How will the public respond to a astronaut dying at the station?

We have been VERY LUCKY, never had a astronaut die at ISS.

Today there was a close call a water leak in a astronauts space suit..

If it had been a bad day will that hurt support for ISS and nasa

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We have been VERY LUCKY, never had a astronaut die at ISS.

The same way it's always responded when an astronaut dies.

Today there was a close call a water leak in a astronauts space suit..

If it had been a bad day will that hurt support for ISS and nasa

You know, your morbid thoughts are quite disturbing and quite
predictable. I knew the moment the story broke that your twisted mind
would immediately ask the question, "What would everyone think if that
astronaut had drowned in their spacesuit?" Seriously Bob, you're one
sick person. Please get some professional help.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

On 7/16/2013 9:36 PM, bob haller wrote:
there was a close call a water leak in a astronauts space suit

What makes you think that constituted a "close call"?

"Jeff Findley" wrote in message
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says...

We have been VERY LUCKY, never had a astronaut die at ISS.

The same way it's always responded when an astronaut dies.

Today there was a close call a water leak in a astronauts space suit..

If it had been a bad day will that hurt support for ISS and nasa

You know, your morbid thoughts are quite disturbing and quite
predictable. I knew the moment the story broke that your twisted mind
would immediately ask the question, "What would everyone think if that
astronaut had drowned in their spacesuit?" Seriously Bob, you're one
sick person. Please get some professional help.


While I do doubt drowning was any real risk, I do have to wonder about
aspirating water into the lungs.

I'm not quite as alarmist as Bob is here, but I'd be a bit worried.

Something "bad" happened. How bad time will tell.

Jeff

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On 7/16/2013 9:36 PM, bob haller wrote:
We have been VERY LUCKY, never had a astronaut die at ISS.

Today there was a close call a water leak in a astronauts space suit..

If it had been a bad day will that hurt support for ISS and nasa


Absent the presumed question mark at the end of that last phrase,
the answer is: no.

What ultimately would hurt support for NASA and *any* of its projects
(ISS included) is if we ever get to engaging the public in a false
dichotomy of a zero-sum budget dispute between NASA and some vaunted
entitlement.

Dave

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On 7/16/2013 9:36 PM, bob haller wrote:
there was a close call a water leak in a astronauts space suit

What makes you think that constituted a "close call"?

An astronaut could sneeze on the faceplate of their helmet, ending an
EVA early due to reduced visibility, and it would still be a "close
call" to Bob.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

Wherever it came from, it was a serious issue. In the absence of gravity, water tends to pool in blobs and inside the cramped confines of a space helmet, a large amount of water could trigger uncontrolled coughing and, possibly, even drowning.

"Choking or drowning is definitely a possibility" if enough water is present, said Karina Eversley, the lead spacewalk officer at the Johnson Space Center in Houston

: bob haller
: Wherever it came from, it was a serious issue. In the absence of
: gravity, water tends to pool in blobs and inside the cramped confines
: of a space helmet, a large amount of water could trigger uncontrolled
: coughing and, possibly, even drowning.
:
: "Choking or drowning is definitely a possibility" if enough water is
: present, said Karina Eversley, the lead spacewalk officer at the
: Johnson Space Center in Houston

If enough water is present, the bends could be a problem (even in space,
if there were enough water to either fill the waterproof enclosure and
develop a head of pressure; or if it were large enough to self-gravitate).
(And if there were nitrogen in the atmosphere.)

But I still wouldn'd say that leak was a close call narrowly avoiding
the first case of the bends in space.

So instead of flailing around saying that it was a close call (if only
there were enough water), why don't you find out how much water was
involved, and whether there could have been more, what could have been
done about it, etc, rather than leaping up and rushing to spread FUD
and panic first thing, and then trying to dig up more dangerous sounding
comments after it turns out ot be a tempest in a thimble? Hmmm? Why not?
Why always the FUD and the panic with you, first last and always, hmmm?

it was not the drink bags so the cooling garment appears the water source. nasa has cancelled all space walks till this is solved

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: bob haller
: Wherever it came from, it was a serious issue. In the absence of
: gravity, water tends to pool in blobs and inside the cramped confines
: of a space helmet, a large amount of water could trigger uncontrolled
: coughing and, possibly, even drowning.
:
: "Choking or drowning is definitely a possibility" if enough water is
: present, said Karina Eversley, the lead spacewalk officer at the
: Johnson Space Center in Houston

If enough water is present, the bends could be a problem (even in space,
if there were enough water to either fill the waterproof enclosure and
develop a head of pressure; or if it were large enough to self-gravitate).
(And if there were nitrogen in the atmosphere.)

This makes no sense.

#1 The bends is caused by a *decrease* in pressure resulting in N2
bubbles in the body fluids. This is why the astronauts "camp out" in
the airlock module, with reduced N2 in the atmosphere, in order to rid
their bodies of excess N2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quest_J..._out_procedure

At any rate, it's not likely they'll get the bends, unless suit pressure
decreases. And if it does that, they've got far bigger problems than
the bends (i.e. dying from lack of oxygen).

#2 The suit maintains pressure and won't let it exceed the maximum
setting. Add to that the fact that the leaking water is necessarily
inside the pressurized part to begin with and I don't see how a leak
would change the pressure in the system anyway. The leak is likely from
the (water) coolant loop on the pressurized side of the system, which
flows through the cooling garment.

#3 There is absolutely no N2 in the suit. Spacesuits operate at low
pressure (4.3 psi or 30 kPa) and necessarily are pressurized with O2
only.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrave..._Mobility_Unit

But I still wouldn'd say that leak was a close call narrowly avoiding
the first case of the bends in space.

I would.

So instead of flailing around saying that it was a close call (if only
there were enough water), why don't you find out how much water was
involved, and whether there could have been more, what could have been
done about it, etc, rather than leaping up and rushing to spread FUD
and panic first thing, and then trying to dig up more dangerous sounding
comments after it turns out ot be a tempest in a thimble? Hmmm? Why not?
Why always the FUD and the panic with you, first last and always, hmmm?

The real issue, already pointed out by someone else, would be aspiration
of water into the lungs caused by water sticking to the astronaut's
face. It's not like the astronaut has the ability to wipe his face with
his hands while in the EMU.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer