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Old May 25th 15, 09:59 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Lord Vath
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Default Semiliquid battery competitive with both Li-ion batteries and supercapacitors

On Mon, 25 May 2015 22:14:34 +0200, Morten Reistad
wrote this crap:

In article ,
Chris.B wrote:
On Sunday, 24 May 2015 09:06:38 UTC+2, Mike Collins wrote:

Things aren't always what they seem. When British Railways abolished steam
engines the monitoring station at what is now Salford University measured a
big increase in atmospheric sulphur dioxide because it was no longer being
absorbed by the activated charcoal in the smoke from the railway engines.


That's interesting!
I'm a fan of steam but must allow that they do have a bad image where dirt is concerned.
Not to mention the damage to health caused by mining the coal.
Do the old covered stations [and the tunnels of course] still accumulate thick layers of soot?


Steam propulsion is banned throughout Scandinavia on electrified rail lines;
they can (barely, but still) measure the increase in leakege current increase
from a single steam train passing. This is from soot buildup on the isolators.

Sweden has one of the longest semi-abandoned but still in service tracks on
Inlandsbanan, where steam enthusiasts run special trains during the summer.
1600 km long, max speed 30 km/h in sections.


30 kmh? Is that a typo? I can bike faster.


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Old May 25th 15, 11:20 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris L Peterson
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Default Semiliquid battery competitive with both Li-ion batteries and supercapacitors

On Mon, 25 May 2015 16:59:05 -0400, Lord Vath
wrote:

Sweden has one of the longest semi-abandoned but still in service tracks on
Inlandsbanan, where steam enthusiasts run special trains during the summer.
1600 km long, max speed 30 km/h in sections.


30 kmh? Is that a typo? I can bike faster.


For 1600 km?
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Old May 26th 15, 04:19 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Paul Schlyter[_3_]
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Default Semiliquid battery competitive with both Li-ion batteries and supercapacitors

On Mon, 25 May 2015 22:14:34 +0200, Morten Reistad
wrote:
Steam propulsion is banned throughout Scandinavia on electrified

rail lines;
they can (barely, but still) measure the increase in leakege

current increase
from a single steam train passing. This is from soot buildup on the

isolators.

Steam propulsion isn't banned on all electrified rain lines in
Scandinavia. Occasionally there are still steam engines carrying
vintage trains from Stockholm C to places like Nynäshamn, Södertälje,
or all around Lake Mälaren, on electrified rail lines. A few such
tour are expected within the next month.
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Old May 26th 15, 04:26 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Paul Schlyter[_3_]
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Default Semiliquid battery competitive with both Li-ion batteries and supercapacitors

On Mon, 25 May 2015 16:20:19 -0600, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Mon, 25 May 2015 16:59:05 -0400, Lord Vath
wrote:



Sweden has one of the longest semi-abandoned but still in service

tracks on
Inlandsbanan, where steam enthusiasts run special trains during

the summer.
1600 km long, max speed 30 km/h in sections.


30 kmh? Is that a typo? I can bike faster.



For 1600 km?


Not everywhere but in sections. 70 km/h is a more common speed though
on Inlandsbanan, and the most common passenger trains there are
diesel motorcoaches. Perhaps the 30 km/h apply to the steam engines
only due to their greater weight?
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Old May 27th 15, 10:32 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Morten Reistad
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Default Semiliquid battery competitive with both Li-ion batteries and supercapacitors

In article ,
Lord Vath wrote:
On Mon, 25 May 2015 22:14:34 +0200, Morten Reistad
wrote this crap:

In article ,
Chris.B wrote:
On Sunday, 24 May 2015 09:06:38 UTC+2, Mike Collins wrote:

Things aren't always what they seem. When British Railways abolished steam
engines the monitoring station at what is now Salford University measured a
big increase in atmospheric sulphur dioxide because it was no longer being
absorbed by the activated charcoal in the smoke from the railway engines.

That's interesting!
I'm a fan of steam but must allow that they do have a bad image where dirt is concerned.
Not to mention the damage to health caused by mining the coal.
Do the old covered stations [and the tunnels of course] still accumulate thick layers of soot?


Steam propulsion is banned throughout Scandinavia on electrified rail lines;
they can (barely, but still) measure the increase in leakege current increase
from a single steam train passing. This is from soot buildup on the isolators.

Sweden has one of the longest semi-abandoned but still in service tracks on
Inlandsbanan, where steam enthusiasts run special trains during the summer.
1600 km long, max speed 30 km/h in sections.


30 kmh? Is that a typo? I can bike faster.


They only keep this railroad operational to service the fiber and high voltage
lines running alongside. The minmum service level equals a max speed of
30 km/h. Which is fine if you use it 5 times a year to bring in equipment to
some other bits of infrastructure. It is only around 5% of the line that
is that decrepit.

So there is a lot of track time for museum trains.

-- mrr

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Old May 27th 15, 10:34 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Morten Reistad
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Default Semiliquid battery competitive with both Li-ion batteries and supercapacitors

In article ,
Paul Schlyter wrote:
On Mon, 25 May 2015 22:14:34 +0200, Morten Reistad
wrote:
Steam propulsion is banned throughout Scandinavia on electrified

rail lines;
they can (barely, but still) measure the increase in leakege

current increase
from a single steam train passing. This is from soot buildup on the

isolators.

Steam propulsion isn't banned on all electrified rain lines in
Scandinavia. Occasionally there are still steam engines carrying
vintage trains from Stockholm C to places like Nynäshamn, Södertälje,
or all around Lake Mälaren, on electrified rail lines. A few such
tour are expected within the next month.


I would expect these to use some very clean coal, though.

-- mrr


 




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