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Old December 26th 06, 10:10 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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At 10 metres per second, which is a reasonably fast pace vertically, it will
take 46 days to climb a Space Elevator to geostationary orbit. Has anyone
considered the amount of consumables needed to accompany any crew on such a
journey?


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Old December 27th 06, 12:30 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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"daedalus" wrote in message
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At 10 metres per second, which is a reasonably fast pace vertically, it
will take 46 days to climb a Space Elevator to geostationary orbit. Has
anyone considered the amount of consumables needed to accompany any crew
on such a journey?


Shouldn't we worry about getting the thing to work first?

George


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Old December 27th 06, 03:18 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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"daedalus" wrote in message
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At 10 metres per second, which is a reasonably fast pace vertically, it
will take 46 days to climb a Space Elevator to geostationary orbit. Has
anyone considered the amount of consumables needed to accompany any crew
on such a journey?


I'm guessing about.. umm.. 46 days worth.

But why limit yourself to 10 m/s. Especially once you're above the bulk of
the atmosphere. At 100 m/s you're talking 4.6 days.






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Old December 27th 06, 03:37 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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"daedalus" wrote in message
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At 10 metres per second, which is a reasonably fast pace vertically, it will
take 46 days to climb a Space Elevator to geostationary orbit. Has anyone
considered the amount of consumables needed to accompany any crew on such a
journey?


If they're frozen solid (as within a block of ice); what consumables?

Otherwise, lots of beer and pizza, plus a good channel of televised
smutt.
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Old December 27th 06, 12:05 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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I'm going to stick my neck out and suggest that the space elevator will
never work, and probably will not even be tried.

Unless someone invents a mass simulator in the meantime, that is!

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"daedalus" wrote in message
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At 10 metres per second, which is a reasonably fast pace vertically, it
will take 46 days to climb a Space Elevator to geostationary orbit. Has
anyone considered the amount of consumables needed to accompany any crew
on such a journey?



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Old December 28th 06, 05:18 AM
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At 10 metres per second, which is a reasonably fast pace vertically, it will
take 46 days to climb a Space Elevator to geostationary orbit. Has anyone
considered the amount of consumables needed to accompany any crew on such a
journey?
Several sources place the climber speed at 200kph (55.5m/s if my math is right) making the trip to GEO (62K miles) at about a week using current space elevator designs;

CNN - http://money.cnn.com/magazines/busin...0588/index.htm

New Scientist - http://space.newscientist.com/articl...radiation.html

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Old January 1st 07, 04:14 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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Several sources place the climber speed at 200kph (55.5m/s if my math
is right) making the trip to GEO (62K miles) at about a week using
current space elevator designs;

CNN - http://tinyurl.com/nl2wq

New Scientist - http://tinyurl.com/yyxnnx


That sounds more like it, though spaceport/liftport is still an ongoing
ruse that'll keep costing us until there's nothing left to spare.

Decades from now when tonnes of whatever is getting deployed via spendy
and hard to keep-up ESE method, we'll be deep into having to survive the
likes of WW-III.

The total birth to grave energy budget for the liftport/spaceport ESE
alternative isn't getting talked about, and that's for good reason(s),
isn't it.
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Old January 2nd 07, 09:56 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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Of course... we've always got something in the way of our should-be top
priority. Think of what 330... something BILLION dollars would do for
the space industry? ****ing war... why can't people just look around
our worldly problems and stupid religious bickering.

I was once told by an old, smart guy that the percentage of "smart
people", as in the people who can just... think (you know?), make up
about 2% of the world. I think you guys know what I mean by "smart
people". I am truely starting to realize that the old man was right. We
live in a world filled with ****ing morons... even our own president,
governing the world's current leading super-power, is a complete idiot.

I have no doubt that there will be a WW-III, maybe if we are lucky we
will have proceeding digits. I think there could be something happening
with Iran. I swear to god that stubborn little ******* Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad acts just like a god damn 3 year old learning to say "no"
to his mother.

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Old January 4th 07, 08:19 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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Isn't faith-based government wonderful, along with all the spendy
collateral damage and carnage of the innocent?

What do you know about station-keeping within MEL1(moon's L1)?

How much fly-by-rocket energy does it take for parking 10 tonnes of
whatever within that MEL1 sweet spot?
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Old December 28th 06, 05:40 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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"daedalus" wrote in message
. uk...
At 10 metres per second, which is a reasonably fast pace vertically, it
will take 46 days to climb a Space Elevator to geostationary orbit. Has
anyone considered the amount of consumables needed to accompany any crew
on such a journey?


We have trains that go 200 miles/hour. I would think a "train" going up a
space elevator could go faster.

Danny Deger


 




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