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Old January 16th 12, 04:02 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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Fred is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is only stupid."


Most sane people can easily discredit Fred
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Old January 16th 12, 06:51 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Jan 15, 5:58*pm, bob haller wrote:
Actually, Fred's asshole is certainly way bigger than most. *Must be
from over-use by those brown-nosed clowns he always hangs with.


Another Guthball heard from. *Isn't it interesting how vandalizing
nymskulls, Bobberts, and Guthballs all surge together?


you are a super easy target to be discredited


Fred and his Sandia-NL plus Qinetiq-NA friends are a pathetic joke,
though kind of a spendy joke.

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Old January 18th 12, 09:40 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Jan 16, 6:30*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 15, 5:58*pm, bob haller wrote:
Actually, Fred's asshole is certainly way bigger than most. *Must be
from over-use by those brown-nosed clowns he always hangs with.


Another Guthball heard from. *Isn't it interesting how vandalizing
nymskulls, Bobberts, and Guthballs all surge together?


you are a super easy target to be discredited


Fred and his Sandia-NL plus Qinetiq-NA friends are a pathetic joke,
though kind of a spendy joke.


No need for anyone to 'discredit' the lot of you. *Every time you post
some bit of lunacy, like the preceding, you are 'self-discrediting'.

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine


And of course your Sandia-NL and Qinetiq-NA are never wrong about
anything.

At least I got it, and having never doubted, except when bad stuff
happens it seems your kind are never far away, much less uninvolved.

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Old January 18th 12, 10:01 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Jan 13, 6:35*am, bob haller wrote:
On Jan 13, 2:09*am, |"









wrote:
On Jan 12, 3:14*pm, Dan wrote:


On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 13:24:23 -0800 (PST), bob haller wrote:
Over 90% of Japan's reactors to be offline


This week another nuclear reactor in Japan will be shut down for
regular inspections. With this addition to the list, more than 90
percent of the reactors in the country will be out of service.


Cite? None?


*STFU* bob


Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


Time and choice will determine what comes.
It is quite mess both with the plants lost, land
contaminated, and people exposed. There are
aspects of cover up in the standard narrative.
Obsolete reactors in an earthquake zone and
a tsumami zone as well, not good. And coast
of the USA has its reactors. I can't speak to their
design. Can you?


Shortly after japans disaster the NRC said the US has the same
problems with its plants.

there are some reports the plants were damaged by the earthquake badly
and already lost before the wave hit


No doubt that your Big Energy owned government of Japan has no
intentions of ever being the least bit honest about anything related
to this fiasco.

How many in Japan get to starve to death or having to commit suicide
each and every day because of the badly inflated cost of everything
that goes along with their top to bottom corruption?

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Old January 19th 12, 03:48 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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"Ordinarily Fred is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."

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Old January 19th 12, 03:49 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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currently japan is doing ok with almost no nuke power plants in
operation

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Old January 19th 12, 04:48 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Jan 19, 10:32*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
currently japan is doing ok with almost no nuke power plants in
operation


Not so much, unless you consider 17% price increases and industrial
slowdowns to be "doing ok".

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
*truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Thomas Jefferson


power price must go up to pay the costs of the meltdowns.

lets see whats now estimated to be a 50 year or longer clean up,
replace totally the fukhisma plant generating capacity, health issues,
both mental and physical for the residents.. relocation for a
generation or more a bunch of towns. compensate farmers for now
hazardous food, heck even gravel is radioactive, from quarries that
went ino new buildings that cant be lived in.

just think of what a mess like this would be like in new york, or
anywhere else.

most nuke plants in japan will have to be upgraded or decomisioned.
most near faults or sunmami areas......

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Old January 19th 12, 08:59 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Jan 19, 6:49*am, bob haller wrote:
currently japan is doing ok with almost no nuke power plants in
operation


With much higher energy rates per kwhr, it's easy to cut back (way
back), plus having to charge more for just about everything else.

Oil, Coal and LNG are only problematic if you happen to work in those
industries or live and work elsewhere downwind, and LNG mishaps have
only vaporized a few cities in the past.

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Old January 19th 12, 09:10 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Jan 19, 7:48*am, bob haller wrote:
On Jan 19, 10:32*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:

bob haller wrote:
currently japan is doing ok with almost no nuke power plants in
operation


Not so much, unless you consider 17% price increases and industrial
slowdowns to be "doing ok".


--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
*truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Thomas Jefferson


power price must go up to pay the costs of the meltdowns.

lets see whats now estimated to be a 50 year or longer clean up,
replace totally the fukhisma plant generating capacity, health issues,
both mental and physical for the residents.. relocation for a
generation or more a bunch of towns. compensate farmers for now
hazardous food, heck even gravel is radioactive, from quarries that
went ino new buildings that cant be lived in.

just think of what a mess like this would be like in new york, or
anywhere else.

most nuke plants in japan will have to be upgraded or decomisioned.
most near faults or sunmami areas......

Using thorium fuel and those AP-1000 kinds of simpler reactors that
are more robust and have 90% less to go wrong with them, plus
otherwise as near failsafe as humanly possible, would probably make
these new and improved clean energy providers almost too cheap to
meter (though also unable to provide plutonium and a few other nasty
elements that governments want us to keep paying for).

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Old January 19th 12, 09:11 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Jan 19, 11:28*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Jan 19, 10:32*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
currently japan is doing ok with almost no nuke power plants in
operation


Not so much, unless you consider 17% price increases and industrial
slowdowns to be "doing ok".


power price must go up to pay the costs of the meltdowns.


That's a penny or two, not 17%.



lets see whats now estimated to be a 50 year or longer clean up,
replace totally the fukhisma plant generating capacity, health issues,
both mental and physical for the residents.. relocation for a
generation or more a bunch of towns. compensate farmers for now
hazardous food, heck even gravel is radioactive, from quarries that
went ino new buildings that cant be lived in.


Cite for all that relocation, gravel, etc? *Yeah, I thought not.

Oh, and why replace the generating capacity if they're "doing ok", as
you aver?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn


Possibly contaminated stone used at work sites

Fukushima Prefecture says crushed stone possibly contaminated with
radioactive substances due to the nuclear accident was used at 10
public works construction sites. Relatively high levels of
radioactivity have been detected at one of the sites.

Japan's government announced this month that high levels of
radioactive substances were detected at a new apartment building
constructed in the prefecture using concrete made from the stone. The
stone was from a quarry in Namie Town, which was designated as an
evacuation zone following the accident.

Authorities have been investigating stone distribution routes.

Fukushima officials said on Thursday that stone from the quarry was
also used in 10 public works projects in the prefecture, including
riverbank reinforcement and road repair.

The officials say radioactivity levels up to 1.3 microsieverts per
hour were detected at a city riverbank.

Thursday, January
 




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