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Old April 15th 15, 09:02 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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It is apparent that the more accurate title of this forum should be sci.amateur.stargazers rather than astronomers by virtue of the celestial sphere pursuits rather than the astronomy which researches cause and effect across a wide range of topics.

Ten years ago I cam to the forum with the outlines of a proposal where evolutionary geology is tied to the Earth's rotational dynamics and specifically the creation and destruction of oceanic crust. In 2005, plate tectonics looked roughly like this -

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...oldid=13160277


The principles which apply dual surface rotations to the Earth by using external observations of other planets also apply here in a modified form. The tendency is to consider the Earth a 'rocky' planet however its fairly thin crust disguises a rotating liquid planet hence observations of other rotating celestial objects in a viscous state provide the basis for the uneven rotational gradient between equator and poles common to all objects in various fluids states whether plasma,gas or the visible fluid that pours out of every volcano and crustal boundary -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuQrUwFn6bU


The concentration on the development of crust either side of the Mid Atlantic Ridge which is full of visible clues as to the uneven rotational gradient should have spurred research into this well known astronomical observation but impostors have since got hold of rotation and created a monster instead with no neat link between the planet's spherical deviation and plate tectonics using a common mechanism.

So, ten years on and SAA is even a less favorable environment for the new approach to evolutionary geology taking hold but it is here to stay regardless of whether it is recognized or not. Academics don't know how to handle information comfortably and that shows in the new Wikipedia take on rotation and plate tectonics but it shouldn't prevent individuals from putting the pieces together as accurately as possible and celebrating killing two birds with one stone (plate tectonics/spherical deviation).
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Old April 17th 15, 04:21 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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oriel36 wrote:

It is apparent that the more accurate title of this forum should be sci.amateur.stargazers rather than astronomers by virtue of the celestial sphere pursuits rather than the astronomy which researches cause and effect across a wide range of topics.

Ten years ago I cam to the forum with the outlines of a proposal where evolutionary geology is tied to the Earth's rotational dynamics and specifically the creation and destruction of oceanic crust. In 2005, plate tectonics looked roughly like this -


stll pumping his crap ten years later! Get mental help finally?




http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...oldid=13160277

The principles which apply dual surface rotations to the Earth by using external observations of other planets also apply here in a modified form. The tendency is to consider the Earth a 'rocky' planet however its fairly thin crust disguises a rotating liquid planet hence observations of other rotating celestial objects in a viscous state provide the basis for the uneven rotational gradient between equator and poles common to all objects in various fluids states whether plasma,gas or the visible fluid that pours out of every volcano and crustal boundary -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuQrUwFn6bU

The concentration on the development of crust either side of the Mid Atlantic Ridge which is full of visible clues as to the uneven rotational gradient should have spurred research into this well known astronomical observation but impostors have since got hold of rotation and created a monster instead with no neat link between the planet's spherical deviation and plate tectonics using a common mechanism.

So, ten years on and SAA is even a less favorable environment for the new approach to evolutionary geology taking hold but it is here to stay regardless of whether it is recognized or not. Academics don't know how to handle information comfortably and that shows in the new Wikipedia take on rotation and plate tectonics but it shouldn't prevent individuals from putting the pieces together as accurately as possible and celebrating killing two birds with one stone (plate tectonics/spherical deviation).


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Old April 17th 15, 12:54 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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It would be more difficult to disprove the Earth rapidly rotating fluid interior doesn't possess an uneven rotational gradient between equatorial and polar latitudes than it does to actually work with the common mechanism for plate tectonics and the spherical deviation of the Earth.

A secondary astronomical source to support a rotational mechanism for evolution geology on Earth is the planet Venus which lacks a spherical deviation and plate tectonics but displays more volcanic activity than Earth.

http://volcano.oregonstate.edu/oldro...us/intro..html


Venus,although roughly the same size as the Earth, has only residual daily rotation unlike the Earth's with its 1037.5 miles per hour equatorial speed hence a researcher can extrapolate the geological differences between planets in terms of dynamics.

The idea that the Earth's rotational characteristics influence geological features both large and small has been around as long as the concept of plate tectonics have. The discovery of the scale of the Mid Atlantic Ridge in the 1950's most certainly is the largest clue to the rotational cause behind it but contemporary tools make it even more certain due to the features of the ridge itself.

The planet's maximum equatorial speed via the Lat/Long system is crucial for investigating the motion of the fluid interior but with the refusal to accept the 1037.5 miles per hour value it is no surprise that it could be another 10 years before evolutionary geology and the planet's spherical deviation is approached using a common rotational mechanism.





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Old April 18th 15, 10:34 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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By gaining a foothold in fluid dynamics at a celestial scale by using comparisons with other planets it becomes possible to look at viscosity issues when extrapolating the mechanism behind plate tectonics and separately, the reason why the distance deviates from a perfect sphere between Equatorial and polar diameters.

The symmetrical generation of crustal either side of the Mid Atlantic Ridge and the global nature of the ridge itself draws attention to the fluid dynamics behind the creation of crust along with the magnetic profile contains a great deal of unused information presently -

https://wingmanarrows.files.wordpres...l22..jpg?w=820

How many differential rotation bands or the nature of the uneven rotational gradient between equatorial and polar latitudes is impossible to say presently however this lag/advance mechanism where faster and slower moving bands correlating with latitudinal speeds provide the most productive view for the creation and destruction of ocean crust locally.

Many things to discuss as explorers of this new approach which links the two major geological features of the planet together using a common mechanism..
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Old April 19th 15, 04:19 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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I entirely agree with what Chris.B wrote on Saturday 4th April 2015. We must ALL totally ignore Gerald - for Gerald's sake and for the sake of the wider astronomical community.

In my opinion Gerald is getting worse rather than better and I share Chris.B's concerns about "what might happen next"!

"Should we really be continuing to argue with someone who is so obviously mentally ill? By his own words he has condemned himself to that interpretation, countless times, here and on other forums, over quite a number of years..

What worries me is that this mentally ill person is expressing increasingly aggressive behaviour towards those who argue with his ridiculous fantasies.. How long will it be before this mentally ill person channels his aggression and frustration into a physical attack on an innocent victim? Do we really want to be responsible, as a group, for triggering such an attack?

This mentally ill person cannot, or will not, obtain treatment for his serious behavioural problems. Or perhaps, his symptoms do not readily respond to therapy or medication. I can only suggest, yet again, that nobody here responds to this person. At what point does your own, endless repetition display your own behavioural problems? Think about that before your next auto-response to this person's next ridiculous diatribe.

I'm sure we all used to think we were dealing with yet another, deliberately irritating troll pretending to have very eccentric views. However, the severity of his symptoms have developed in lock step with the negative attention he has received online.

He has repeatedly shown sociopathic responses to his responders and clearly lacks any moral sense of responsibility for his own actions. For example; he has repeatedly published my private emails on this forum in direct reaction to my open criticism of his endlessly repeated fantasies.

The situation has now become very like deliberately baiting a mentally ill person. One who insists on going out into public places to berate bystanders with his infantile fantasies. Nobody can have missed the escalating expressions of aggression towards his critics. Who can say that this clearly unbalanced person will not step over the line into a physical attack on a completely random bystander?

As yourself: Who will your next response to this unbalanced person impress? Certainly not the OP! So why bother? To impress this forum's dwindling readership with your unmatched educational skills and Pavlov auto-pedantry? Really?"
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Old April 23rd 15, 05:59 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Where the Earth's fluid interior meets the crust is an incredible spectacle of nature -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4nJwZDuw4o

Evolutionary geology hasn't really started so I am proud to be able to suggest a large piece of the puzzle in combining plate tectonics with the spherical deviation of the planet using a common rotational mechanism.

What I have seen over the last ten years is that 'convection cells' have been more or less dropped as a mechanism but unfortunately researchers have been unable to get comfortable with the uneven rotational gradient between equatorial and polar latitudes to move things along. It is quite a sight to know that academics probably do want to move but the process is slow, cumbersome and ill-suited for the 21st century.



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Old May 12th 15, 10:29 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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The Nepalese Earthquakes brings to mind the enormous rotational forces that go into shaping the thin surface crust and although the loss of life is tragic,the diversity of structures on the surface are shaped by the relationship between the motion of the fluid and the fractured crust.

The creation of Oceanic crust is central to the narrative as the build-up of pressure created along the Mid Atlantic Ridge as new crust develops affects the destruction of the crust locally at all the other boundaries . One part of the puzzle where crust is created locally and destroyed locally came one day while walking along a beach after a storm and dwelling at a fast moving stream eroding a sand bank and very much like this borrowed video from a Scottish beach-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKrbXPKz-Zw


What makes plate tectonics possible is a differential between the fluid interior moving faster than the surface crust across latitudes by virtue that all celestial objects with viscous compositions rotate in bands with the assumption that the fluid interior of the Earth in contact with the crust acts in a similar way.

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Old May 13th 15, 08:14 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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There is zero point trying to debate any issue with Gerald. He doesn't answer questions, cannot change his views and it seems very unlikely he even reads what other people write!

Please consider joining the Oriel36 boycott!
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Old May 13th 15, 02:13 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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It is quite an experience being among people who probably are aware that the foundations of plate tectonics is based on matching continental profiles yet the extension of this is drowned out by nuisances and their graffiti - an unmoderated forum and that is to be expected but what is dismaying is the lack of reasoning which takes the original hypothesis in a new direction by looking at the crustal profile in clearer detail.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._ridge_map.png

The shape of the Ridge and subsequently the shape of the Eastern seaboard of the United States,the West coast of Africa and the East coast of South America contain the clues to the rotational mechanism driving crustal formation at the Ridge and the various collisions elsewhere resulting from the pressure. Essentially the continental Eastern Americas and Western Europe/Africa retain their profile where everywhere else is buckling ,creating new geological formations and so on.

The elegant 'S' shape of the Ridge which splits at the Equator is perhaps a worthy addition to evolutionary geology in terms of the fluid mechanism in contact with and creating the surface crust. I don't rely on academics even though they supply this wonderful data and the tools which make a stab at explanation possible including looking out at celestial objects with exposed fluid compositions and the differential rotation visible in these objects.
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Old May 13th 15, 05:12 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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There is no point trying to debate any issue with Gerald. He doesn't answer questions, cannot change his views and it seems very unlikely he even reads what other people write!

Please urgently consider joining the Oriel36 boycott!
 




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