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On Aug 27, 2:17 pm, Tom Roberts wrote:
Koobee Wublee wrote: You were claiming that long ago I have claimed this, and will continue to claim it, because a) the experiments DO show that, and b) the Lorentz transform is an essential aspect of SR. Your experimental results also support all the infinite transforms that the null results of the MMX indicate. You have proven nothing about the validity of the Lorentz transform until you prove what the Lorentz transform stands out apart from the rest that is the symmetric mutual time dilation ordeal. shrug until you were pointed out that SR has thoroughly predicted the mutual time dilation due to it satisfying relative simultaneity, and no experiments have definitely shown so this unique prediction of SR. The fact that one particular aspect of SR (mutual time dilation) is not amenable to testing via current technology does not affect the validity of SR, Oh, yes, it does. You cannot say a particular grain of sand has a special property. shrug or its structure. A large number of other aspects of SR are amenable to testing, have been tested, and are KNOWN to be consistent with the predictions of SR -- that is what makes it an excellent model within its domain. All the other infinite transforms that satisfy the null results of the MMX also pass. This does not say the Lorentz transform is the only valid one. shrug You need to learn what science is. Your statements here show a VERY confused and incorrect understanding of science. You are the one who is confused. All the other transforms do not satisfy the principle of relativity. You just happened to pick one that does. It only does after a mathematical mistake by Poincare. Do you see the seriousness in the situation? shrug He sees that your mathematical skill is on par with Michelson’s but no more. It is no wonder that you are left with this confused state as Michelson was. shrug In the meantime, you ought to be arrested for crime against science on spreading lies to promote the religious nature of SR and GR. It is you who spreads lies (e.g. right there above). Hey, you are the one who picks out a particular grain and sand and calls it divine. You refuse to give sound reasons on why you pick that particular grain of sand. shrug There is no "religious nature" of SR or GR, there is just a large body of experimental evidence that they are excellent models of the world we inhabit, within their respective domains. The Christian religion is unique because of the resurrection of the Messiah. Your garbage has no such unique support. shrug That you and many others around here do not understand this does not change the basic fact that SR and GR are excellent models within their domains. They actually do not when one does not religiously believe in them. All you have to do is to prove the very unique property of SR that all the other mathematical models that satisfy the null results of the MMX do not. Once again, that is the symmetric mutual time dilation ordeal. If you can prove this mutual time dilation, I (not He) will be saying hallelujah to SR. In the meantime, He will be asking you to provide the validity of SR as science demands. shrug |
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On Aug 27, 2:20 pm, Tom Roberts wrote:
Koobee Wublee wrote: Mutual time dilation can be tested. Explain how, please. Be specific, and do not require unobtanium or instruments impossible with current technology. Michelson deeply believed in the Aether and successfully came up with ingenious experimentations attempting to prove the existence of the Aether. The null results of the MMX gave confusions. He has no doubt that if Michelson were warned about the confused results, he would have taken up the challenge to prove the validity of known science anyway. shrug Similarly, you are also an experimental physicist who believes in the nonsense of relative simultaneity just because there is no other avenue that your shallow mind can think of. You should be challenging yourself to come up with experimentations to justify your belief just like Michelson did. Instead of Michelson’s conviction, you are afraid of going through and find out what you believe in would be proven wrong. Well, you are not alone. All self-styled physicists face the same dilemma since deep down they knew this is a hopeless endeavor of supporting SR. shrug If you are really interested in proving the validity of this mutual time dilation thingy, you should be the one who is given the life time chance of proving what you believe is valid, but be warned, which you may have already known and expected, that the results would be unpleasant for you. Michelson’s result was a schocker for him, and these null results would cause a major remodeling of physics. You and He just disagree on what the results would be. Now, your result is expected to disprove SR. This would be an unwelcomed awakening just like Shawn Connery’s character in Zardoz (1974) who found out who found out the truth after reading the Wizard of Oz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zardoz |
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On Aug 28, 3:36*am, 1treePetrifiedForestLane
wrote: there is no such a thing as "mutual time dilation," other than both parties accelerating & decelerating as much in the same quantum of time, trivially, relative to the "home planet." ------------------ what is your ''quantum time '' imbecile psycho parrot creep ****en sub mathematician that is unable to deliver others than word salads !!! NEXT Y.Porat -------------------- |
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"Koobee Wublee" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 2:20 pm, Tom Roberts wrote: Koobee Wublee wrote: Mutual time dilation can be tested. Explain how, please. Be specific, and do not require unobtanium or instruments impossible with current technology. Michelson deeply believed in the Aether and successfully came up with ingenious experimentations attempting to prove the existence of the Aether. The null results of the MMX gave confusions. He has no doubt that if Michelson were warned about the confused results, he would have taken up the challenge to prove the validity of known science anyway. shrug ____________________________________ Are you going to answer the question? You claimed there was an experimental test of mutual time dilation which would show it was wrong. When asked to describe it, we get the same crank bull**** as ever. There is no experimental prediction of Relativity which you consider incorrect, and that includes the "Twin Paradox". You don't understand relativity; you don't have an alternate theory, you can't point to a single prediction of SR which you believe incorrect, and you are apparently completely ignorant of both physics and the scientific method. You have nothing to say, which is why your posts say nothing other than you are a crank. HTH Peter Webb SNIP crank rant This would be an unwelcomed awakening just like Shawn Connery’s character in Zardoz (1974) who found out who found out the truth after reading the Wizard of Oz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zardoz ___________________________________ Sorry, had to leave the above bit in. When asked to describe a physics experiment, you talk about a movie you once saw which has nothing to do with physics. This inability to stay on topic is a common sign of a brain injury, and an almost universal indicator of being an internet crank. Have you in fact suffered some form of brain injury, perhaps as a result of trauma or meningitis? |
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"Koobee Wublee" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 2:17 pm, Tom Roberts wrote: Koobee Wublee wrote: You were claiming that long ago I have claimed this, and will continue to claim it, because a) the experiments DO show that, and b) the Lorentz transform is an essential aspect of SR. Your experimental results also support all the infinite transforms that the null results of the MMX indicate. You have proven nothing about the validity of the Lorentz transform until you prove what the Lorentz transform stands out apart from the rest that is the symmetric mutual time dilation ordeal. shrug _____________________________ "Stands out apart"? WTF is that supposed to mean? Why don't you use the correct terms? If your argument is somehow based on the scientific method (and I am struggling to make any sense out of it), could you at least use terms from the scientific method? until you were pointed out that SR has thoroughly predicted the mutual time dilation due to it satisfying relative simultaneity, and no experiments have definitely shown so this unique prediction of SR. The fact that one particular aspect of SR (mutual time dilation) is not amenable to testing via current technology does not affect the validity of SR, Oh, yes, it does. You cannot say a particular grain of sand has a special property. shrug ____________________________________ I don't say one grain of sand has a special property. "Time dilation" occurs equally to all "grains of sand". You are the one who claims that something (some "grain of sand") does not experience time dilation equally. Yet despite repeated urgings, you cannot identify a single prediction of SR which you believe incorrect, or a single experiment which would show (as you so clumsily put it) that some grains have different properties with respect to time dilation. or its structure. A large number of other aspects of SR are amenable to testing, have been tested, and are KNOWN to be consistent with the predictions of SR -- that is what makes it an excellent model within its domain. All the other infinite transforms that satisfy the null results of the MMX also pass. This does not say the Lorentz transform is the only valid one. shrug _____________________________________________ But that isn't your claim. Your claim is that SR is wrong. But you never say how. That is because you don't understand Relativity, and so try to avoid saying anything specific about it which would demonstrate your ignorance. As you know nothing about SR, you don't want to discuss SR, you just want to say it is wrong and then run away and not answer questions. You need to learn what science is. Your statements here show a VERY confused and incorrect understanding of science. You are the one who is confused. All the other transforms do not satisfy the principle of relativity. You just happened to pick one that does. It only does after a mathematical mistake by Poincare. Do you see the seriousness in the situation? shrug _____________________________________ No. How is this supposed to show SR is wrong, exactly? He sees that your mathematical skill is on par with Michelson’s but no more. It is no wonder that you are left with this confused state as Michelson was. shrug ______________________________________ But you know better? OK. here is a cvery simple physics question. Two twins, one travels to a star 10 light years away and back at a constant 0.9c. What are their relative ages when re-united? In the meantime, you ought to be arrested for crime against science on spreading lies to promote the religious nature of SR and GR. It is you who spreads lies (e.g. right there above). Hey, you are the one who picks out a particular grain and sand and calls it divine. You refuse to give sound reasons on why you pick that particular grain of sand. shrug _________________________________ What "grain of sand"? What do you think you are talking about? Nobody else mentioned grains of sand, and nor does the scientific method. You do know that we can't read your mind and determine what grain of sand you are talking about, or even where SR mentions sand. There is no "religious nature" of SR or GR, there is just a large body of experimental evidence that they are excellent models of the world we inhabit, within their respective domains. The Christian religion is unique because of the resurrection of the Messiah. Your garbage has no such unique support. shrug ________________________________________ Crank stuff, when cornered change the subject, you picked religion. Run away, little crank. That you and many others around here do not understand this does not change the basic fact that SR and GR are excellent models within their domains. They actually do not when one does not religiously believe in them. All you have to do is to prove the very unique property of SR that all the other mathematical models that satisfy the null results of the MMX do not. _____________________________________ No, actually the scientific method requires it to correctly predict experimental outcomes, which it does. What you have written above is complete bull****; there is no requirement in the scientific method to disprove alternate theories. Once again, that is the symmetric mutual time dilation ordeal. If you can prove this mutual time dilation, I (not He) will be saying hallelujah to SR. In the meantime, He will be asking you to provide the validity of SR as science demands. shrug ______________________________________ As science demands? You mean that the theory should correctly model experimental results? It obviously does. What demands does 'science" make which SR has not met? What requirement of the "scientific method"? And please, don't try and change the topic to the properties of sand, or a movie you once saw, or any of the many other crank techniques you use to try and avoid questions which show you are wrong. |
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Koobee Wublee wrote:
On Aug 27, 2:17 pm, Tom Roberts wrote: I have claimed this, and will continue to claim it, because a) the experiments DO show that, and b) the Lorentz transform is an essential aspect of SR. Your experimental results also support all the infinite transforms that the null results of the MMX indicate. You have proven nothing about the validity of the Lorentz transform until you prove what the Lorentz transform stands out apart from the rest that is the symmetric mutual time dilation ordeal. As I said, you have a warped and INCORRECT understanding of what science actually is. You also have rather serious flaws in your reading and logic -- I have NEVER claimed that the Lorentz transforms "stand out apart from the rest"; indeed I have often stated that there is an infinite class of theories that are equivalent to SR in that they are experimentally indistinguishable from SR. The fact that one particular aspect of SR (mutual time dilation) is not amenable to testing via current technology does not affect the validity of SR, Oh, yes, it does. No, it doesn't. This is a limitation of current technology, not any sort of "problem" with the theory. A large number of other aspects of SR are amenable to testing, have been tested, and are KNOWN to be consistent with the predictions of SR -- that is what makes it an excellent model within its domain. All the other infinite transforms that satisfy the null results of the MMX also pass. This does not say the Lorentz transform is the only valid one. Sure. I have never disputed that. But all the other transforms that "pass" are EXPERIMENTALLY INDISTINGUISHABLE from the Lorentz transforms. That is, the Lorentz transforms are part of a good model (SR), which is what I have been saying. Your claims that they must be unique are just plain wrong -- that is NOT how science works; nor is it how logic works, if you would read what I write ACCURATELY. Hey, you are the one who picks out a particular grain and sand and calls it divine. You refuse to give sound reasons on why you pick that particular grain of sand. This is just plain not true. You use "grain of sand" to mean one of the theories that are not refuted by the experimental record. I do not consider any of them "divine", I merely point out that all of them except SR have theoretical difficulties: they do not satisfy the PoR, and they are not suitable for generalizing SR to other theories (e.g. GR, QED, and the standard model). Until you learn how to read accurately, and how to apply valid logic, there is no point in continuing. Tom Roberts |
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On Aug 28, 10:01*am, Tom Roberts wrote:
Koobee Wublee wrote: On Aug 27, 2:17 pm, Tom Roberts wrote: I have claimed this, and will continue to claim it, because a) the experiments DO show that, and b) the Lorentz transform is an essential aspect of SR. Your experimental results also support all the infinite transforms that the null results of the MMX indicate. *You have proven nothing about the validity of the Lorentz transform until you prove what the Lorentz transform stands out apart from the rest that is the symmetric mutual time dilation ordeal. As I said, you have a warped and INCORRECT understanding of what science actually is. You also have rather serious flaws in your reading and logic -- I have NEVER claimed that the Lorentz transforms "stand out apart from the rest"; indeed I have often stated that there is an infinite class of theories that are equivalent to SR in that they are experimentally indistinguishable from SR. The fact that one particular aspect of SR (mutual time dilation) is not amenable to testing via current technology does not affect the validity of SR, Oh, yes, it does. No, it doesn't. This is a limitation of current technology, not any sort of "problem" with the theory. A large number of other aspects of SR are amenable to testing, have been tested, and are KNOWN to be consistent with the predictions of SR -- that is what makes it an excellent model within its domain. All the other infinite transforms that satisfy the null results of the MMX also pass. *This does not say the Lorentz transform is the only valid one. Sure. I have never disputed that. But all the other transforms that "pass" are EXPERIMENTALLY INDISTINGUISHABLE from the Lorentz transforms. That is, the Lorentz transforms are part of a good model (SR), which is what I have been saying. Your claims that they must be unique are just plain wrong -- that is NOT how science works; nor is it how logic works, if you would read what I write ACCURATELY. Hey, you are the one who picks out a particular grain and sand and calls it divine. *You refuse to give sound reasons on why you pick that particular grain of sand. This is just plain not true. You use "grain of sand" to mean one of the theories that are not refuted by the experimental record. I do not consider any of them "divine", I merely point out that all of them except SR have theoretical difficulties: they do not satisfy the PoR, and they are not suitable for generalizing SR to other theories (e.g. GR, QED, and the standard model). Until you learn how to read accurately, and how to apply valid logic, there is no point in continuing. Tom Roberts Aether displacement unifies SR, GR, and QM (pilot-wave theory). Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein' http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html "The special theory of relativity forbids us to assume the ether to consist of particles observable through time, but the hypothesis of ether in itself is not in conflict with the special theory of relativity." "It may be added that the whole change in the conception of the ether which the special theory of relativity brought about, consisted in taking away from the ether its last mechanical quality, namely, its immobility." The aether of relativity is mobile. The mobility of the ether is the state of displacement of the ether. The state of the ether as defined by its connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighboring places is the state of displacement of the ether. Watch the following video starting at 0:45 to see the state of displacement of the aether as determined by its connections with the Earth and the state of the aether in neighboring places. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9ITt44-EHE The reason for the results of the Michelson-Morley, Michelson-Gale- Pearson, Sagnac Effect, and all of the other aether experiments is because the state of the aether is the state of displacement of the aether. Wave-particle duality: A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. |
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On Aug 28, 4:41*pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
Tom Roberts wrote: Koobee Wublee wrote: Your experimental results also support all the infinite transforms that thenull resultsof the MMX indicate. *You have proven nothing about the validity of theLorentz transformuntil you prove what the Lorentz transformstands out apart from the rest that is the symmetric mutualtime dilationordeal. As I said, you have a warped and INCORRECT understanding of what science actually is. Only to you. *shrug You also have rather serious flaws in your reading and logic -- I have NEVER claimed that the Lorentz transforms "stand out apart from the rest"; indeed I have often stated that there is an infinite class of theories that are equivalent to SR in that they are experimentally indistinguishable from SR. This is bull****! *If indeed you have come to peace with all the infinite other transforms that would also satisfy thenull resultsof the MMX, you will realize that all these do not support the principle of relativity. *TheLorentz transformis the only that does. *Even the Lorentz transform’s closest one, Larmor’s transform, in general does not satisfy theprinciple of relativityas well. *The only incidence where theLorentz transformis the same as Larmor’s transform is when all these two observers move in parallel relative to the absolute frame of reference. *Anyhow, as someone who has been working in the field for many decades, do you not see the vast difference between something that satisfy theprinciple of relativityand something that does not? It is more likely that you did not know about all these infinite transforms that also satisfy thenull resultsof the MMX until reading His posts. *Again, none of these infinite numbers of transforms supports the principle of relative. *You still are clueless as what the requirements should be to satisfy thenull resultsof the MMX. shrug The fact that one particular aspect of SR (mutualtime dilation) is not amenable to testing via current technology does not affect the validity of SR, Oh, yes, it does. No, it doesn't. This is a limitation of current technology, not any sort of "problem" with the theory. So, the current technology does not allow you to tell if the principle of relativity is valid or not. *How the heck do you believe in the Lorentz transformthat does satisfy theprinciple of relativitywhile all others do not? All the other infinite transforms that satisfy thenull resultsof the MMX also pass. *This does not say theLorentz transformis the only valid one. Sure. I have never disputed that. But all the other transforms that "pass" are EXPERIMENTALLY INDISTINGUISHABLE from the Lorentz transforms. That is, the Lorentz transforms are part of a good model (SR), which is what I have been saying. Your claims that they must be unique are just plain wrong -- that is NOT how science works; nor is it how logic works, if you would read what I write ACCURATELY. Again, only theLorentz transformsatisfies the principle of relativity, and all others do not. *If they are experimentally indistinguishable, why do you say one is valid over the others? *In doing so, you have decided if theprinciple of relativityis valid or not; you have banished the Aether in inny, minny, mighty, mo decision. *Gee! *Do you really think that is how science works? Hey, you are the one who picks out a particular grain and sand and calls it divine. *You refuse to give sound reasons on why you pick that particular grain of sand. This is just plain not true. You use "grain of sand" to mean one of the theories that are not refuted by the experimental record. The Voigt transform does not satisfy theprinciple of relativity. Larmor’s transform does not satisfy theprinciple of relativityin general. *Lorentz’s infinite numbers of transforms do not satisfy the principle of relativity. *They all satisfy thenull resultsof the MMX. *They all exhibit some forms oftime dilation. *Just what do you mean by they are refuted by experiments? I do not consider any of them "divine", I merely point out that all of them except SR have theoretical difficulties: they do not satisfy the PoR, Let’s see. *TheLorentz transformis only valid when the two observers of Larmor’s transform move in parallel relative to the absolute frame of reference. *Only at that incidence, theprinciple of relativity holds. *Otherwise, theprinciple of relativitydoes not hold in general. *shrug and they are not suitable for generalizing SR to other theories (e.g. GR, QED, and the standard model). Just because a hypothesis works better into other conjectures, it does not validate this hypothesis. *This is not how science works. *You need to perform experimentations. *Why all of a sudden, as an experimental physicist, are you suggesting no experimentations are needed to support more hypotheses and more conjectures? Until you learn how to read accurately, and how to apply valid logic, there is no point in continuing. Fine, then. *The record shows you are trying to play God by deciding theprinciple of relativityis valid without any experimentation. Michelson’s work was monumental. *Unfortunately, the man was weak in mathematics. *He never realized he actually had proven the existence of the absolute frame of reference. *It is even more unfortunate for the development of physics. *TheLorentz transformwas created through a mathematical mistake, and the idiots back then did not and still do not realize this mistake. *The mathematics only involves algebra. *The self-styled physicists should be very ashamed. *shrug Koobee Wublee, you have got it right in the fact that Michelson was the first to come up with the evidence of a one-way instantaneous, absolute frame of reference, without actually recognizing it. Remember, Michelson expected to measure a difference. When there was not one, and Michelson beyond any other would have wished there to be one, a null result was discovered. Well, we had already gotten used to the idea of light being c, and something as traveling- we only had ONE explanation that could exist- time dilation and length contraction. If we accept all that is "seen" as having a "speed limit" then everything physically is written in stone and we don't have to think, just plug in the numbers. Finally, I believe that "seeing light" is not dictated by a "speed limit", on the contrary, I believe that "seeing light" is a limited process only by size and distance. |
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On Aug 28, 9:30*pm, John Gogo wrote:
On Aug 28, 4:41*pm, Koobee Wublee wrote: Tom Roberts wrote: Koobee Wublee wrote: Your experimental results also support all the infinite transforms that thenull resultsof the MMX indicate. *You have proven nothing about the validity of theLorentz transformuntil you prove what the Lorentz transformstands out apart from the rest that is the symmetric mutualtime dilationordeal. As I said, you have a warped and INCORRECT understanding of what science actually is. Only to you. *shrug You also have rather serious flaws in your reading and logic -- I have NEVER claimed that theLorentz transforms"stand out apart from the rest"; indeed I have often stated that there is an infinite class of theories that are equivalent to SR in that they are experimentally indistinguishable from SR. This is bull****! *If indeed you have come to peace with all the infinite other transforms that would also satisfy thenull resultsof the MMX, you will realize that all these do not support the principle of relativity. *TheLorentz transformis the only that does. *Even the Lorentz transform’s closest one, Larmor’s transform, in general does not satisfy theprinciple of relativityas well. *The only incidence where theLorentz transformis the same as Larmor’s transform is when all these two observers move in parallel relative to the absolute frame of reference. *Anyhow, as someone who has been working in the field for many decades, do you not see the vast difference between something that satisfy theprinciple of relativityand something that does not? It is more likely that you did not know about all these infinite transforms that also satisfy thenull resultsof the MMX until reading His posts. *Again, none of these infinite numbers of transforms supports the principle of relative. *You still are clueless as what the requirements should be to satisfy thenull resultsof the MMX. shrug The fact that one particular aspect of SR (mutualtime dilation) is not amenable to testing via current technology does not affect the validity of SR, Oh, yes, it does. No, it doesn't. This is a limitation of current technology, not any sort of "problem" with the theory. So, the current technology does not allow you to tell if the principle of relativity is valid or not. *How the heck do you believe in the Lorentz transformthat does satisfy theprinciple of relativitywhile all others do not? All the other infinite transforms that satisfy thenull resultsof the MMX also pass. *This does not say theLorentz transformis the only valid one. Sure. I have never disputed that. But all the other transforms that "pass" are EXPERIMENTALLY INDISTINGUISHABLE from theLorentz transforms. That is, the Lorentz transformsare part of a good model (SR), which is what I have been saying. Your claims that they must be unique are just plain wrong -- that is NOT how science works; nor is it howlogic works, if you would read what I write ACCURATELY. Again, only theLorentz transformsatisfies the principle of relativity, and all others do not. *If they are experimentally indistinguishable, why do you say one is valid over the others? *In doing so, you have decided if theprinciple of relativityis valid or not; you have banished the Aether in inny, minny, mighty, mo decision. *Gee! *Do you really think that is how science works? Hey, you are the one who picks out a particular grain and sand and calls it divine. *You refuse to give sound reasons on why you pick that particular grain of sand. This is just plain not true. You use "grain of sand" to mean one of the theories that are not refuted by the experimental record. The Voigt transform does not satisfy theprinciple of relativity. Larmor’s transform does not satisfy theprinciple of relativityin general. *Lorentz’s infinite numbers of transforms do not satisfy the principle of relativity. *They all satisfy thenull resultsof the MMX. *They all exhibit some forms oftime dilation. *Just what do you mean by they are refuted by experiments? I do not consider any of them "divine", I merely point out that all of them except SR have theoretical difficulties: they do not satisfy the PoR, Let’s see. *TheLorentz transformis only valid when the two observers of Larmor’s transform move in parallel relative to the absolute frame of reference. *Only at that incidence, theprinciple of relativity holds. *Otherwise, theprinciple of relativitydoes not hold in general. *shrug and they are not suitable for generalizing SR to other theories (e.g. GR, QED, and the standard model). Just because a hypothesis works better into other conjectures, it does not validate this hypothesis. *This is not how science works. *You need to perform experimentations. *Why all of a sudden, as an experimental physicist, are you suggesting no experimentations are needed to support more hypotheses and more conjectures? Until you learn how to read accurately, and how to apply valid logic, there is no point in continuing. Fine, then. *The record shows you are trying to play God by deciding theprinciple of relativityis valid without any experimentation. Michelson’s work was monumental. *Unfortunately, the man was weak in mathematics. *He never realized he actually had proven the existence of the absolute frame of reference. *It is even more unfortunate for the development of physics. *TheLorentz transformwas created through a mathematical mistake, and the idiots back then did not and still do not realize this mistake. *The mathematics only involves algebra. *The self-styled physicists should be very ashamed. *shrug Koobee Wublee, you have got it right in the fact that Michelson was the first to come up with the evidence of a one-way instantaneous, absolute frame of reference, without actually recognizing it. Remember, Michelson expected to measure a difference. *When there was not one, and Michelson beyond any other would have wished there to be one, a null result was discovered. Well, we had already gotten used to the idea of light being c, and something as traveling- we only had ONE explanation that could exist-time dilation and length contraction. If we accept all that is "seen" as having a "speed limit" then everything physically is written in stone and we don't have to think, just plug in the numbers. *Finally, I believe that "seeing light" is not dictated by a "speed limit", on the contrary, I believe that "seeing light" is a limited process only by size and distance. Michelson believed in being able to "see" relativity. When there was none, this distressed Michelson to no end. |
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