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NASA PDF - NACA reprint of 1934 Eugen Sanger rocket plane paper
NACA 1942 reprint of a 1934 Eugen Sanger rocket plane paper:
Recent results in rocket flight technique - December 1934 Sanger, Eugen NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI) NACA-TM-1012 , 19420401 The concept of the effective ejection velocity of a rocket engine is explained and the magnitude of the attainable ejection velocity theoretically and experimentally investigated. Velocities above 3000 meters per second (6700 mph) are actually measured and the possibilities of further increases shown. Accession ID: 93R23325 http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1993094405.pdf Document ID: 19930094405 Updated/Added to NTRS: 2005-02-14 Rusty |
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Rusty wrote: NACA 1942 reprint of a 1934 Eugen Sanger rocket plane paper: Does NASA have Sanger's wartime "Rocket Drive for Long Range Bombers" report online by any chance? His rocket motor design for the Antipodal Bomber is really fascinating, as its propellant feed system consists of a steam-driven turbine that is bootstrapped into the combustion chamber/engine bell cooling system. Pat |
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In message , Pat Flannery
writes Rusty wrote: NACA 1942 reprint of a 1934 Eugen Sanger rocket plane paper: Does NASA have Sanger's wartime "Rocket Drive for Long Range Bombers" report online by any chance? His rocket motor design for the Antipodal Bomber is really fascinating, as its propellant feed system consists of a steam-driven turbine that is bootstrapped into the combustion chamber/engine bell cooling system. In his "Interplanetary Flight" (1947) Arthur Clarke notes that Sanger's report was "restricted, until very recently, despite the fact that the British, Americans, French and Russians each possess a copy. One wonders just who was keeping it secret from whom". -- Remove spam and invalid from address to reply. |
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:14:30 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote: Rusty wrote: NACA 1942 reprint of a 1934 Eugen Sanger rocket plane paper: Does NASA have Sanger's wartime "Rocket Drive for Long Range Bombers" report online by any chance? His rocket motor design for the Antipodal Bomber is really fascinating, as its propellant feed system consists of a steam-driven turbine that is bootstrapped into the combustion chamber/engine bell cooling system. Pat Doing a search by author, there are a few articles by Eugen Sanger, but not that one. Rusty |
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Rusty wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:14:30 -0500, Pat Flannery wrote: Rusty wrote: NACA 1942 reprint of a 1934 Eugen Sanger rocket plane paper: Does NASA have Sanger's wartime "Rocket Drive for Long Range Bombers" report online by any chance? His rocket motor design for the Antipodal Bomber is really fascinating, as its propellant feed system consists of a steam-driven turbine that is bootstrapped into the combustion chamber/engine bell cooling system. Pat Doing a search by author, there are a few articles by Eugen Sanger, but not that one. Check this out: http://www.up-ship.com/apr/current.htm -- "The only thing that galls me about someone burning the American flag is how unoriginal it is. I mean if you're going to pull the Freedom-of-speech card, don't be a hack, come up with something interesting. Fashion Old Glory into a wisecracking puppet and blister the system with a scathing ventriloquism act, or better yet, drape the flag over your head and desecrate it with a large caliber bullet hole." Dennis Miller |
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"Rusty" wrote in message ... On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:14:30 -0500, Pat Flannery wrote: Rusty wrote: NACA 1942 reprint of a 1934 Eugen Sanger rocket plane paper: Does NASA have Sanger's wartime "Rocket Drive for Long Range Bombers" report online by any chance? His rocket motor design for the Antipodal Bomber is really fascinating, as its propellant feed system consists of a steam-driven turbine that is bootstrapped into the combustion chamber/engine bell cooling system. Pat Doing a search by author, there are a few articles by Eugen Sanger, but not that one. Rusty "A Rocket Drive for Long Range Bombers" was translated and published by the Navy. Translation CGD-32, Technical Information Branch, BUAER Navy Department. It was reprinted and sold - I got a copy in the late 60's(?). The first page on my copy is titled A Note by the Publisher, and shows at the bottom of the page: Robert Cornog Santa Barbara, California 16 November 1952 A copy like this went for a pretty penny on Ebay several weeks ago. --- Bill |
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"Rusty" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:14:30 -0500, Pat Flannery wrote: Rusty wrote: NACA 1942 reprint of a 1934 Eugen Sanger rocket plane paper: Does NASA have Sanger's wartime "Rocket Drive for Long Range Bombers" report online by any chance? His rocket motor design for the Antipodal Bomber is really fascinating, as its propellant feed system consists of a steam-driven turbine that is bootstrapped into the combustion chamber/engine bell cooling system. Pat Doing a search by author, there are a few articles by Eugen Sanger, but not that one. Rusty "A Rocket Drive for Long Range Bombers" was translated and published by the Navy. Translation CGD-32, Technical Information Branch, BUAER Navy Department. It was reprinted and sold - I got a copy in the late 60's(?). The first page on my copy is titled A Note by the Publisher, and shows at the bottom of the page: Robert Cornog Santa Barbara, California 16 November 1952 A copy like this went for a pretty penny on Ebay several weeks ago. And a copy can be had for pennies if one has a library card and a nearby photocopier. That's how I got *mine*. -- "The only thing that galls me about someone burning the American flag is how unoriginal it is. I mean if you're going to pull the Freedom-of-speech card, don't be a hack, come up with something interesting. Fashion Old Glory into a wisecracking puppet and blister the system with a scathing ventriloquism act, or better yet, drape the flag over your head and desecrate it with a large caliber bullet hole." Dennis Miller |
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Jonathan Silverlight wrote: In his "Interplanetary Flight" (1947) Arthur Clarke notes that Sanger's report was "restricted, until very recently, despite the fact that the British, Americans, French and Russians each possess a copy. One wonders just who was keeping it secret from whom". I've read it; I got a copy of it on interlibrary loan from Wright-Patterson AFB. It's an interesting and very forward looking report; however the chances that Germany could have gotten it working during the war are nil. It would have been difficult to get a horizontal sled launched transatmospheric vehicle working by 1965, much less 1945. One very interesting thing in the report is Sanger's computations on what would happen with bombs hitting a target while traveling at hypersonic horizontal speeds. According to him, the area of blast damage would take on an odd teardrop shape with the impact point being at the point of the teardrop, due to the fact that the explosives creating the blast would be traveling sideways at a higher rate than the expansion rate of the gases generated by their detonation. Then there's the pictures of shooting the rifle bullet around the circular trough lubricated with grease to see how to build the launch track. The Antipodal Bomber project got nowhere near the money or effort thrown at it that the V-1 and V-2 did, although there is a surviving photo of a mysterious "something" at Lofer that could possibly be the nose of an Antipodal Bomber mock-up: http://www.project1947.com/gfb/antiplofer2.jpg Pat |
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Rusty wrote: Doing a search by author, there are a few articles by Eugen Sanger, but not that one. They really should do a pdf of that one- that's where the whole Bomi, Robo, Brass Bell, and Dyna-Soar concepts get started at. And that horizontal launch track concept still keeps coming up, right up till the present day. Pat |
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Scott Lowther wrote: Check this out: http://www.up-ship.com/apr/current.htm In case anyone's wondering, his drawing is accurate; the Antipodal Bomber was indeed designed as a tail-dragger, although most modern drawings show it with nose gear. Pat |
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