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Secret Sats, Giant Rockets: U.S. Unveils Space War Arsenal
"When the Space Shuttle flew its 135th and final
mission in July and retired without a direct replacement, some critics accused Washington of abandoning America’s 50-year orbital legacy. The Telegraph even called it a “retreat.” Then last week, the U.S. government revealed new and formerly secret space initiatives that underscore America’s continuing orbital dominance. NASA announced plans for the biggest-ever rocket, set to launch in six years. Meanwhile, the hush-hush National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), keeper of America’s most secretive surveillance satellites, used the occasion of its 50th birthday to declassify its ongoing orbital eavesdropping campaign over Afghanistan." See: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011...e-war-arsenal/ |
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Secret Sats, Giant Rockets: U.S. Unveils Space War Arsenal
The suggestion that the SLS has military value no doubt strikes the
Pentagon as insane. It'll take years to prep for each launch and will fly too rarely for AF, NRO, etc. to consider it reliable enough for critical national security payloads, even if they could dream up a way to use such gigantic capacity. And they can barely afford EELVs. What is this thing going to cost per launch? Assuming the SLS is successful, its utility will be limited to launching large habitats, specialized modules like a preassembled lunar observatory, and long- duration manned spacecraft. (I suspect they will end up launching the humans separately.) Matt Bille www.mattwriter.com |
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Secret Sats, Giant Rockets: U.S. Unveils Space War Arsenal
The heavy launcher must be a ruse, an attempt to bait the Chinese into spending their military budget in the wrong places. A classic diversionary tactic. When the trends are to miniaturize and fast response, the civilian program talks of massive rockets and grandiose long term goals. But then again, maybe it's the other way around? s |
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Secret Sats, Giant Rockets: U.S. Unveils Space War Arsenal
Who do NASA think they're fooling?
The X-37 is unpiloted and carries only 5 tonnes. The SLS (proposed) carries no more than 70 tonnes, 90 tonnes LESS than Saturn V. (who cares if its 35 ft taller?) The Delta IV heavy 25.8 tones, LESS than the Space Shuttle. A true improvement in capability would be a FULLY REUSABLE (all stages pieces and parts) launcher built around the Space Shuttle EXTERNAL TANK collection equipped with cross-feeding modified for re-use and recovery using a reusable aerospike engine built around a collection of five RS-68 pumps - at each unit. http://www.scribd.com/doc/31261680/Etdhlrlv-Addendum http://www.scribd.com/doc/30943696/ETDHLRLV http://www.scribd.com/doc/35439593/S...-Satellite-GEO Such a unit lofts 695 tonnes into LEO, and carries 300 tonnes across the solar system at less cost than a Delta Heavy launch! This is used to put up a comsat network of 800 satellites - in 25 launches over 2 years - creating a global wireless hotspot and capture $1 trillion per year in communications. This is also used to put up a powersat generating $8 billion in revenues per year over 30 years - at a cost of $0.03 per kWh. |
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Secret Sats, Giant Rockets: U.S. Unveils Space War Arsenal
On Sep 23, 4:46*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the newsgroup the attendants let Mookie back on the net. William Mook wrote: Who do NASA think they're fooling? Who do you think you're fooling? The X-37 is unpiloted and carries only 5 tonnes. *The SLS (proposed) carries no more than 70 tonnes, 90 tonnes LESS than Saturn V. *(who cares if its 35 ft taller?) The Delta IV heavy 25.8 tones, LESS than the Space Shuttle. And all of them are either flying hardware or well into design, unlike... A true improvement in capability would be a FULLY REUSABLE (all stages pieces and parts) launcher built around the Space Shuttle EXTERNAL TANK collection equipped with cross-feeding modified for re-use and recovery using a reusable aerospike engine built around a collection of five RS-68 pumps - at each unit. Napkin scribbling bull**** removed -- "Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is *only stupid." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine As I imagine Saul Levy might say, NASA is bankrupt! lol. |
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Secret Sats, Giant Rockets: U.S. Unveils Space War Arsenal
On Sep 23, 5:33*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote: On Sep 23, 4:46*am, Fred J. McCall wrote: Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the newsgroup the attendants let Mookie back on the net. wrote: Who do NASA think they're fooling? Who do you think you're fooling? The X-37 is unpiloted and carries only 5 tonnes. *The SLS (proposed) carries no more than 70 tonnes, 90 tonnes LESS than Saturn V. *(who cares if its 35 ft taller?) The Delta IV heavy 25.8 tones, LESS than the Space Shuttle. And all of them are either flying hardware or well into design, unlike... A true improvement in capability would be a FULLY REUSABLE (all stages pieces and parts) launcher built around the Space Shuttle EXTERNAL TANK collection equipped with cross-feeding modified for re-use and recovery using a reusable aerospike engine built around a collection of five RS-68 pumps - at each unit. Napkin scribbling bull**** removed As I imagine Saul Levy might say, NASA is bankrupt! *lol. And yet still has more flying hardware than you do. -- "Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is *only stupid." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine What is NASA flying these days? |
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Secret Sats, Giant Rockets: U.S. Unveils Space War Arsenal
On Sep 23, 2:14*am, William Mook wrote:
On Sep 23, 4:46*am, Fred J. McCall wrote: Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the newsgroup the attendants let Mookie back on the net. William Mook wrote: Who do NASA think they're fooling? Who do you think you're fooling? The X-37 is unpiloted and carries only 5 tonnes. *The SLS (proposed) carries no more than 70 tonnes, 90 tonnes LESS than Saturn V. *(who cares if its 35 ft taller?) The Delta IV heavy 25.8 tones, LESS than the Space Shuttle. And all of them are either flying hardware or well into design, unlike... A true improvement in capability would be a FULLY REUSABLE (all stages pieces and parts) launcher built around the Space Shuttle EXTERNAL TANK collection equipped with cross-feeding modified for re-use and recovery using a reusable aerospike engine built around a collection of five RS-68 pumps - at each unit. Napkin scribbling bull**** removed -- "Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is *only stupid." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine As I imagine Saul Levy might say, NASA is bankrupt! *lol. Actually, our DARPA and NASA have been bankrupt from the very get-go. They never had to show a profit or even a breakeven. What other definition of bankrupt is there? Without your stuff there's simply no way our DARPA, NASA or any other space orbital or off-world mission can represent anything except a bankrupt kind of outcome that'll never return 10% on investment, much less be allowed to show a profit. http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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