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USA Today (Oberg): “Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visit asteroid”
USA Today (Oberg): “Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visit asteroid”
USA Today, Jan 14, 2004 http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...14-oberg_x.htm By James Oberg The moon race of the 1960s was fueled by national anxiety about what the world would become if the Soviet Union grabbed a permanent lead in space exploration. So President Kennedy set a vision for the USA to reach the moon first. etc |
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USA Today (Oberg): "Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visit asteroid"
"JimO" wrote in message ... USA Today (Oberg): "Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visit asteroid" Asteroid? That'll never happen. A moon has much more clout than some rock flying through space, even if it's more challenging. It's a psychological kind of thing. |
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USA Today (Oberg): “Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visit asteroid”
JimO wrote: http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...14-oberg_x.htm By James Oberg I want USA Today to publish this on their front page. -- Hop David http://clowder.net/hop/index.html |
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USA Today (Oberg): "Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visitasteroid"
Dr. O wrote: "JimO" wrote in message ... USA Today (Oberg): "Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visit asteroid" Asteroid? That'll never happen. A moon has much more clout than some rock flying through space, even if it's more challenging. It's a psychological kind of thing. Asteroid impact is a threat. This has some psychological leverage. The asteroids also have better mineral resources. The ones I find most interesting are possible volatiles: water, ammonia, & hydrocarbons. The man on the street may be impressed that there are metallic asteroids with high grade iron, nickel, copper, silver, gold and platinum ore. An effective asteroid sales pitch could be made to the public. -- Hop David http://clowder.net/hop/index.html |
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USA Today (Oberg): "Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visit asteroid"
"Dr. O" dr.o@xxxxx writes:
"JimO" wrote in message ... USA Today (Oberg): "Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visit asteroid" Asteroid? That'll never happen. A moon has much more clout than some rock flying through space, even if it's more challenging. It's a psychological kind of thing. Actually, an asteroid mission would fit well in the Moon/Mars plan. After doing lunar missions and before a Mars mission, an asteroid mission would give you the chance to test many of the systems needed for Mars, but without the huge Mars gravity well. Visiting Martian moons is a possibility too, since they look to be captured asteroids. You have to deal with the gravity well of Mars, in that you have to enter and leave Mars orbit, but the lander itself doesn't have to directly deal with the gravity well. For either of the above missions, you'd use your Mars transport, but could use your proven Moon lander for the asteroid or Martian moon landing. Jeff -- Remove "no" and "spam" from email address to reply. If it says "This is not spam!", it's surely a lie. |
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USA Today (Oberg): "Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visit asteroid"
The best asteroids for such missions are called Phobos and Deimos.
Hop David wrote in message ... Dr. O wrote: "JimO" wrote in message ... USA Today (Oberg): "Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visit asteroid" Asteroid? That'll never happen. A moon has much more clout than some rock flying through space, even if it's more challenging. It's a psychological kind of thing. Asteroid impact is a threat. This has some psychological leverage. The asteroids also have better mineral resources. The ones I find most interesting are possible volatiles: water, ammonia, & hydrocarbons. The man on the street may be impressed that there are metallic asteroids with high grade iron, nickel, copper, silver, gold and platinum ore. An effective asteroid sales pitch could be made to the public. |
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USA Today (Oberg): “Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visit asteroid”
"Hop David" wrote JimO wrote: http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...14-oberg_x.htm By James Oberg I want USA Today to publish this on their front page. Hear, hear. What I'm about to say is heresy in much of the space advocacy community, but I think asteroids have more to do with our future in space than does Mars. -- Regards, Mike Combs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- We should ask, critically and with appeal to the numbers, whether the best site for a growing advancing industrial society is Earth, the Moon, Mars, some other planet, or somewhere else entirely. Surprisingly, the answer will be inescapable - the best site is "somewhere else entirely." Gerard O'Neill - "The High Frontier" |
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USA Today (Oberg): "Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visit asteroid"
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(Explorer8939) wrote: The best asteroids for such missions are called Phobos and Deimos. Not at all; the delta-V to those is huge compared to any number of NEAs. Cheers, - Joe ,------------------------------------------------------------------. | Joseph J. Strout Check out the Mac Web Directory: | | http://www.macwebdir.com | `------------------------------------------------------------------' |
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USA Today (Oberg): "Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visitasteroid"
Joe Strout wrote: In article , (Explorer8939) wrote: The best asteroids for such missions are called Phobos and Deimos. Not at all; the delta-V to those is huge compared to any number of NEAs. Cheers, - Joe ,------------------------------------------------------------------. | Joseph J. Strout Check out the Mac Web Directory: | | http://www.macwebdir.com | `------------------------------------------------------------------' Much of the velocity matching can be achieved via Martian aerobraking. So delta V wise they're near the top of the list. There have been some hints suggesting water within the Martian moons. But we don't really know. That's why I advocate a fleet of prospector probes to determine what resources are within easy reach. Phobos and Deimos should be checked out as well as Nereus, 1979 VA. These are my favorite asteroids: http://clowder.net/hop/railroad/1_5/1_5.html (these asteroids have a 1.5 year period. There are also 1_33 and 1_25 pages. some of the 1.25 year asteroids have a very low delta v.) -- Hop David http://clowder.net/hop/index.html |
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USA Today (Oberg): “Think outside moon-Mars box: Maybe visit asteroid”
Hear, hear. What I'm about to say is heresy in much of the space advocacy community, but I think asteroids have more to do with our future in space than does Mars. Agreed, but some nice asteroid missions are complimentary to moon ones. The sad thing is I doubt bush is serious This is all smoke and mirrors to get votes, and the only thing we MIGHT get is a retired shuttle and operhaps a capsule launcher. Both good but moon and mars, its dreaming.... |
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