Asteriod Question

Lise Eleanor wrote:

Paul:

Good comment. Okay, in my script, the gov't has known it was coming for
almost 10 years. So, the scenario of the asteroid being deflected off
Jupiter's cloud tops would work with this that you said, "If it came from
any other direction it would
be discovered months to years in adavance of possible Earth impact", based
on your principle, correct?

This is good, because there is some technical jargon I avoided because I
didn't know how to explain why 1998FC (I think that's what it was called)
was a NEA that we didn't know about until it had already passed us.

Very, very good.

We call these little, but important, considerations "plot holes".

I'm trying to work out the plot holes.

Check out these links here to the asteroid Toutatis (Celtic for "god of
war"), which some believe will eventually slam into earth due to its
unusal orbit so close to earth.


Also some believe that most if not all of the asteroid belt was formed
long ago by the collision of two planets, leaving the destroyed remains
forming into a belt. Others believe that the asteroid belt is composed
of captured debris from other collisions. Some even believe that our
moon is a captured remnant of two planets which collided aeons ago.


--

"Asteroid Toutatis, officially numbered 4179, was discovered by French
astronomers in 1989. Researchers can't predict far enough into the
future to rule out Toutatis ever slamming into Earth, so it is listed
officially as a Potentially Hazardous Asteroid. NASA says it won't hit
for at least the next six centuries." - Robert Roy Britt of space.com

http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=3763
http://www.globalpsychics.com/lp/Pro...s.htm#Toutatis
http://www.artpolitic.org/infopedia/..._Toutatis.html
http://seekers.100megs6.com/Asteroid%20Toutatis.htm
http://www.cyber-north.com/ufo/toutatis.html

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:41:59 -0400, Lise Eleanor wrote:

Thank you Wally.

This is something simple that can be shown on film. So, I've re-written it
so:

An asteroid knifes through blackness, Jupiter looming in its path. It
strikes the cloudtops around the planet's surface and skitters off on a
new collision course, a cloud trail following in its wake.

Is this better?

Well, if you omit the part about the planet's surface - Jupiter has no real
surface... And the cloud trail wouldn't actually follow the asteroid like a
comet - there would be a trail whil while it's going through Jupiter's
atmosphere, but outside it there would still be only a big rock

--
The butler did it.

Lise Eleanor wrote:

How's this?

An asteroid knifes through blackness, Jupiter looming in its path. It
strikes the cloud tops around the planet's surface at a shallow angle and
deflects to a new course, a cloud-trail following in its wake.


You do realize that the asteroid belt is between Mars and Jupiter. I
guess some asteroids have been mapped which share the orbit of Jupiter
and are called Trojans.

--

Asteroid-Belt :The region between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter
(centered around 2.8 AU) in which most asteroids are found. The largest,
Ceres, is nearly 1,000 kilometres (600 miles) across and they range in
size down to dust particles. Many thousands have been individually
identified and it is believed that there could be half a million with
diameters larger than 1.6 kilometres (1 mile). However, the total mass
of all asteroids is less than one-thousandth the mass of the Earth. Most
asteroid orbits are concentrated in the asteroid belt between Mars and
Jupiter at distances ranging from 2.0 to 3.3 AU from the Sun. There are
however asteroids in orbits nearer the Sun, such as the Amor group, the
Apollo group and the Aten group, and some more distant from the Sun,
such as the Centaurs. The Trojan asteroids share Jupiter's orbit.

Mo

http://milan.milanovic.org/math/engl...s/titius0.html

Wow, Mad Scientist!

" Also some believe that most if not all of the asteroid belt was formed
long ago by the collision of two planets, leaving the destroyed remains
forming into a belt. Others believe that the asteroid belt is composed
of captured debris from other collisions. Some even believe that our
moon is a captured remnant of two planets which collided aeons ago."

In the words of Michael J. Fox to James Wood in "The Hard Way":

That was f***ing great!

May I quote you on that? The geologist/meterologist, Assistant Professor
JAMES BORLAND, 30, needs some techy jargon. That would be perfect.

And yes, the script is basically this:

After eons of misinterpretation, Margot decodes an ancient system which
proves to be the only modern science capable of sparing Earth an impending
meteor strike.



So, I'll be checking out these links you've suggested.



P.S. "Mad Scientist". I used to be. But, then I started writing scripts and
got it all out of my system. (My field of research is ancient artifacts and
mysteries.) Now I don't yak everyone's ear off about my "theories" and
"discoveries". My friends appreciate it! I whip my proofs into a fact based
visual body of work and interlace it with a story.

I bet some of you in this group have some mind-blowing theory, or group of
theories, to write into a kick-ass movie script.




--
From the Desk of Lise Eleanor
http://www3.sympatico.ca/l_e/

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
. cable.rogers.com...


Lise Eleanor wrote:

Paul:

Good comment. Okay, in my script, the gov't has known it was coming for
almost 10 years. So, the scenario of the asteroid being deflected off
Jupiter's cloud tops would work with this that you said, "If it came
from
any other direction it would
be discovered months to years in adavance of possible Earth impact",
based
on your principle, correct?

This is good, because there is some technical jargon I avoided because I
didn't know how to explain why 1998FC (I think that's what it was
called)
was a NEA that we didn't know about until it had already passed us.

Very, very good.

We call these little, but important, considerations "plot holes".

I'm trying to work out the plot holes.

Check out these links here to the asteroid Toutatis (Celtic for "god of
war"), which some believe will eventually slam into earth due to its
unusal orbit so close to earth.


Also some believe that most if not all of the asteroid belt was formed
long ago by the collision of two planets, leaving the destroyed remains
forming into a belt. Others believe that the asteroid belt is composed
of captured debris from other collisions. Some even believe that our
moon is a captured remnant of two planets which collided aeons ago.


--

"Asteroid Toutatis, officially numbered 4179, was discovered by French
astronomers in 1989. Researchers can't predict far enough into the
future to rule out Toutatis ever slamming into Earth, so it is listed
officially as a Potentially Hazardous Asteroid. NASA says it won't hit
for at least the next six centuries." - Robert Roy Britt of space.com

http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=3763
http://www.globalpsychics.com/lp/Pro...s.htm#Toutatis
http://www.artpolitic.org/infopedia/..._Toutatis.html
http://seekers.100megs6.com/Asteroid%20Toutatis.htm
http://www.cyber-north.com/ufo/toutatis.html

Gotcha. This good now?

An asteroid knifes through blackness, Jupiter looming in its path. It
strikes the cloud tops around the planet at a shallow angle and
deflects to a new course.



--
From the Desk of Lise Eleanor
http://www3.sympatico.ca/l_e/
"Ugo" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:41:59 -0400, Lise Eleanor wrote:

Thank you Wally.

This is something simple that can be shown on film. So, I've re-written
it
so:

An asteroid knifes through blackness, Jupiter looming in its path. It
strikes the cloudtops around the planet's surface and skitters off on a
new collision course, a cloud trail following in its wake.

Is this better?

Well, if you omit the part about the planet's surface - Jupiter has no
real
surface... And the cloud trail wouldn't actually follow the asteroid like
a
comet - there would be a trail whil while it's going through Jupiter's
atmosphere, but outside it there would still be only a big rock

--
The butler did it.

*grin*

Silly me!

No, I didn't realize. But, thanks for mentioning it. I read about the Aten,
Amor and Apollo asteroids. So, if I understand THIS:

A Trojan asteroid/comet in Jupiter's orbit could be careened into by another
asteroid/comet and pool-balled into our pocket.

Yes?

--
From the Desk of Lise Eleanor
http://www3.sympatico.ca/l_e/
"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
.cable.rogers.com...


Lise Eleanor wrote:

How's this?

An asteroid knifes through blackness, Jupiter looming in its path. It
strikes the cloud tops around the planet's surface at a shallow angle
and
deflects to a new course, a cloud-trail following in its wake.


You do realize that the asteroid belt is between Mars and Jupiter. I
guess some asteroids have been mapped which share the orbit of Jupiter
and are called Trojans.

--

Asteroid-Belt :The region between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter
(centered around 2.8 AU) in which most asteroids are found. The largest,
Ceres, is nearly 1,000 kilometres (600 miles) across and they range in
size down to dust particles. Many thousands have been individually
identified and it is believed that there could be half a million with
diameters larger than 1.6 kilometres (1 mile). However, the total mass
of all asteroids is less than one-thousandth the mass of the Earth. Most
asteroid orbits are concentrated in the asteroid belt between Mars and
Jupiter at distances ranging from 2.0 to 3.3 AU from the Sun. There are
however asteroids in orbits nearer the Sun, such as the Amor group, the
Apollo group and the Aten group, and some more distant from the Sun,
such as the Centaurs. The Trojan asteroids share Jupiter's orbit.

Mo

http://milan.milanovic.org/math/engl...s/titius0.html

Heheheh, cool! Ofcourse you can quote me. I was quoted in the X-Files
Move script as well. But don't tell anyone.

Lise Eleanor wrote:

Wow, Mad Scientist!

" Also some believe that most if not all of the asteroid belt was formed

long ago by the collision of two planets, leaving the destroyed remains
forming into a belt. Others believe that the asteroid belt is composed
of captured debris from other collisions. Some even believe that our
moon is a captured remnant of two planets which collided aeons ago."


In the words of Michael J. Fox to James Wood in "The Hard Way":

That was f***ing great!

May I quote you on that? The geologist/meterologist, Assistant Professor
JAMES BORLAND, 30, needs some techy jargon. That would be perfect.

And yes, the script is basically this:

After eons of misinterpretation, Margot decodes an ancient system which
proves to be the only modern science capable of sparing Earth an impending
meteor strike.



So, I'll be checking out these links you've suggested.



P.S. "Mad Scientist". I used to be. But, then I started writing scripts and
got it all out of my system. (My field of research is ancient artifacts and
mysteries.) Now I don't yak everyone's ear off about my "theories" and
"discoveries". My friends appreciate it! I whip my proofs into a fact based
visual body of work and interlace it with a story.

I bet some of you in this group have some mind-blowing theory, or group of
theories, to write into a kick-ass movie script.


Yes I know. It comes with time. I learned to live with others not
welcoming my opinions too. Say I have an idea for a kick-ass horror
movie script. Any suggestions on how to get started, who to contact,
how to go about writing it, etc.?

Lise Eleanor wrote:

I checked on that Oort cloud and found the proven Keiper belt data. This
imagery is a bit much for the purpose of the script. Things have to be
simplifed. But, I did check it out and thought about it as a possibility.

One problem you may find with most 'realistic' scenarios is that they
don't make for very exciting film.

"An asteroid knifes through blackness, Jupiter a bright but tiny
crescent to sunward. Over the course of several months and millions
of kilometres its orbit shifts imperceptibly.

"FIFTEEN YEARS LATER

"The asteroid knifes through blackness, Jupiter again a bright
crescent to sunward, not quite so tiny this time and less far abeam.
Over the course of several months and millions of kilometres its
orbit shifts imperceptibly.

"FIFTEEN YEARS LATER

"The asteroid still knifes through blackness, Jupiter once again a
bright crescent to sunward, noticeably larger now and closer to our
heading. Over the course of several months and millions of kilometres
its orbit shifts imperceptibly.

FIFTEEN YEARS LATER ..."

Gripping stuff, isn't it?

--
Odysseus

That's cool! I was a fan. I really liked "Cigarette Man". He was so elusive.
Kinda grimy though. Good character.

If you want to email me your real name--

Hey! You're CANADIAN!!!!

Moi aussi!

I'm in Guelph.

My email addy is

X-Files=Vancouver, BC.

*huge smile*

--
From the Desk of Lise Eleanor
http://www3.sympatico.ca/l_e/
"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
.cable.rogers.com...
Heheheh, cool! Ofcourse you can quote me. I was quoted in the X-Files
Move script as well. But don't tell anyone.

Lise Eleanor wrote:

Wow, Mad Scientist!

" Also some believe that most if not all of the asteroid belt was
formed

long ago by the collision of two planets, leaving the destroyed remains
forming into a belt. Others believe that the asteroid belt is composed
of captured debris from other collisions. Some even believe that our
moon is a captured remnant of two planets which collided aeons ago."


In the words of Michael J. Fox to James Wood in "The Hard Way":

That was f***ing great!

May I quote you on that? The geologist/meterologist, Assistant Professor
JAMES BORLAND, 30, needs some techy jargon. That would be perfect.

And yes, the script is basically this:

After eons of misinterpretation, Margot decodes an ancient system which
proves to be the only modern science capable of sparing Earth an
impending
meteor strike.



So, I'll be checking out these links you've suggested.



P.S. "Mad Scientist". I used to be. But, then I started writing scripts
and
got it all out of my system. (My field of research is ancient artifacts
and
mysteries.) Now I don't yak everyone's ear off about my "theories" and
"discoveries". My friends appreciate it! I whip my proofs into a fact
based
visual body of work and interlace it with a story.

I bet some of you in this group have some mind-blowing theory, or group
of
theories, to write into a kick-ass movie script.


Yes I know. It comes with time. I learned to live with others not
welcoming my opinions too. Say I have an idea for a kick-ass horror
movie script. Any suggestions on how to get started, who to contact,
how to go about writing it, etc.?

Odysseus:

lol... can't write what the audience can't perceive. How do they know it's
been several months and millions of kilometers? I won't put "crawl"
(scrolling text) on my work.

We'd probably show it as a [black] rock hurtling through black space
(probably glittery black rock to catch the lighting and make it appear to be
travelling very quickly), Jupiter off in the background, on the left side of
the screen. The asteroid veers in on a shallow angle, passes through a bit
of the cloud, ricochets off to the left (pulling a small trail of cloud
behind, briefly) and dashes off into blackness again. (The audience will
know, being intelligent, that the asteroid is obviously heading for Earth -
or there'd be no point making the movie.) Etc..

I know it's a lot of work for four lines of script, but accuracy is
essential for me, as this script is about real research and provable theory.
It's based in piezoelectromagnetism.

Try saying that 10 times!

:-)

--
From the Desk of Lise Eleanor
http://www3.sympatico.ca/l_e/
"Odysseus" wrote in message
...
Lise Eleanor wrote:

I checked on that Oort cloud and found the proven Keiper belt data. This
imagery is a bit much for the purpose of the script. Things have to be
simplifed. But, I did check it out and thought about it as a
possibility.

One problem you may find with most 'realistic' scenarios is that they
don't make for very exciting film.

"An asteroid knifes through blackness, Jupiter a bright but tiny
crescent to sunward. Over the course of several months and millions
of kilometres its orbit shifts imperceptibly.

"FIFTEEN YEARS LATER

"The asteroid knifes through blackness, Jupiter again a bright
crescent to sunward, not quite so tiny this time and less far abeam.
Over the course of several months and millions of kilometres its
orbit shifts imperceptibly.

"FIFTEEN YEARS LATER

"The asteroid still knifes through blackness, Jupiter once again a
bright crescent to sunward, noticeably larger now and closer to our
heading. Over the course of several months and millions of kilometres
its orbit shifts imperceptibly.

FIFTEEN YEARS LATER ..."

Gripping stuff, isn't it?

--
Odysseus