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Old July 8th 11, 08:09 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.physics,sci.astro
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On Jul 8, 8:56*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 7/8/11 1:44 PM, oriel36 wrote:

Long sentence there but that is all I can manage,there are that many
surface clues and especially the two largest on the planet to the
internal mechanism of daily rotation that it is harder to ignore it
than discuss it yet if I could find an individual who can state that
the Earth turns its 24901 mile circumference in 24 hours I would be
happy as it removes the need for external references for rotation and
allows the rotation of the surface crust to diverge from the uneven
rotational gradient beneath it.


* *It is *measured* that there are 366.242199 rotations of the
* *earth per astronomical year. Observable fact, Gerald! Two sticks
* *sighting a star on successive nights is in exact agreement with
* *laser gyros, Foucault pendulum an all other measures of the earth's
* *rotation.


I would say people who actually value life and that the darkness of
night or the daily temperature fluctuations come from the rotation of
the Earth with Mar 1st 2008 until Feb 29th 2012 representing 4 years
and 4 orbital circuits of the Earth corresponding to 1461 days and
1461 rotations which of course breaks down to 365 1/4 rotations per
year.

In geological terms,and geologists are supposed to value the geometry
and geography of the Earth and may yet value its rotation,the ideology
of a stationary Earth 'convection cell' mechanism does not tally with
the planet;'s spherical deviation whereas differential rotation can
account for the uneven spherical shape of the Earth organized around
its rotational characteristics with special attention that the power
needed to generate a planetary spherical deviation is many,many
magnitudes great than needed to cause the crust to evolve and move.

There is external planetary comparisons such as our neighbor Venus
which has no crustal dynamics,no spherical deviation and little or no
rotation yet has volcanism but these are all clues that I collected
many years ago and deserve more attention.

I don't care if you like the geological effects of the rotation of the
fluid interior or not,I regard it as having the highest probability of
explaining so many things but it ain't going to happen in a world that
can't figure out what Feb 29th does in closing out the proportion of
rotations for 4 orbital circuits with the value close to 1461
rotations and Not 1465 rotations as believed by empiricists.






* *Gerald, your rants, based on your lack of science and math education
* *is not appreciated!


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Old July 9th 11, 03:00 AM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.physics,sci.astro
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oriel36 wrote in news:aa8a58b8-206a-4165-8b6e-
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Sorry....


So you are unwilling to support your claims?

Typical net crank.

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Old July 9th 11, 09:45 AM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.physics,sci.astro
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It is no great leap from planetary shape to crustal dynamics using a
common rotational mechanism and perhaps in an era with less nuisances
a discussion would be possible . I am old fashioned and live by
standards where men con't have to scowl and sound dour as a mark of
authority,in fact the opposite,like all those pilots who reassure
passengers while dealing with highly complex situations and
conditions,a genuine scientist acts like a gentleman and deals with
the technical issues as though they had priority rather than how it
affects or offends current ideologies.

I am not even bothered that the rotational mechanism is already being
inserted instead of the stationary Earth 'convection cells' mechanism
for crustal motion,anyone can assume that rotation is involved but
what they may not be able to do is exempt the spherical deviation of
the Earth from evolutionary geological principles attached to crustal
evolution/motion.There is no need to drag people kicking and screaming
towards differential rotation as it is already observed in exposed
rotating fluid compositions such as solar plasma,gas giants and most
certainly applies to fluid compositions such as found beneath the thin
fractured surface crust.

The neatest detail apart from linking planetary shape with crustal
motion is the actual details of symmetrical generation of crust off
the Mid Atlantic Ridge or rather the outlines of a lag/advance
mechanism arising from an uneven rotational gradient as a trait of
differential rotation or fluid dynamics but again,it is not something
you shove down somebody's throat as happens with the dull and the
dour,more like a dawning of a realization that something works better
one way than another even if a person is momentary stung by the loss
of personal opinions.

In short,I look forward to being outdone in a competitive way but so
far that hasn't happened.

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Old July 26th 11, 12:35 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.physics,sci.astro
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On Jul 5, 2:24*pm, "CENTRINO" wrote:
The explanation is easy:

Densest elements are in the nucleus of the Earth, Uranium, for example, and
it is continuously decaying, turning mass into the energy observed in the
inner parts of the planet.

E=mC2, means that earth is continuously loosing mass and turning it into
energy, hence the less mass means the less gravity, so the earth is behaving
like a sponge in your hand ... (gravity is your hand). It is expanding.

It would be interesting to calculate how many tons per second of mass is
continuously loosing the Earth due to nuclear reactions and then calculate
the defects on gravity in the millions of years of planet life.

Also, it would be interesting to tray to explain the universal expansion due
to nuclear reactions and the subsequent decaying of mass and then gravity..

The big bang, when nuclear processes were significant.


Just prior to when they weren't do you mean?

Radio active elements are created from non radio active ones under
extreme chemical or physical stress. They naturally return to their
original form giving off the energy it took to create them.

Take a look at the elements present at the sites where they mine
uranium etc., and ponder the what must have happeneds. Don't waste
your time believing things just because others do.

And more importantly: Don't rationalise whenever thinking about such
things makes you think.

Two more things you might want to consider:

Top posting.
Thoughts (such as they are when expressed in a thread that one or two
idiots are nursing) tend to gwet lost in the mix where top posting
occurs.

Thread nurses.
Avoid such posts and posters. Everyone of them (except me) is usually
wrong or unable to think clearly. You end up abusing one another.
Which is fun if at least one of the parties is witty. But it is
ultimately pointless.
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Old July 26th 11, 01:53 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.physics,sci.astro
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"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
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Two more things you might want to consider:

Top posting.
Thoughts (such as they are when expressed in a thread that one or two
idiots are nursing) tend to gwet lost in the mix where top posting
occurs.

Thread nurses.
Avoid such posts and posters. Everyone of them (except me) is usually
wrong or unable to think clearly. You end up abusing one another.
Which is fun if at least one of the parties is witty. But it is
ultimately pointless.
=================================================

Don't be silly. Everyone of them except *me* is usually wrong or unable
to think clearly. Everything is ultimately pointless, everyone dies, so
clearly
*YOU* are not thinking at all.


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Old July 26th 11, 02:21 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default Observational evidence that the earth is undergoing an expansion

On 7/26/11 6:35 AM, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Radio active elements are created from non radio active ones under
extreme chemical or physical stress. They naturally return to their
original form giving off the energy it took to create them.


Elements, including those that are radioactive were created in
the cores of massive stars (fusion) or in supernovae explosions.

There are other possibilities, such as carbon-14 created from
nitrogen in cosmic ray showers. Carbon-14 is produced in the
upper layers of the troposphere and the stratosphere by thermal
neutrons absorbed by nitrogen atoms. When cosmic rays enter the
atmosphere, they undergo various transformations, including the
production of neutrons. The resulting neutrons (1n) participate
in the following reaction:

1n + 14N → 14C + 1p

The highest rate of carbon-14 production takes place at altitudes
of 9 to 15 km (30,000 to 50,000 ft) and at high geomagnetic
latitudes, but the carbon-14 readily mixes and becomes evenly
distributed throughout the atmosphere and reacts with oxygen to
form radioactive carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide also dissolves
in water and thus permeates the oceans.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-14




 




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