Ares recovery

Fox News showed a small model of the Ares rockets, and said the crew
compartment was similar to an Apollo capsule.

Will this use parachutes and land in the sea?
How long before it's ready to use?

PowerPost2000 wrote:
Fox News showed a small model of the Ares rockets, and said the crew
compartment was similar to an Apollo capsule.
Will this use parachutes and land in the sea?

I believe they use parachutes but land on land. The Apollo capsule
could do a land landing in an emergency, but that got exciting: if I
remember correctly they tended to roll end over end and crush the RCS
fuel tanks (though the tanks should be empty by that point).

Mark

On 2006-07-01, PowerPost2000 wrote:
Fox News showed a small model of the Ares rockets, and said the crew
compartment was similar to an Apollo capsule.

Will this use parachutes and land in the sea?
How long before it's ready to use?

Note that Ares is only the rocket.

The Crew Exploration Vehicle, that Pork Launcher 1B (Sorry, Ares 1)
will Launch, will be similiar in shape to an Apollo, will touchdown on
land, but with touchdown on water as a contingency.


Iain

On 1 Jul 2006 13:28:19 -0700, "
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PowerPost2000 wrote:
Fox News showed a small model of the Ares rockets, and said the crew
compartment was similar to an Apollo capsule.
Will this use parachutes and land in the sea?

I believe they use parachutes but land on land. The Apollo capsule
could do a land landing in an emergency, but that got exciting: if I
remember correctly they tended to roll end over end and crush the RCS
fuel tanks (though the tanks should be empty by that point).

Mark
wow, where's the landing site? that would take a BIG area to just
drift in and land wherever the wind takes yoiu.

PowerPost2000 wrote:
wow, where's the landing site? that would take a BIG area to just
drift in and land wherever the wind takes yoiu.
Not really. Soyuz has been landing on land for years, and most of the
time the recovery helicopters spot it in the air before it hits the
ground. The US capsules demonstrated similar accuracy in their water
landings. There are contingencies that can put it far away from the
intended spot, but the nominal landing area is no more than a few tens
of km in each direction AFAIK. (The ballistic reentry on Soyuz TMA-1
put it hundreds of km short of the nominal landing point, but where it
landed was the expected zone for a ballistic returns.) There are plenty
of spots in the US where you can do this. ISTR White Sands and Edwards
have been mentioned for the CEV.

On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 22:44:38 GMT, PowerPost2000 wrote:

Fox News showed a small model of the Ares rockets, and said the crew
compartment was similar to an Apollo capsule.

Similar shape, but about half again as large.

Will this use parachutes and land in the sea?

I believe they use parachutes but land on land.
wow, where's the landing site? that would take a BIG area to just
drift in and land wherever the wind takes yoiu.

NASA hasn't chosen a landing site yet (or even particulars about the
landing method... retrorockets or airbags for final decelleration) but
it will be somewhere on the west coast to preclude overflying
population centers a'la Columbia.

Edwards AFB, CA, Nellis AFB, NV, and Dugway Proving Ground, UT are
probably the most likely landing sites.

Brian

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PowerPost2000 wrote:
Fox News showed a small model of the Ares rockets, and said the crew
compartment was similar to an Apollo capsule.
Will this use parachutes and land in the sea?

I believe they use parachutes but land on land. The Apollo capsule
could do a land landing in an emergency, but that got exciting: if I
remember correctly they tended to roll end over end and crush the RCS
fuel tanks (though the tanks should be empty by that point).

In Apollo, I think there was a scenario where the Launch Escape System could
fire either while the rocket was on the pad or a few seconds into the flight
when most of the motion has been vertical and the vehicle really hadn't
gone downrange. The capsule could drift back and land somewhere in
Florida - depending on the wind. I think they installed stronger seat
couches into Apollo to better withstand a land landing - just in case. I
think that was part of the Block II upgrades to the CSM.


JD