Soviet Mars 3 lander found?

Why not recover viking one for display? It goes back to the dawn of
the space age and would make a wonderful display. I think its booster
is in the same area, perhaps it could be recovered too?

These type of artifacts could make awesome displays

while returning some science about long term exposure to space

If theres a original leftover viking one thats unflown, the 2 could
be displayed alongside one another

Why not recover vanguard one for display? It goes back to the dawn of
the space age and would make a wonderful display. I think its booster
is in the same area, perhaps it could be recovered too?

These type of artifacts could make awesome displays


while returning some science about long term exposure to space


If theres a original leftover viking one thats unflown, the 2 could
be displayed alongside one another

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:36:48 AM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
Why not recover viking one for display? It goes back to the dawn of

the space age and would make a wonderful display. I think its booster

is in the same area, perhaps it could be recovered too?



These type of artifacts could make awesome displays



while returning some science about long term exposure to space



If theres a original leftover viking one thats unflown, the 2 could

be displayed alongside one another

Viking 1 hardly goes back to the "dawn of the space age".

On Apr 25, 9:39*am, bob haller wrote:
Why not recover vanguard one for display? It goes back to the dawn of
the space age and would make a wonderful display. I think its booster
is in the same area, perhaps it could be recovered too?

These type of artifacts *could make awesome displays

while returning some science about long term exposure to space

If theres a original leftover viking one *thats unflown, the 2 could
be displayed alongside one another

I meant a vanguard one....

In article 7811d4cb-933e-4825-8d9b-7b8ee98896c9
@r6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...

Why not recover viking one for display? It goes back to the dawn of
the space age and would make a wonderful display. I think its booster
is in the same area, perhaps it could be recovered too?

Even more stupid than recovering Snoopy.

These type of artifacts could make awesome displays

Only if cost is no object. But that isn't the case. No one is going to
spend the tens of billions of dollars it would require to recover an
entire Viking lander from Mars.

while returning some science about long term exposure to space

Viking isn't in space, it's on the surface of Mars. It would be better
to do to Viking what was done to Surveyor 3 by Apollo 12. In other
words, just take a few key pieces back, but leave the bulk of Viking on
Mars.

If theres a original leftover viking one thats unflown, the 2 could
be displayed alongside one another

Dumb. Just dumb. Leave flown (lunar and Mars) probes where they are.
They are more historic landmarks than they are something to recover and
put on display in a museum.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

On Apr 25, 11:03*am, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article 7811d4cb-933e-4825-8d9b-7b8ee98896c9
@r6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...



Why not recover viking one for display? It goes back to the dawn of
the space age and would make a wonderful display. I think its booster
is in the same area, perhaps it could be recovered too?

Even more stupid than recovering Snoopy.

These type of artifacts *could make awesome displays

Only if cost is no object. *But that isn't the case. *No one is going to
spend the tens of billions of dollars it would require to recover an
entire Viking lander from Mars.

while returning some science about long term exposure to space

Viking isn't in space, it's on the surface of Mars. *It would be better
to do to Viking what was done to Surveyor 3 by Apollo 12. *In other
words, just take a few key pieces back, but leave the bulk of Viking on
Mars.

If theres a original leftover viking one *thats unflown, the 2 could
be displayed alongside one another

Dumb. *Just dumb. *Leave flown (lunar and Mars) probes where they are..
They are more historic landmarks than they are something to recover and
put on display in a museum.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

sorry as I said before VANGUARD...... there are several in earth
orbit, along with their spent boosters.....

They could make for excellent exhibits

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:03:09 AM UTC-7, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article 7811d4cb-933e-4825-8d9b-7b8ee98896c9 @r6g2000yqh.googlegroups..com, says... Why not recover viking one for display? It goes back to the dawn of the space age and would make a wonderful display. I think its booster is in the same area, perhaps it could be recovered too? Even more stupid than recovering Snoopy.

Bob did say "Vanguard" is his original post, and then mistakingly put "Viking" later. It was pretty obvious what he meant, though.

On Apr 25, 8:33*pm, " wrote:
On Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:03:09 AM UTC-7, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article 7811d4cb-933e-4825-8d9b-7b8ee98896c9 @r6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says... Why not recover viking one for display? It goes back to the dawn of the space age and would make a wonderful display. I think its booster is in the same area, perhaps it could be recovered too? Even more stupid than recovering Snoopy.

Bob did say "Vanguard" is his original post, and then mistakingly put "Viking" later. It was pretty obvious what he meant, though.

thanks. vanguard one is the longest spacecraft still in space, its
about 55 years old, and small enough to easily capture and it should
fit in a ISS musk returning supply ship

In article d16ffdd4-abb0-4821-b1fc-2aa8814a8768
@i5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...

sorry as I said before VANGUARD...... there are several in earth
orbit, along with their spent boosters.....

They could make for excellent exhibits

No, they wouldn't. Most people don't care about such trivia. The cost
to recover and display this sort of space junk is far too high for the
small interest it would generate.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

On Apr 26, 8:38*am, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article d16ffdd4-abb0-4821-b1fc-2aa8814a8768
@i5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...



sorry as I said before VANGUARD...... there are several in earth
orbit, along with their spent boosters.....

They could make for excellent exhibits

No, they wouldn't. *Most people don't care about such trivia. *The cost
to recover and display this sort of space junk is far too high for the
small interest it would generate.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

well there is a plan to return vanguard to a earth museum

Just like there was a plan to recover gus grissoms capsule and saturn
5 engines.....

Plus some historic things may be recovered before they burn
up .........

vanguard recovery has a lot going for it, it was a first, and is small
and realtively close, plus ion engines are now available, and its
small enough to bring home in a capsule