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Old June 9th 12, 08:43 PM posted to sci.space.science
Brian Gaff
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It occurred to me the other day that if the universe is expanding faster and
faster, would there not be some wavelengths that now would be larger than
the visible universe? If that is the case one would imagine that would
render them undetectable.

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Old June 15th 12, 06:47 AM posted to sci.space.science
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Jun 9, 12:43 pm, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
It occurred to me the other day that if the universe is expanding faster

and
faster, would there not be some wavelengths that now would be larger than
the visible universe? If that is the case one would imagine that would
render them undetectable.

Brian

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Gravity waves should be extremely long and low frequency.

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Old June 16th 12, 09:40 PM posted to sci.space.science
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Jun 9, 12:43 pm, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
It occurred to me the other day that if the universe is expanding faster

and
faster, would there not be some wavelengths that now would be larger than
the visible universe? If that is the case one would imagine that would
render them undetectable.

Brian

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If given 5e55 kg as the mass of our known universe, and if there were
another equally massive universe, it doesn't take all that much math
to estimate what amount of force should exist between the two.

Gravitational Force Calculator
http://www.calculatoredge.com/chemic...vitational.htm

Even at a center to center distance of 9.46e24 km = 1.863e45 N


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Old July 4th 12, 04:04 AM posted to sci.space.science
Sylvia Else[_2_]
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On 17/06/2012 6:40 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
On Jun 9, 12:43 pm, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
It occurred to me the other day that if the universe is expanding faster

and
faster, would there not be some wavelengths that now would be larger than
the visible universe? If that is the case one would imagine that would
render them undetectable.

Brian

--From the Bed of Brian Gaff.

The email is valid as
Blind user.


If given 5e55 kg as the mass of our known universe, and if there were
another equally massive universe, it doesn't take all that much math
to estimate what amount of force should exist between the two.

Gravitational Force Calculator
http://www.calculatoredge.com/chemic...vitational.htm

Even at a center to center distance of 9.46e24 km =.863e45 N


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Permitted, but we're starting to get into the land of grand speculation. GdM

I think "grand speculation" may understate it. The physical laws as we
understand them, and the constants that they contain, have been derived
from observations of the universe in which we live. There can be no
rationale at all for thinking that the laws apply in other universes, or
between universes, much less that the constants do.

Sylvia.

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Old July 5th 12, 12:18 AM posted to sci.space.science
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default Very long wavelengths

On Jul 3, 8:04 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 17/06/2012 6:40 AM, Brad Guth wrote:







On Jun 9, 12:43 pm, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
It occurred to me the other day that if the universe is expanding fast

er
and
faster, would there not be some wavelengths that now would be larger t

han
the visible universe? If that is the case one would imagine that wo

uld
render them undetectable.


Brian


--From the Bed of Brian Gaff.


The email is valid as
Blind user.


If given 5e55 kg as the mass of our known universe, and if there were
another equally massive universe, it doesn't take all that much math
to estimate what amount of force should exist between the two.


Gravitational Force Calculator
http://www.calculatoredge.com/chemic...vitational.htm


Even at a center to center distance of 9.46e24 km =.863e45 N


==================================== MODERATOR'S COMMENT:
Permitted, but we're starting to get into the land of grand specula

tion. GdM

I think "grand speculation" may understate it. The physical laws as we
understand them, and the constants that they contain, have been derived
from observations of the universe in which we live. There can be no
rationale at all for thinking that the laws apply in other universes, or
between universes, much less that the constants do.

Sylvia.


All observations are subjective, not to mention badly delayed and with
lots of dark matter and dark energy in between us and those
observations. No doubt there's physics we haven't taken into account.

What frequency is a gravity wave supposed to be?

How many gravity waves does matter generate?

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These are questions you can google for yourself Brad. Allowed, but very quickly this discussion is heading to the kill status.

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Old November 11th 13, 06:46 PM posted to sci.space.science
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default Very long wavelengths

On Saturday, June 9, 2012 12:43:50 PM UTC-7, Brian Gaff wrote:
It occurred to me the other day that if the universe is expanding faster and
faster, would there not be some wavelengths that now would be larger than
the visible universe? If that is the case one would imagine that would
render them undetectable.

Brian

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No wavelength is longer than those of gravity.


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Allowed for debate and correction, as gravity waves are suggested to have sub-atomic wavelengths, though none have yet been directly observed.

 




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