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Russian supply scow lost on way to money pit in orbit
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 10:26:31 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
wsnell01 wrote: On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 5:07:58 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: The breakeven period is too long, opportunity costs too high, tenants around here tend to steal equipment. Tenants steal solar power panels? What sort of hell-hole do you live in? Tenants have been known to take appliances, light fixtures, plumbing, etc., with them when moving out. It's just a matter of time before solar panels are next on their shopping list. http://www.solarpanelsuk.co.uk/news/...eft-from-roof/ Any company on an industrial estate which doesn't have cctv and alarms is stupid. The thieves would probably take those too. |
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Russian supply scow lost on way to money pit in orbit
On Monday, 4 May 2015 16:34:14 UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 3:21:27 PM UTC-5, Mike Collins wrote: Uncarollo2 wrote: On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 1:30:58 PM UTC-5, Mike Collins wrote: wrote: On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 4:36:56 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 asked: Why do you travel on airplanes? Because I can't get to my destination without one. As a minor consideration I've never been convinced by the global warming caused by aircraft. The 9/11 ban on flights led to a global increase in temperature due to lack of contrails. The net increase over time may still be positive but the short term effects of flight seem to be cooling. But that's only a minor consideration. I live in the 21st century and am not giving up the lifestyle my ancestors suffered to achieve so that selfish American contras can ruin it anyway. You could do with a bit more foreign travel to broaden your outlook. You seem to suffer from the not-invented-here syndrome. Look it up if you've not heard of it. My outlook is far broader than yours. Maybe you should sit down and attempt to recognize and understand what a hypocrite you are. Why do you own/drive a car? To get to my destination. To visit my family. Let's try this question since your reading comprehension is so incredibly poor: If you think that AGW is such a disaster why are you driving cars and flying around in planes, when most people on this planet do neither, and have markedly lower CO2 footprints as a result? Try to follow this. Comprehension is not your strong point. From the evidence available AGW is very likely. To make any appreciable change the worst polluters need to take action. China has done so. Europe has done so. The US is the worst CO2 polluter and is full of cranks who believe the propaganda of the contras. Politicians who can follow the science are increasingly being forced to take the contra view even if their personal opinion is sensible to avoid blacklists at election time. I use as little energy as possible whilst still leading the life I want. But I'm not giving up the 21st century life just so that your gullible or selfish countrymen can burn away even more of the world's resources. I was convinced as a teenager working in a chest hospital that smoking caused cancer and bronchitis when patients suffering from these diseases tried to bribe me to smuggle cigarettes to them. I tried to convince people of the danger of cigarettes and succeeded, at least with my family, in preventing them from smoking. If I had been a smoker who gave up the impact on the smoking death figures would have not been noticed. It takes a concerted effort by a society to deal with such problems. If I sat at home using no gas, electricity of fuel there would be no measurable impact on global warming. If I can persuade people like you the impact will be much greater. Mike, you don't seem to understand the mind of a conservative. They are motivated by fear, and that's what their politicians do - fear mongering. I can't think of anything that liberals are really afraid of that isn't based in scientific fact. And we're not really afraid in quite the same way. Fear is really the domain of the American Conservative. They thrive on it. Absolutely everything scares them: Conservatives are also the ones who were terrified of full-scale war withsocialism, Islam, illegal immigrants, science, Ebola, homosexuality, unmarried women, pregnant teenagers, marijuana, foreign languages (especially French), black males between the age of 11 and 65, "home intruders," Big Government, "tyranny," Mexico, Venezuela, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kenya, Somalia, Russia, China, Iran, California, New York City, foreign energy dependence, the absence or the idea of the absence of firearms, Al Gore, Elizabeth Warren, and NPR. the Soviets. Why do you think Reagan built enough nukular missiles to blow up the entire world 50 times over? Everything they say or do is driven by an overactive, overdeveloped "fight-or-flight" response. As Frank Zappa might have said, "It's a way of life." You have to believe that we are all human and can agree to differ. The alternative is "5 steps to tyranny" http://youtu.be/PeBisBQblFM Certainly we can agree to differ, but my life isn't directed by what these guys fear. I don't fear: science, socialism, Islam, illegal immigrants, science, Ebola, homosexuality, unmarried women, science, pregnant teenagers, marijuana, foreign languages (especially French), black males between the age of 11 and 65, science, "home intruders," Big Government, "tyranny," Mexico, Venezuela, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kenya, Somalia, Russia, China, Iran, California, New York City, science, foreign energy dependence, the absence or the idea of the absence of firearms, Al Gore, Elizabeth Warren, and NPR. Of course not. You're an ivory-tower liberal who has never feared this stuff because you've never had to FACE it. Now go to Starbucks, order a latte and pretend you know how the world works. |
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Russian supply scow lost on way to money pit in orbit
On Monday, 4 May 2015 16:30:52 UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 3:05:25 PM UTC-5, palsing wrote: On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 11:30:58 AM UTC-7, Mike Collins wrote: Try to follow this. Comprehension is not your strong point. From the evidence available AGW is very likely. To make any appreciable change the worst polluters need to take action. China has done so. Europe has done so. The US is the worst CO2 polluter and is full of cranks who believe the propaganda of the contras. Politicians who can follow the science are increasingly being forced to take the contra view even if their personal opinion is sensible to avoid blacklists at election time. I use as little energy as possible whilst still leading the life I want. But I'm not giving up the 21st century life just so that your gullible or selfish countrymen can burn away even more of the world's resources. I was convinced as a teenager working in a chest hospital that smoking caused cancer and bronchitis when patients suffering from these diseases tried to bribe me to smuggle cigarettes to them. I tried to convince people of the danger of cigarettes and succeeded, at least with my family, in preventing them from smoking. If I had been a smoker who gave up the impact on the smoking death figures would have not been noticed. It takes a concerted effort by a society to deal with such problems. If I sat at home using no gas, electricity of fuel there would be no measurable impact on global warming. If I can persuade people like you the impact will be much greater. Mike, I guess you forgot. Snell gets a pass because he it too stupid to understand the science of AGW. I'm sure he will remind you... \Paul A Scientist observe failed experiments and change theories, right wingers just move on to the next crazy fantasy. Too many scientists act as salesmen, hyper-ventilating about what could be, even when there is little evidence to support it. That's how they "publish or perish." |
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Russian supply scow lost on way to money pit in orbit
On Wednesday, 6 May 2015 09:36:52 UTC-4, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 5:07:58 PM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote: wsnell01 wrote: The breakeven period is too long, opportunity costs too high, tenants around here tend to steal equipment. Tenants steal solar power panels? What sort of hell-hole do you live in? Tenants have been known to take appliances, light fixtures, plumbing, etc., with them when moving out. It's just a matter of time before solar panels are next on their shopping list. http://www.solarpanelsuk.co.uk/news/...eft-from-roof/ At $50k per installation, I'm not surprised. |
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