles have backed off from this one. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server -http://www.Mailgate.ORG That's extremely odd, being that Venus L2(VL2) is so POOF City doable, if not potentially a wee bit too cool, yet there's not an honest contructive word within all of Usenet to behold. It's as though the truth about much of anything is taboo rated. There's sufficient evidence of other intelligent life existing/ coexisting on Venus, and at times it's as close by as 100 fold the distance of our moon. You'd think that argument alone would be worth a few other words by those claiming as knowing all there is to know. Of accomplishing VL2 is just plain doable, as being well within existing technology, though apparently I'm on the official NO FLY list. - Brad Guth - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell Why has this topic been to hard to grasp? What's so insurmountable about utilizing VL2? Wouldn't a mostly robotic platform of science instruments at Venus L2 be rather impressive, and otherwise downright nifty? Wouldn't having a space depot/gateway as a human habitat of POOFs at VL2 be a whole lot better off than anything ISS/ESS related? - Brad Guth |
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On Jul 20, 11:26 am, BradGuth wrote:
On May 28, 12:07 am, BradGuth wrote: On May 3, 7:56 pm, "Brad Guth" wrote: "Brad Guth" wrote in message news:943268f4698ce93ff8aabb231b766a9b.49644@mygat e.mailgate.org VenusL2(VL2) is supposedly 1,014,300 km 1,014,200 km = 86% shaded by Venus, receiving 14% worth of the solar photosphere plus a little extra illumination. As per usual, the incest mutated naysay mindset of Usenet is stuck deeply into the nearest space toilet. There's lots of absolutely nifty things (all good) about POOF City atVenusL2. Unfortunately, not even Usenet cam.misc is up to the task. It's as though the topic/author taboo is still in full swing, of covering thy silly Usenet butts. Even the MI/NSA spooks and moles have backed off from this one. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server -http://www.Mailgate.ORG That's extremely odd, being that Venus L2(VL2) is so POOF City doable, if not potentially a wee bit too cool, yet there's not an honest contructive word within all of Usenet to behold. It's as though the truth about much of anything is taboo rated. There's sufficient evidence of other intelligent life existing/ coexisting on Venus, and at times it's as close by as 100 fold the distance of our moon. You'd think that argument alone would be worth a few other words by those claiming as knowing all there is to know. Of accomplishing VL2 is just plain doable, as being well within existing technology, though apparently I'm on the official NO FLY list. - Brad Guth - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell Why has this simple topic been to hard to grasp? What's so insurmountable about our utilizing VL2? Wouldn't a mostly robotic platform of science instruments at Venus L2 be rather impressive, and otherwise downright nifty? Wouldn't having a space depot/gateway as a human habitat of POOFs at VL2 be a whole lot better off than anything ISS/ESS related? Apparently VL2 being cool and nearby doesn't account for all that much. The matter of fact that the regular laws of physics do apply rather nicely to Venus is also why such is on the Yiddish usenet NO FLY list. Actually, anything I happen to mention is taken into automatic banishment mode to start off with. Must be because I'm more often right than I'm being given credit for. - Brad Guth |
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How cool is VL2
Compared to orbiting our moon, or especially of being situated at the
moon's L1, Venus L2(VL2) is way cool, it's even cooler than any ISS orbital average, and cooler yet if an artificial shade gets utilized, or made warmer if a remote mirror directs sunlight upon whatever's halo parked within VL2, or the station-keeping halo orbit itself can be made as large or as tight as need be. A better understanding of shade may eventually become self explanatory, such as for relocating our moon to Earth's L1 is not an option that we can afford to pass up. We need that little spot of shade, as well as we badly need a whole lot less tidal forced internal trauma that's keeping our 98.5% fluid Earth a touch warmer and more internally active than need be. Unfortunately, of these hocus-pocus WMD days, you simply can't hardly tell one Yiddish infomercial spewing rusemaster from most any other faith-based damn fool (especially of them pesky born again types). So, whom can we trust? Physics and of the best available science that's replicated seems as though it ott to at least function on behalf of understanding our physically dark and anticathode moon, that's saturated with gamma and Xrays in addition to being hot as hell by day, that which is hot enough to keep vaporising its sodium which starts melting at 371 K, and vaporises at 1156 K while under the pressure of 1 bar (perhaps as little as 374 K at 3e-15 bar). That moon is simply not made of Earth. Earth hasn't even the least bit similar impacts nor deposits of what's causing such terrific surface mascons to exist on that somewhat salty moon of ours. Why doesn't Earth have its fair share of bigger and better surface impact mascons? In other words, why and/or how did our salty old moon get so impact mascon populated, and Earth somewhow having missed out on most all of that heavy mineral action? - Brad Guth |
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On Jul 20, 11:26 am, BradGuth wrote:
On May 28, 12:07 am, BradGuth wrote: On May 3, 7:56 pm, "Brad Guth" wrote: "Brad Guth" wrote in message news:943268f4698ce93ff8aabb231b766a9b.49644@mygat e.mailgate.org VenusL2(VL2) is supposedly 1,014,300 km 1,014,200 km = 86% shaded by Venus, receiving 14% worth of the solar photosphere plus a little extra illumination. As per usual, the incest mutated naysay mindset of Usenet is stuck deeply into the nearest space toilet. There's lots of absolutely nifty things (all good) about POOF City atVenusL2. Unfortunately, not even Usenet cam.misc is up to the task. It's as though the topic/author taboo is still in full swing, of covering thy silly Usenet butts. Even the MI/NSA spooks and moles have backed off from this one. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server -http://www.Mailgate.ORG That's extremely odd, being that Venus L2(VL2) is so POOF City doable, if not potentially a wee bit too cool, yet there's not an honest contructive word within all of Usenet to behold. It's as though the truth about much of anything is taboo rated. There's sufficient evidence of other intelligent life existing/ coexisting on Venus, and at times it's as close by as 100 fold the distance of our moon. You'd think that argument alone would be worth a few other words by those claiming as knowing all there is to know. Of accomplishing VL2 is just plain doable, as being well within existing technology, though apparently I'm on the official NO FLY list. - Brad Guth - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell Why has this topic been to hard to grasp? What's so insurmountable about utilizing VL2? Wouldn't a mostly robotic platform of science instruments at Venus L2 be rather impressive, and otherwise downright nifty? Wouldn't having a space depot/gateway as a human habitat of POOFs at VL2 be a whole lot better off than anything ISS/ESS related? - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Venus L2 is not the least bit hot, or even all that nasty to our frail DNA. Not that within our salty old moon doesn't offer great potential that's nearby and therefore accessible, and I certainly don't otherwise mean to be anti-topic because, I happen to know there's all sorts of good that moon and of its L1 can be utilized for, but what the hell is wrong with you silly naysay folks that are deductively blind and otherwise swarm like mindset bigoted into naysayism past the point of no return? There's nothing worth our living science that's on the surface norgue of our physically dark moon that's growing or that could have survived the cosmic and solar gauntlet of gamma and hard-Xrays, other than the nifty likes of sodium crystals shortly before they vaporise by day. The planet Mars is an interesting but very frozen to death and otherwise a geologically dead worth of planetology, that which no matters what is simply too far away and otherwise too moon like naked for our own frail DNA good. Venus on the other Ovglove hand is almost exactly like proto-Earth, and at least at times merely 100 fold the distance of our moon, plus it's offering us darn good signs of having been lived upon by something that's a whole lot more intelligent than a hot rock. If Venus itself is offering too much of a toasty reality for your swarm's naysay mindset, then perhaps POOF City at Venus L2(VL2) will provide the space depot/gateway that's doable. At least this cool VL2 is humanly manageable as is, unlike our physically hot plus rad hot Earth-moon-L1 that's still being kept as taboo/nondisclosure, and otherwise about as nasty of a local gamma and Xray exposed location as you're going to get. - Brad Guth |
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On Jul 20, 11:26 am, BradGuth wrote:
On May 28, 12:07 am, BradGuth wrote: On May 3, 7:56 pm, "BradGuth" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message news:943268f4698ce93ff8aabb231b766a9b.49644@mygat e.mailgate.org VenusL2(VL2) is supposedly 1,014,300 km 1,014,200 km = 86% shaded by Venus, receiving 14% worth of the solar photosphere plus a little extra illumination. As per usual, the incest mutated naysay mindset of Usenet is stuck deeply into the nearest space toilet. There's lots of absolutely nifty things (all good) about POOF City atVenusL2. Unfortunately, not even Usenet cam.misc is up to the task. It's as though the topic/author taboo is still in full swing, of covering thy silly Usenet butts. Even the MI/NSA spooks and moles have backed off from this one. - BradGuth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server -http://www.Mailgate.ORG That's extremely odd, being that Venus L2(VL2) is so POOF City doable, if not potentially a wee bit too cool, yet there's not an honest contructive word within all of Usenet to behold. It's as though the truth about much of anything is taboo rated. There's sufficient evidence of other intelligent life existing/ coexisting on Venus, and at times it's as close by as 100 fold the distance of our moon. You'd think that argument alone would be worth a few other words by those claiming as knowing all there is to know. Of accomplishing VL2 is just plain doable, as being well within existing technology, though apparently I'm on the official NO FLY list. - BradGuth - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell Why has this topic been to hard to grasp? What's so insurmountable about utilizing VL2? Wouldn't a mostly robotic platform of science instruments at Venus L2 be rather impressive, and otherwise downright nifty? Wouldn't having a space depot/gateway as a human habitat of POOFs at VL2 be a whole lot better off than anything ISS/ESS related? -BradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Venus L2(VL2) is in fact a cool location, and otherwise humanly survivable to boot. From VL2 is where the remote science of Venus can be accommodated in several ways that just couldn't happen any other way. Of course, I've argued the very same about Earth and moon related science as easily obtained from the moon's L1. According to the likes of Carl Sagan, as well as those recently getting promoted and thus published by way of GOOGLE/NOVA, the cosmic soup of potential life as we know it is just about everywhere, and of intelligent other life simply can't be all that hard to find, that is unless you're into intentionally ignoring and/or excluding evidence, or merely having been into skewing those laws a physics in order to suit whatever's your faith-based swarm mindset of naysayism to all that's off-world. At least the newish planetology of Venus has no shortage of raw elements or local energy in order to accomplish whatever. All that you'd ever need to be in order to survive on Venus, is being smarter than a hot rock. The artificial modifications as can be seen by even the most dumbfounded eye, is simply offering more of the same proof positive that we've been summarily snookered by our own kind, that which still claims we've walked on our gamma and Xray saturated moon. Go figure otherwise. - Brad Guth |
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On Aug 7, 11:31 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Jul 20, 11:26 am, BradGuth wrote: On May 28, 12:07 am, BradGuth wrote: On May 3, 7:56 pm, "BradGuth" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message news:943268f4698ce93ff8aabb231b766a9b.49644@mygat e.mailgate.org VenusL2(VL2) is supposedly 1,014,300 km 1,014,200 km = 86% shaded by Venus, receiving 14% worth of the solar photosphere plus a little extra illumination. As per usual, the incest mutated naysay mindset of Usenet is stuck deeply into the nearest space toilet. There's lots of absolutely nifty things (all good) about POOF City atVenusL2. Unfortunately, not even Usenet cam.misc is up to the task. It's as though the topic/author taboo is still in full swing, of covering thy silly Usenet butts. Even the MI/NSA spooks and moles have backed off from this one. - BradGuth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server -http://www.Mailgate.ORG That's extremely odd, being that Venus L2(VL2) is so POOF City doable, if not potentially a wee bit too cool, yet there's not an honest contructive word within all of Usenet to behold. It's as though the truth about much of anything is taboo rated. There's sufficient evidence of other intelligent life existing/ coexisting on Venus, and at times it's as close by as 100 fold the distance of our moon. You'd think that argument alone would be worth a few other words by those claiming as knowing all there is to know. Of accomplishing VL2 is just plain doable, as being well within existing technology, though apparently I'm on the official NO FLY list. - BradGuth - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell Why has this topic been to hard to grasp? What's so insurmountable about utilizing VL2? Wouldn't a mostly robotic platform of science instruments at Venus L2 be rather impressive, and otherwise downright nifty? Wouldn't having a space depot/gateway as a human habitat of POOFs at VL2 be a whole lot better off than anything ISS/ESS related? -BradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Venus L2(VL2) is in fact a cool location, and otherwise humanly survivable to boot. From VL2 is where the remote science of Venus can be accommodated in several ways that just couldn't happen any other way. Of course, I've argued the very same about Earth and moon related science as easily obtained from the moon's L1. According to the likes of Carl Sagan, as well as those recently getting promoted and thus published by way of GOOGLE/NOVA, the cosmic soup of potential life as we know it is just about everywhere, and of intelligent other life simply can't be all that hard to find, that is unless you're into intentionally ignoring and/or excluding evidence, or merely having been into skewing those laws a physics in order to suit whatever's your faith-based swarm mindset of naysayism to all that's off-world. At least the newish planetology of Venus has no shortage of raw elements or local energy in order to accomplish whatever. All that you'd ever need to be in order to survive on Venus, is being smarter than a hot rock. The artificial modifications as can be seen by even the most dumbfounded eye, is simply offering more of the same proof positive that we've been summarily snookered by our own kind, that which still claims we've walked on our gamma and Xray saturated moon. Go figure otherwise. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Here's an even better X Prize that's worth billions if not trillions. First to establish POOF City at Venus L2 gets a 10% take of all the interplanetary action, plus whatever fees for using their space depot/ gateway. - Brad Guth - |
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