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Hubble Economics - modern math?
So NASA cancels a shuttle maintance mission and says it's cheaper to
(1) re-write the shuttle software program to work with three gyros operational instead of four; then probably with two instead of three (we don't even know this is POSSIBLE yet) (2) design, test, and built a new experiental robot spacecraft that when launched will rendezvous with the Hubble, attach to it, then guide it to splashdown in a remote part of the ocean (we don't know if this is POSSIBLE either) I find it hard to believe that a single shuttle trip to Hubble to do regular maintenance will be cheaper than these very risky, unproven elaborate programs. As far as that goes, what happens if Bush loses the election and the next President disagrees with his plans for NASA? Then several billion dollars will be spent, and many priceless missions canceled, for nothing at all. I'm as much of a fan of a mission to the moon and to Mars, but I believe that NASA should not act on what the President says. Changes in space policy of this magnitude must be approved by Congress, and officially written into law after lengthy public debate. Otherwise we're just chasing our tail like a dog. Bill Clark http://home.austin.rr.com/whcii/ |
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I couldn't agree with you more. I would dearly love to see humans sent to
Mars, as well as establishing a base on the Moon. That said, however, I believe Bush is merely grandstanding and trying to show the electorate that he has "vision." For Bush, this is no more than a political move for reelection. Something of this magnitude needs to be mote thoroughly discussed, dissected, etc, between actual science and space experts, as well as both sides of Congress, to make sure it's a workable long-range plan that can and will be implemented, no matter who may be sitting in the White House in the future. Hell! In order to come up with a long-range energy plan, Bush/Cheney spent MONTHS in consultations with energy industry leaders and the GOP leadership (although they refused to consult ALL sides...but I won't go there now..). Doesn't something of the magnitude of going to Mars deserve as much or more? "Bill Clark" wrote in message om... So NASA cancels a shuttle maintance mission and says it's cheaper to (1) re-write the shuttle software program to work with three gyros operational instead of four; then probably with two instead of three (we don't even know this is POSSIBLE yet) (2) design, test, and built a new experiental robot spacecraft that when launched will rendezvous with the Hubble, attach to it, then guide it to splashdown in a remote part of the ocean (we don't know if this is POSSIBLE either) I find it hard to believe that a single shuttle trip to Hubble to do regular maintenance will be cheaper than these very risky, unproven elaborate programs. As far as that goes, what happens if Bush loses the election and the next President disagrees with his plans for NASA? Then several billion dollars will be spent, and many priceless missions canceled, for nothing at all. I'm as much of a fan of a mission to the moon and to Mars, but I believe that NASA should not act on what the President says. Changes in space policy of this magnitude must be approved by Congress, and officially written into law after lengthy public debate. Otherwise we're just chasing our tail like a dog. Bill Clark http://home.austin.rr.com/whcii/ |
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Hubble Economics - modern math?
"Bill Clark" wrote in message
om... So NASA cancels a shuttle maintance mission and says it's cheaper to (1) re-write the shuttle software program to work with three gyros operational instead of four; then probably with two instead of three (we don't even know this is POSSIBLE yet) (2) design, test, and built a new experiental robot spacecraft that when launched will rendezvous with the Hubble, attach to it, then guide it to splashdown in a remote part of the ocean (we don't know if this is POSSIBLE either) I find it hard to believe that a single shuttle trip to Hubble to do regular maintenance will be cheaper than these very risky, unproven elaborate programs. As far as that goes, what happens if Bush loses the election and the next President disagrees with his plans for NASA? Then several billion dollars will be spent, and many priceless missions canceled, for nothing at all. I'm as much of a fan of a mission to the moon and to Mars, but I believe that NASA should not act on what the President says. Changes in space policy of this magnitude must be approved by Congress, and officially written into law after lengthy public debate. Otherwise we're just chasing our tail like a dog. Bill Clark http://home.austin.rr.com/whcii/ Basically, it's throwing away the Hubble to gain the re-election of a ruthless President. The Hubble images have been stunning, and changed our perception of the Universe completely, inspiring many new cosmological theories. It's a treasure and it's life should be, if anything, extended . When the VLST is in use the Hubble will still be useful and astronomers will still be fighting for time on it. America has achieved few more inspiring successes than the launch and operation of the Hubble Space Telescope. It represents the very best of America. G.Bush; have you seen through him yet? Over here in the UK we certainly hope so. We can't wait for the _good_ Americans to come back and remove him from office. Horatio. |
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Basically, it's throwing away the Hubble to gain the re-election of a
ruthless President. The Hubble images have been stunning, and changed our perception of the Universe completely, inspiring many new cosmological theories. It's a treasure and it's life should be, if anything, extended . When the VLST is in use the Hubble will still be useful and astronomers will still be fighting for time on it. America has achieved few more inspiring successes than the launch and operation of the Hubble Space Telescope. It represents the very best of America. G.Bush; have you seen through him yet? Over here in the UK we certainly hope so. We can't wait for the _good_ Americans to come back and remove him from office. Horatio. I, for one, am hoping and praying that the arrogant, holier-than-thou, asshole gets a painful taste of reality this November and loses! Just one American's opinion. Paul |
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Hubble Economics - modern math?
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:30:23 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away,
"The Ruzicka Family" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: G.Bush; have you seen through him yet? Over here in the UK we certainly hope so. We can't wait for the _good_ Americans to come back and remove him from office. Horatio. I, for one, am hoping and praying that the arrogant, holier-than-thou, asshole Looks like projection to me. |
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Hubble Economics - modern math?
I, for one, am hoping and praying that the arrogant, holier-than-thou, asshole Looks like projection to me. Stop being such a sanctimonious jerk. You may love Bush, but there's no reason to act like him. You do not know me. You do not now my position on most things, nor how I relate to or treat other people. Therefore, you have absolutely no idea whether or not I truly am what I criticize in Bush. Ergo, you're blowing it out of your ass. Why don't we both get back to the task at hand: debating the pros and cons of whether or not Bush has a realistic "vision" for going to Mars. Isn't that what this newsgroup is for? By the way, I heard that one way Bush plans to save money when we get to Mars is to transport the astronauts around Mars by way of rafts on the canals! ;-) |
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Hubble Economics - modern math?
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:47:32 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away,
"The Ruzicka Family" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: I, for one, am hoping and praying that the arrogant, holier-than-thou, asshole Looks like projection to me. Stop being such a sanctimonious jerk. You may love Bush, but there's no reason to act like him. I don't love Bush. You do not know me. Nor, obviously, you me. |
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Hubble Economics - modern math?
"The Ruzicka Family" wrote:
Stop being such a sanctimonious jerk. Then... moments later, you wrote: By the way, I heard that one way Bush plans to save money when we get to Mars is to transport the astronauts around Mars by way of rafts on the canals! ;-) Try getting your information from places other than moveon.org and you'll have more credibility around here. Regards, Roger -- Roger Balettie former Flight Dynamics Officer Space Shuttle Mission Control http://www.balettie.com/ |
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Hubble Economics - modern math?
By the way, I heard that one way Bush plans to save money when we get to Mars is to transport the astronauts around Mars by way of rafts on the canals! ;-) Try getting your information from places other than moveon.org and you'll have more credibility around here. Regards, Roger oh, geez...did I somehow insult you in some way with my little joke? (you did, of course, notice the little smile/wink symbol at the end of it, right? that means it was a joke!) Normally I don't get my "information" from ANY single place. I make sure I get it from multiple reliable sources to make sure I'm not getting fed only slanted or biased information. My guess is that you should try that process yourself someday, rather than rely solely on such pools of wisdom and truth, such as Rush Limbaugh. Sorry, but I digress. I'm really not trying to start any petty little insult war here. It really is interesting how someone can come to this newsgroup, express one single, simple point of view...a personal opinion...and all of a sudden get snide, totally unnecessary comments against them. Really shows how much some people here believe in freedom of expression and individuality. Guess we're all simply supposed to march lockstep with our "betters." |
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Hubble Economics - modern math?
Stop being such a sanctimonious jerk. You may love Bush, but there's no reason to act like him. I don't love Bush. Glad to hear it. Why then do you feel a need to make snide comments to me when I simply express my own personal opinion of the guy? You do not know me. Nor, obviously, you me. You're absolutely correct. I know as much about you as you do about me. That's why I don't go out of my way to make unprovoked dumb-ass comments about you. I'd appreciate the same respect. |
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