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Implications of Finding a Higgs Boson
"Ben" wrote in message
... On Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:39:16 PM UTC-4, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote: "Ben" wrote in message ... Meanwhile, back at the ranch, General Relativity chalks up another on with the ESO. I wonder how much it has left in before serious cracks start appearing in its foundations. http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1319/ ================================ That goobledegook has no equations, no empirical data and says nothing, you stupid bigot. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an argument I cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet. I understand that. I would really like to see the data, you pompous fop. ============================= Why are you presenting it here? Hoping it would impress someone with journalistic hyperbole, the only support GR ever had? Too bad, I know what dog **** is when I see it and refuse to step in it. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an argument I cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet. |
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Implications of Finding a Higgs Boson
On Mar 15, 6:05*am, Davoud wrote:
Ben: I'm still not convinced that matter is not infinitely divisible as Wheeler posited in his book on Black Holes. Alrighty, then. We who are not qualified to devise these theories ourselves tend to choose the theories of others that satisfy our peculiar prejudices. Listen to yourself,mathematicians have convinced the wider population that they are privy to some insight into the celestial arena denied the wider population, something which happens to be a form of exploitation,so although their empirical voodoo may have convinced you and those who know no better the truth is that they have ruined astronomy for more than a few centuries. The most dispiriting period was knowing that when confronted with the actual reasoning behind absolute/relative time,space and motion definitions as they apply to the idiosyncratic framework on which the vicious form of 'predictive' empiricism relies for its authority,what passes for an authority today wants none of it - they like the contrived language that conceals rather than reveals anything but couldn't give a damn that Newton was actually trying to make predictive astronomy fit with interpretative astronomy which is always going to result in failure,something they argued about at the crucial historical juncture of Church and science history. http://www.sflorg.com/spacenews/imag...2307_01_02.jpg With spectacular 21st century imaging begging proper interpretation and requiring guys who can send this information in all productive and creative directions,who knows where the spark of insight will come from but one place it won't will be those who consider themselves not 'qualified' to handle data because that demonstrate a lack of confidence,competence and comfortableness with astronomy,something which is alien to those who are curious and courageous about the celestial arena and all that happens in it |
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Implications of Finding a Higgs Boson
On Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:57:49 PM UTC-4, oriel36 wrote:
On Mar 15, 6:05*am, Davoud wrote: Ben: I'm still not convinced that matter is not infinitely divisible as Wheeler posited in his book on Black Holes. Alrighty, then. We who are not qualified to devise these theories ourselves tend to choose the theories of others that satisfy our peculiar prejudices. Listen to yourself,mathematicians have convinced the wider population that they are privy to some insight into the celestial arena denied the wider population, something which happens to be a form of exploitation,so although their empirical voodoo may have convinced you and those who know no better the truth is that they have ruined astronomy for more than a few centuries. The most dispiriting period was knowing that when confronted with the actual reasoning behind absolute/relative time,space and motion definitions as they apply to the idiosyncratic framework on which the vicious form of 'predictive' empiricism relies for its authority,what passes for an authority today wants none of it - they like the contrived language that conceals rather than reveals anything but couldn't give a damn that Newton was actually trying to make predictive astronomy fit with interpretative astronomy which is always going to result in failure,something they argued about at the crucial historical juncture of Church and science history. http://www.sflorg.com/spacenews/imag...2307_01_02.jpg With spectacular 21st century imaging begging proper interpretation and requiring guys who can send this information in all productive and creative directions,who knows where the spark of insight will come from but one place it won't will be those who consider themselves not 'qualified' to handle data because that demonstrate a lack of confidence,competence and comfortableness with astronomy,something which is alien to those who are curious and courageous about the celestial arena and all that happens in it Whatever it is that you are saying, Gerald know that I haven't read any of your posts in a couple of years. I don't intend to start now. |
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Implications of Finding a Higgs Boson
On Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:42:50 PM UTC-4, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote:
"Ben" wrote in message ... On Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:39:16 PM UTC-4, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote: "Ben" wrote in message ... Meanwhile, back at the ranch, General Relativity chalks up another on with the ESO.* I wonder how much it has left in before serious cracks start appearing in its foundations. http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1319/ ================================ That goobledegook has no equations, no empirical data and says nothing, you stupid bigot. * -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an argument I cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet. I understand that.* I would really like to see the data, you pompous fop. ============================= Why are you presenting it here? Hoping it would impress someone with journalistic hyperbole, the only support GR ever had? Too bad, I know what dog **** is when I see it and refuse to step in it. Noted. Don't look in any mirrors. -- |
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On Apr 25, 10:06*pm, Ben wrote:
On Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:57:49 PM UTC-4, oriel36 wrote: On Mar 15, 6:05*am, Davoud wrote: Ben: I'm still not convinced that matter is not infinitely divisible as Wheeler posited in his book on Black Holes. Alrighty, then. We who are not qualified to devise these theories ourselves tend to choose the theories of others that satisfy our peculiar prejudices. Listen to yourself,mathematicians have convinced the wider population that they are privy to some insight into the celestial arena denied the wider population, something which happens to be a form of exploitation,so although their empirical voodoo may have convinced you *and those who know no better the truth is that they have ruined astronomy for more than a few centuries. The most dispiriting period was knowing that when confronted with the actual reasoning behind absolute/relative time,space and motion definitions as they apply to the idiosyncratic framework on which the vicious form of 'predictive' empiricism relies for its authority,what passes for an authority today wants none of it - they like the contrived language that conceals rather than reveals anything but couldn't give a damn that Newton was actually trying to make predictive astronomy fit with interpretative astronomy which is always going to result in failure,something they argued about at the crucial historical juncture of Church and science history. http://www.sflorg.com/spacenews/imag...2307_01_02.jpg With spectacular 21st century imaging begging proper interpretation and requiring guys who can send this information in all productive and creative directions,who knows where the spark of insight will come from but one place it won't will be those who consider themselves not 'qualified' to handle data because that demonstrate a lack of confidence,competence and comfortableness with astronomy,something which is alien to those who are curious and courageous about the celestial arena and all that happens in it Whatever it is that you are saying, Gerald know that I haven't read any of your posts in a couple of years. *I don't intend to start now. Describe what a 'black hole' is in geometrical terms as a physical entity. All this imaginative entity represents is empirical voodoo that exists only in the heads of mathematicians and obstructs genuine astronomy,nothing more or less .It may earn reputations and salaries for a small group and their followers who will imitate the voodoo chanting but effectively there is nothing there. |
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Implications of Finding a Higgs Boson
"Ben" wrote in message
... On Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:42:50 PM UTC-4, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote: "Ben" wrote in message ... On Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:39:16 PM UTC-4, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote: "Ben" wrote in message ... Meanwhile, back at the ranch, General Relativity chalks up another on with the ESO. I wonder how much it has left in before serious cracks start appearing in its foundations. http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1319/ ================================ That goobledegook has no equations, no empirical data and says nothing, you stupid bigot. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an argument I cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet. I understand that. I would really like to see the data, you pompous fop. ============================= Why are you presenting it here? Hoping it would impress someone with journalistic hyperbole, the only support GR ever had? Too bad, I know what dog **** is when I see it and refuse to step in it. Noted. Don't look in any mirrors. -- =============================== Attacking me won’t make your precious religion and its tin god correct, bigot. You didn’t answer my question. Why are you presenting your hype here? -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an argument I cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet. |
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Implications of Finding a Higgs Boson
On Thursday, April 25, 2013 6:13:46 PM UTC-4, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote:
"Ben" wrote in message ... On Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:42:50 PM UTC-4, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote: "Ben" wrote in message ... On Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:39:16 PM UTC-4, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote: "Ben" wrote in message ... Meanwhile, back at the ranch, General Relativity chalks up another on with the ESO.* I wonder how much it has left in before serious cracks start appearing in its foundations. http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1319/ ================================ That goobledegook has no equations, no empirical data and says nothing, you stupid bigot. * -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an argument I cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet. I understand that.* I would really like to see the data, you pompous fop. ============================= Why are you presenting it here? Hoping it would impress someone with journalistic hyperbole, the only support GR ever had? Too bad, I know what dog **** is when I see it and refuse to step in it. Noted.* Don't look in any mirrors. -- =============================== Attacking me won’t make your precious religion and its tin god correct, bigot. You didn’t answer my question. *Why are you presenting your hype here? I'm not going to answer your question either. Figure it out. |
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Implications of Finding a Higgs Boson
Ben:
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, General Relativity chalks up another on with the ESO. I wonder how much it has left in before serious cracks start appearing in its foundations. http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1319/ Cracks in the foundation presage disintegration and collapse. If that's what you meant, then for GR, the answer is almost certainly "never." Like Newtonian mechanics, GR will remain valid in its realm. It will be supplemented, improved, and what-not, but if those values that are now held to be universal constants really are constants and not subject to change over cosmological time, then GR is quite safe. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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Implications of Finding a Higgs Boson
"Ben" wrote in message
... On Thursday, April 25, 2013 6:13:46 PM UTC-4, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote: "Ben" wrote in message ... On Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:42:50 PM UTC-4, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote: "Ben" wrote in message ... On Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:39:16 PM UTC-4, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote: "Ben" wrote in message ... Meanwhile, back at the ranch, General Relativity chalks up another on with the ESO. I wonder how much it has left in before serious cracks start appearing in its foundations. http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1319/ ================================ That goobledegook has no equations, no empirical data and says nothing, you stupid bigot. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an argument I cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet. I understand that. I would really like to see the data, you pompous fop. ============================= Why are you presenting it here? Hoping it would impress someone with journalistic hyperbole, the only support GR ever had? Too bad, I know what dog **** is when I see it and refuse to step in it. Noted. Don't look in any mirrors. -- =============================== Attacking me won’t make your precious religion and its tin god correct, bigot. You didn’t answer my question. Why are you presenting your hype here? I'm not going to answer your question either. Figure it out. ================================================== ======== I already did figure it out. All that glitters is not a neutron star orbited by a white dwarf. Whoopee, GR works because Bonehead Therell says so. Clearly you are a stupid bigot preaching a religion and cherry-picking unsubstantiated drivel to support it. You present your hype here hoping to be seen as someone knowledgeable in GR when it is obvious to all that you are ignorant of mathematics and physics. You are a bull****ter like thousands of others. Be a good little boy and quit wasting my time. **** off. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an argument I cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet. |
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Implications of Finding a Higgs Boson
On Apr 26, 5:33*am, Davoud wrote:
Ben: Meanwhile, back at the ranch, General Relativity chalks up another on with the ESO. I wonder how much it has left in before serious cracks start appearing in its foundations. http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1319/ Cracks in the foundation presage disintegration and collapse. If that's what you meant, then for GR, the answer is almost certainly "never." Like Newtonian mechanics, GR will remain valid in its realm. It will be supplemented, improved, and what-not, but if those values that are now held to be universal constants really are constants and not subject to change over cosmological time, then GR is quite safe. There is a saying that a lie will go where the truth will not so that any reader and I mean any reader here can clearly recognize that the major astronomical insight that is the resolution of retrogrades does not require a hypothetical observer on the Sun to make the apparent retrograde motions disappear (the big lie) but rather the orbital motion of the Earth as it overtakes the outer planets accounts for their apparent motion while the inner planets of Venus and Mercury are a separate case - http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap011220.html The Earth is seen overtaking the outer planets in the time lapse footage which is partitioned from the inner planets and their apparent retrograde motion which results from their 'swerving' around the Sun as seen in the sequential imaging of Venus - http://www.masil-astro-imaging.com/S...age%20flat.jpg The ability to appreciate this retrograde partitioning between the inner and outer planets would have been close to impossible without the benefit of contemporary imaging as the planets are observed to move from the Earth which itself is moving so somebody must take great satisfaction from seeing the subtle differences whereas before no explanation existed other than the false notion that a hypothetical observer on the Sun accounts for all retrogrades - " For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct, sometimes stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun they are always seen direct," Newton The fact is that Illig and his colleagues are determined to cling to their convictions that Newton's clockwork solar system is the end product of thousands of years of astronomical investigations by the most brilliant minds ever to set foot on the planet and people from whom I draw inspiration,not just the ones who are renowned but especially the ones who are not including that great man who noticed that Sirius does not appear from behind the glare of the Sun constantly after consecutive 365 days but takes an extra day after 4 years and then use it to keep days aligned to the annual orbital points of the solstices and equinoxes. There is no foundation to have cracks in,there is a facade where the cracks appear and that is entirely different. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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