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Old November 4th 12, 03:05 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Srinivas Bhatt
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Is it better to study formation of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe or is it wiser to study evolution of intelligence of human brain and to arrive at a fair conclusion?

http://crestvideos.com/relevance-of-seti-research/
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Old November 4th 12, 05:49 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Srinivas Bhatt wrote in
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Is it better to study formation of intelligent life elsewhere in the
universe or is it wiser to study evolution of intelligence of human
brain and to arrive at a fair conclusion?

http://crestvideos.com/relevance-of-seti-research/


You mean that they found intelligent life here on earth?
What do you know.........
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Old November 4th 12, 07:01 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Nov 4, 9:05*am, Srinivas Bhatt wrote:
Is it better to study formation of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe or is it wiser to study evolution of intelligence of
human brain and to arrive at a fair conclusion?


That is a false dichotomy, although we have no scientific evidence
whatsoever for the existence of ET intelligence, only speculation,
most of it not very sophisticated.

We do have much to learn from studying non-human intelligence here on
Earth.

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Old November 5th 12, 07:14 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Nov 4, 6:05*am, Srinivas Bhatt wrote:
Is it better to study formation of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe or is it wiser to study evolution of intelligence of human brain and to arrive at a fair conclusion?

http://crestvideos.com/relevance-of-seti-research/


A safe bet is that 10% of solar systems host some degree of complex
life, and perhaps 1% of those offer a home to intelligent life that's
comparable to what we humans consider as intelligence.

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Old November 5th 12, 01:55 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Nov 4, 7:05*am, Srinivas Bhatt wrote:
Is it better to study formation of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe or is it wiser to study evolution of intelligence of human brain and to arrive at a fair conclusion?


That is a funny kind of question to ask.

Without even looking at your video, I can guess that you are
presenting some sort of "study" of how the intelligence of the human
brain evolved which has led to some conclusion... and on the basis of
that conclusion, the claim is made that we are now so certain there
can be no intelligent life elsewhere that it's a waste of time to even
bother looking for it.

In fact, though, since if there was any other intelligent life in the
Universe, it would be so far away that there is very little we can do
to look for it, SETI projects generally only get small amounts of
private or unofficial funding.

So where's the colossal waste of tax dollars to get excited about?

In the absence of that, why does SETI worry you?

So my next guess about your agenda comes along. My suspicion is that
you're threatened by scientists taking the idea of alien life
seriously because it undermines certain forms of religious belief. The
narrow-minded and intolerant forms, in particular.

John Savard
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Old November 5th 12, 02:32 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Nov 5, 1:55*pm, Quadibloc wrote:

So my next guess about your agenda comes along. My suspicion is that
you're threatened by scientists taking the idea of alien life
seriously because it undermines certain forms of religious belief. The
narrow-minded and intolerant forms, in particular.

John Savard


It is amazing the inferences an intelligent poster can read into an
apparently simple line of text. :-)

The major problem with recognising intelligence is the preconception
that it must be exactly like "me" but not like "us" in the general
sense of Homo sapiens. We, as a race, stumble along like a drunk on a
rock strewn beach. Endlessly repeating the same mistakes from one
footfall to the next. "We" are ruled by our hunches, inhibitions and
intolerance of the slightest difference between us. Experts at every
shade of pale which can be used to demote another being, neighbour,
mammal, plant, animal or insect to a subordinate role.

Our literature and entertainment have no scientific value in the
search for intelligent "aliens." Our leaders pretend none exist while
playing double bluffs around every new and old news story on the
subject. Somebody has to answer the important questions about our
origins but the raving imams and paedophile priests are unworthy
choices for seeking any truth. (At all!)

A conservative 99% of observers would be useless as witnesses to a
very public touchdown on the White House Lawn. We look at YouTube and
other social networks and often completely fail to find intelligent
life there. Our races' future may one day have to rely on a defence of
total insanity should any alien species show up to ask whether we
deserve to continue living. A glance at a random day's news suggests
nothing less than crippling, genetic, chronic, raving lunacy! Yet we
consider ourselves superior? To what? 8|
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Old November 5th 12, 03:15 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On 05/11/2012 12:55, Quadibloc wrote:
On Nov 4, 7:05 am, Srinivas Bhatt wrote:
Is it better to study formation of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe or is it wiser to study evolution of intelligence of human brain and to arrive at a fair conclusion?


That is a funny kind of question to ask.

Without even looking at your video, I can guess that you are
presenting some sort of "study" of how the intelligence of the human
brain evolved which has led to some conclusion... and on the basis of
that conclusion, the claim is made that we are now so certain there
can be no intelligent life elsewhere that it's a waste of time to even
bother looking for it.


Actually the video seems to be a pretty reasonable and well reasoned
talk by Seth Shostak about SETI and the possibility of alien life.

Computer models and universal translators are becoming within our
computational power. The question "do you speak dolphin?" may one day
not too far into the future be answered with a "yes".

In fact, though, since if there was any other intelligent life in the
Universe, it would be so far away that there is very little we can do
to look for it, SETI projects generally only get small amounts of
private or unofficial funding.


There isn't a lot of harm in it.

And you never know what they might find. The serendipitous discovery of
radio pulsars was marked on the strip chart as LGM originally.

So where's the colossal waste of tax dollars to get excited about?

In the absence of that, why does SETI worry you?


Showing that the Earth is older than 6000 years and is not the centre of
the universe upsets the religious rightard applecart.

So my next guess about your agenda comes along. My suspicion is that
you're threatened by scientists taking the idea of alien life
seriously because it undermines certain forms of religious belief. The
narrow-minded and intolerant forms, in particular.

John Savard


Possibly but despite the strange question which seems to be paraphrased
from the site itself the video looked reasonable at first glance.

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Old November 5th 12, 04:08 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Martin Brown:
Showing that the Earth is older than 6000 years and is not the centre of
the universe upsets the religious rightard applecart.


Not really. Those who believe that can't have their beliefs changed;
they can't be "shown" that the Earth is very old. Look at it this way.
You are convinced beyond doubt and beyond changing your mind that the
shape of the Earth is a good approximation of a sphere. What are the
chances that I could persuade you to accept that it is cubical in
shape?

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Old November 5th 12, 07:59 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Nov 4, 3:05*pm, Srinivas Bhatt wrote:
Is it better to study formation of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe or is it wiser to study evolution of intelligence of human brain and to arrive at a fair conclusion?

http://crestvideos.com/relevance-of-seti-research/


It was actually a fascinating talk by a great speaker. Full of humour
and brimming with intelligence.

I'm glad this very clever chap is searching for the nearly impossible.
Rather than carrying out the endless search to end all future
possibilities. All in the corrupt name of flag-waving nationalism,
economic, monopolistic imperialism and slavery-supported materialism.

Or words to that effect.
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Old November 5th 12, 09:37 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On 11/5/12 10:59 AM, Chris.B wrote:
http://crestvideos.com/relevance-of-seti-research/

It was actually a fascinating talk by a great speaker. Full of humour
and brimming with intelligence.


agreed.
good summary level talk.
 




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