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Questions about the inverse square law and dark matter
Gustavo Broos wrote in news:f6b186f9-5c8e-4f41-b82a-
: [snip all] I think we can all agree you don't know what the hell you are talking about. |
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Questions about the inverse square law and dark matter
On 19 juil, 00:42, eric gisse wrote:
Gustavo Broos wrote in news:f6b186f9-5c8e-4f41-b82a- : [snip all] I think we can all agree you don't know what the hell you are talking about. What I'm saying about the CMB is that what we see is the projection of a more complex 3D structure, now if it is not I would like to know the explanation. The recombination and last scattering happened in 3D space, didn't it? So we count the amount of electromagnetic radiation coming from the CMB in each point of the sky (approximated to pixels), but that being the projection of a more complex structure in 3D, how is each point compensated for radiation coming from different depths in the z axis? Now imagine that our unit to measure radiation in the sky is one pixel in our measurement apparatus. If a cube of matter generating CMB radiation goes back in the z axis, at first we will have our measuring unit registering always the same brightness (if there is no extinction, for simplicity). Far enough, it will project to an area smaller than our measuring unit, registering less brightness than before. So the point is: how do we compensate for that? Imagine we have different sized cubes of CMB-generating matter for our measuring pixel, and we play sending them back different distances, how do you know how much matter you've got? P.S. In my second post I said that the "excess term" ("3D metric" in the original post) tends to zero if the patch in the sky being detected tends to a point, but that is not true for the z axis component of the term (and it could be of greater order of magnitude than the "normal" inverse square law term, if what we measure goes deep back in the z axis). The CMB is very isotropic, so the equations may be a good approximation to a possible "measurement interpretation error", which is the point of the original post. Now let me go wild again and ask if the "excess term", in the original post, applied to the CMB radiation could mean something about how deep what we measure is? |
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Questions about the inverse square law and dark matter
Dear Gustavo Broos:
On Jul 19, 2:23*am, Gustavo Broos wrote: On 19 juil, 00:42, eric gisse wrote: Gustavo Broos wrote in news:f6b186f9-5c8e-4f41-b82a- : [snip all] I think we can all agree you don't know what the hell you are talking about. What I'm saying about the CMB is that what we see is the projection of a more complex 3D structure, Based on what crystal ball? You are making assumptions based on a cosmological model not in evidence. now if it is not I would like to know the explanation. A Universe filling "cloud" of opaque hydrogen plasma, with an extinction coefficient of about 3 parsecs (if I recall George Dishman's calculations correctly). Roughly meaning we cannot see more than 15 or so parsecs into it, unless a supernovae is involved (which observation would require much finer resolution than what we've had so far. The recombination and last scattering happened in 3D space, didn't it? It has appeared, and will appear to each point in the Universe, as a "sheet" or "curtain" at a fixed radius. This represents an "instant" in time, after which recombination terminated the release of light, and the medium changing state to transparency in optical and near optical wavelengths. We think you need to tell us what you'd be looking for, when the instruments that can see the CMBR, could not resolve the Mily Way galaxy, and might even miss the Virgo supercluster. "Here Be Dragons" is already taken... David A. Smith |
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