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Old March 18th 14, 02:02 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Gravitational Waves from Big Bang Detected

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Physicists have found a long-predicted twist in light from the Big Bang that represents the first image of ripples in the universe called gravitational waves, researchers announced today. The finding is direct proof of the theory of inflation, the idea that the universe expanded extremely quickly in the first fraction of a second after it was born. What's more, the signal is coming through much more strongly than expected, ruling out a large class of inflation models and potentially pointing the way toward new theories of physics, experts say.

"This is huge," says Marc Kamionkowski of Johns Hopkins University, who was not involved in the discovery but who predicted back in 1997 how these gravitational wave imprints could be found. "It's not every day that you wake up and find out something completely new about the early universe. To me this is as Nobel Prize-worthy as it gets."
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Gravitational Waves from Big Bang Detected

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Physicists have found a long-predicted twist in light from the Big Bang that
represents the first image of ripples in the universe called gravitational
waves, researchers announced today. The finding is direct proof of the
theory of inflation, the idea that the universe expanded extremely quickly
in the first fraction of a second after it was born. What's more, the signal
is coming through much more strongly than expected, ruling out a large class
of inflation models and potentially pointing the way toward new theories of
physics, experts say.

"This is huge," says Marc Kamionkowski of Johns Hopkins University, who was
not involved in the discovery but who predicted back in 1997 how these
gravitational wave imprints could be found. "It's not every day that you
wake up and find out something completely new about the early universe. To
me this is as Nobel Prize-worthy as it gets."
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Unless the light from the Great Bonk is reflected in a mirror and coming
back to us it is quite impossible for anyone to see it. It is long past the
time when Marc Kamionkowski of Johns Hopkins University and his ilk were
prosecuted for fraud.

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway


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Old March 19th 14, 04:22 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 6:03:20 AM UTC-6, Lord Androcles wrote:

Unless the light from the Great Bonk is reflected in a mirror and coming
back to us it is quite impossible for anyone to see it.


This is true enough; I can't see any light with a wavelength much longer than 700 nm, and so microwave radiation at a temperature of 4.2 Kelvins is quite outside my visual range.

John Savard
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"Quadibloc" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 6:03:20 AM UTC-6, Lord Androcles wrote:

Unless the light from the Great Bonk is reflected in a mirror and coming
back to us it is quite impossible for anyone to see it.


This is true enough; I can't see any light with a wavelength much longer
than 700 nm, and so microwave radiation at a temperature of 4.2 Kelvins is
quite outside my visual range.

John Savard
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Irrelevant. Any light from the mythical bang is going away from us, we were
at the centre of the mythical bang when the mythical bang happened. You
can't see sunlight at night unless it is reflected from a moon or planet,
you are facing the wrong way. If you want to see the big bonk, turn around
and look at it. Oops, no bonk there, just a smooth even glow. The big bonk
is well within your fairy tail range.

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

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On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 2:02:42 AM UTC, wrote:
Gravitational Waves from Big Bang Detected



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Physicists have found a long-predicted twist in light from the Big Bang that represents the first image of ripples in the universe called gravitational waves, researchers announced today. The finding is direct proof of the theory of inflation, the idea that the universe expanded extremely quickly in the first fraction of a second after it was born. What's more, the signal is coming through much more strongly than expected, ruling out a large class of inflation models and potentially pointing the way toward new theories of physics, experts say.



"This is huge," says Marc Kamionkowski of Johns Hopkins University, who was not involved in the discovery but who predicted back in 1997 how these gravitational wave imprints could be found. "It's not every day that you wake up and find out something completely new about the early universe. To me this is as Nobel Prize-worthy as it gets."


Basically self-inflicted intellectual harm on a global scale with few around to make a dent in this assault on astronomy.
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Old March 19th 14, 02:09 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:27:50 AM UTC-6, Lord Androcles wrote:
Any light from the mythical bang is going away from us, we were
at the centre of the mythical bang when the mythical bang happened. You
can't see sunlight at night unless it is reflected from a moon or planet,
you are facing the wrong way.


I realize that was your point, but you know that science says you're wrong because in the case of the Big Bang, the light went all the way around the Universe and then came back to us going the other way.

Of course, that should not now be possible if the Universe expands faster than light due to cosmic inflation, but I'm sure they have a good explanation.

Such as every other part of the Universe *also* being "at the centre of the mythical bang".

John Savard
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Old March 19th 14, 06:37 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"Quadibloc" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:27:50 AM UTC-6, Lord Androcles wrote:
Any light from the mythical bang is going away from us, we were
at the centre of the mythical bang when the mythical bang happened. You
can't see sunlight at night unless it is reflected from a moon or planet,
you are facing the wrong way.


I realize that was your point, but you know that science says you're wrong
because in the case of the Big Bang, the light went all the way around the
Universe and then came back to us going the other way.

Of course, that should not now be possible if the Universe expands faster
than light due to cosmic inflation, but I'm sure they have a good
explanation.

Such as every other part of the Universe *also* being "at the centre of the
mythical bang".

John Savard
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Science:
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noun
1.
the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of
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"the world of science and technology"

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a. The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation,
and theoretical explanation of phenomena.


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noun
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the faculty or activity of imagining impossible or improbable things.
"his researches had moved into the realms of fantasy"
synonyms: imagination, creativity, fancy, invention, originality, vision,
speculation, make-believe, daydreaming, reverie More
antonyms: truth, realism
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which reflects their conscious or unconscious wishes.
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synonyms: myth, legend, fable, fairy tale, romance; More
antonyms: realism

Savard's fantasy: "the light went all the way around the Universe and then
came back to us going the other way."

Please supply the observation, identification, description, experimental
investigation, and theoretical explanation of the 2pi * 14.8 billion light
year path of this pitiful circular light phenomenon.

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

 




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