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Old April 6th 10, 01:31 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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I was watching Mars: making a new earth. They talk about adding water to
the acidic soil and making C02, turning the sky blue, filling basins
with ice melt forming lakes and then plant life after 100 years.
Isn't that stupid. Isn't the reason the atmosphere is gone in the first
place is that no magnetic field protects solar flares from blowing away
the atmosphere? If that's the case it would just blow away again.
Waste of time.


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Old April 6th 10, 02:24 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:31:24 -0400, LSMFT wrote:

I was watching Mars: making a new earth. They talk about adding water to
the acidic soil and making C02, turning the sky blue, filling basins
with ice melt forming lakes and then plant life after 100 years. Isn't
that stupid. Isn't the reason the atmosphere is gone in the first place
is that no magnetic field protects solar flares from blowing away the
atmosphere? If that's the case it would just blow away again. Waste of
time.


It might, over a few hundred million years, be blown away. However, even
if it lasts for a few thousand years, that's plenty of time for the
intended purpose.

Given 2000 years, Martians will find a more lasting solution.
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Old April 6th 10, 05:18 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Apr 5, 5:31*pm, LSMFT wrote:
I was watching Mars: making a new earth. They talk about adding water to
the acidic soil and making C02, turning the sky blue, filling basins
with ice melt forming lakes and then plant life after 100 years.
Isn't that stupid. Isn't the reason the atmosphere is gone in the first
place is that no magnetic field protects solar flares from blowing away
the atmosphere? If that's the case it would just blow away again.
Waste of time.

--
LSMFT

I'm trying to think but nothing happens.........


True, it'll just blow away again. What Mars needs is another big-ass
moon in order to kick it's geothermal potential up a couple of
notches, plus give it some additional magnetic protective field.

~ BG
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Old April 6th 10, 05:21 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Apr 5, 6:24*pm, Marvin the Martian wrote:
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:31:24 -0400, LSMFT wrote:
I was watching Mars: making a new earth. They talk about adding water to
the acidic soil and making C02, turning the sky blue, filling basins
with ice melt forming lakes and then plant life after 100 years. Isn't
that stupid. Isn't the reason the atmosphere is gone in the first place
is that no magnetic field protects solar flares from blowing away the
atmosphere? If that's the case it would just blow away again. Waste of
time.


It might, over a few hundred million years, be blown away. However, even
if it lasts for a few thousand years, that's plenty of time for the
intended purpose.

Given 2000 years, Martians will find a more lasting solution.


That's perhaps 100 trillion dollars well spent, as well as several
decades blown in setting it up. The good news, in order to get this
terraforming accomplished will pretty much consume all of Earth's best
technology and energy resources.

~ BG
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Old April 6th 10, 09:49 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On 4/5/2010 4:31 PM, LSMFT wrote:
I was watching Mars


Be careful about doing that; a guy named John Carter was doing that a
long time back and then some really heavy **** went down. ;-)

Pat

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Old April 8th 10, 01:41 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On 6/04/2010 10:31 AM, LSMFT wrote:
I was watching Mars: making a new earth. They talk about adding water to
the acidic soil and making C02, turning the sky blue, filling basins
with ice melt forming lakes and then plant life after 100 years.
Isn't that stupid. Isn't the reason the atmosphere is gone in the first
place is that no magnetic field protects solar flares from blowing away
the atmosphere? If that's the case it would just blow away again.
Waste of time.



What's the point anyway? Even if the Solar System had another planet
identitical to Earth in every respect except the lack of humans, there
would be little served by populating it. It's not as if Earth can afford
to ship out a significant part of its excess population.

Sylvia.
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Old April 8th 10, 04:06 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Apr 7, 8:41�pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 6/04/2010 10:31 AM, LSMFT wrote:

I was watching Mars: making a new earth. They talk about adding water to
the acidic soil and making C02, turning the sky blue, filling basins
with ice melt forming lakes and then plant life after 100 years.
Isn't that stupid. Isn't the reason the atmosphere is gone in the first
place is that no magnetic field protects solar flares from blowing away
the atmosphere? If that's the case it would just blow away again.
Waste of time.


What's the point anyway? Even if the Solar System had another planet
identitical to Earth in every respect except the lack of humans, there
would be little served by populating it. It's not as if Earth can afford
to ship out a significant part of its excess population.

Sylvia.


oh thats easy and would save big bucks.

ship out the criminals to mars, the ideal jail, without parole. escape
impossible.

currently the US is incarating or contrlled release over 13% of its
population.

Ship most of those on a ONE WAY trip to mars, solving lots of troubles
here
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Old April 8th 10, 03:46 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Sylvia Else
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On 8/04/2010 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Apr 7, 8:41�pm, Sylvia wrote:
On 6/04/2010 10:31 AM, LSMFT wrote:

I was watching Mars: making a new earth. They talk about adding water to
the acidic soil and making C02, turning the sky blue, filling basins
with ice melt forming lakes and then plant life after 100 years.
Isn't that stupid. Isn't the reason the atmosphere is gone in the first
place is that no magnetic field protects solar flares from blowing away
the atmosphere? If that's the case it would just blow away again.
Waste of time.


What's the point anyway? Even if the Solar System had another planet
identitical to Earth in every respect except the lack of humans, there
would be little served by populating it. It's not as if Earth can afford
to ship out a significant part of its excess population.

Sylvia.


oh thats easy and would save big bucks.

ship out the criminals to mars, the ideal jail, without parole. escape
impossible.

currently the US is incarating or contrlled release over 13% of its
population.

Ship most of those on a ONE WAY trip to mars, solving lots of troubles
here


Without a vast improvement in technology, it will cost hugely more to
ship a crim to Mars than to incarcerate them for their entire life on Earth.

Sylvia.
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Old April 8th 10, 03:52 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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In article ,
wrote:
On Apr 7, 8:41�pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 6/04/2010 10:31 AM, LSMFT wrote:

I was watching Mars: making a new earth. They talk about adding water to
the acidic soil and making C02, turning the sky blue, filling basins
with ice melt forming lakes and then plant life after 100 years.
Isn't that stupid. Isn't the reason the atmosphere is gone in the first
place is that no magnetic field protects solar flares from blowing away
the atmosphere? If that's the case it would just blow away again.
Waste of time.


What's the point anyway? Even if the Solar System had another planet
identitical to Earth in every respect except the lack of humans, there
would be little served by populating it. It's not as if Earth can afford
to ship out a significant part of its excess population.

Sylvia.


oh thats easy and would save big bucks.

ship out the criminals to mars, the ideal jail, without parole. escape
impossible.

currently the US is incarating or contrlled release over 13% of its
population.

Ship most of those on a ONE WAY trip to mars, solving lots of troubles
here


Those people serve valuable economic and political purposes: cheap labour
and they can be used to inflate head counts in rural towns. If all of
America's prisoners were shipped out, the US would just have to arrest
another 12% of the population.

In fact, it's not clear to me why nobody has suggested a purely prison-
based recovery program for the US economy.
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